sometimes you just gotta lay it down.

[Abbaddabba 0]

Didn't notice this earlier...

I sort of get what you are saying. But one thing I forgot to mention is that BB looked very confident when he check-raised me.

Hell, i'd be pretty damn confident too if i was check/raising a guy who would fold anything short of the nuts.

[Breaking Liberty 0]

Didn't notice this earlier...

I sort of get what you are saying. But one thing I forgot to mention is that BB looked very confident when he check-raised me.

Hell, i'd be pretty damn confident too if i was check/raising a guy who would fold anything short of the nuts.

Ja Ja

[Breaking Liberty 0]

We should print this post out and staple it to the OP's f*cking forehead.

[Actuary 3]

my guess would be alicia rickter.

no.

Is it Kris Benson's wife?

no.and bring back the RedNeck avitar, Whoomprat!

[rog 0]

It doesn’t matter what you -think- he has. 11-1 with TOP set,Really ends the discussion.

It's not 11:1. It's 16.5:1 by my count. The only way you fold this is if villain actually IS playing his cards face up. There's over 300 bucks in this pot. You dont have to be right very often for a call to be good. If this topic is "for real" it's one of the stupidest things I've read. If it's a jopke, can we get to the punchline? If it's not funny, I want my 5 minutes back.

[ssarchangel 0]

Good laydown, i'm not going to agree with everyone in saying that it was a terrible laydown, it was a good laydown if you knew that he had you beat 11 times in twelve, you held the 4th nut right, 3 possible straights beat you, thats 1/4? wait look see the mistake, 2nd he showed strength the entire way through, was he super agressive, who with a straight draw, or a flush draw check raises on the the turn, he bet out the flop - he has strength he check raises the turn, more strength, he check raises the river still strength, no part of his actions showed that he had morestrength at the end of the hand than the beginning from pure analysis of that i don't think you could put him on a hand that is better than yours, think of all the hands he could have played the exact same way and you'll conclude that very few times he'll have a straight

[Swift_Psycho 1]

Good laydown, i'm not going to agree with everyone in saying that it was a terrible laydown, it was a good laydown if you knew that he had you beat 11 times in twelve, you held the 4th nut right, 3 possible straights beat you, thats 1/4? wait look see the mistake, 2nd he showed strength the entire way through, was he super agressive, who with a straight draw, or a flush draw check raises on the the turn, he bet out the flop - he has strength he check raises the turn, more strength, he check raises the river still strength, no part of his actions showed that he had morestrength at the end of the hand than the beginning from pure analysis of that i don't think you could put him on a hand that is better than yours, think of all the hands he could have played the exact same way and you'll conclude that very few times he'll have a straight

*blinks rapidly*What?

[guinevar 0]

turn pro, make millions

This made me chuckle, because it is basically the only thing you can tell people who make stupid mistakes then, to their folly, defend them based on results.I also like how the op suggested that his fold was in line with the fundamental theory, after he raised the river. The only way this could be in line is if your opponent was showing you the cards that made the straight before you mucked threw your cards into the muck.OP, don't read Caro's Book of Tells, it will give you lots of reasons to call when you have lost. Bad players always use that book to justify making dumb mistakes.

[Breaking Liberty 0]

Good laydown, i'm not going to agree with everyone in saying that it was a terrible laydown, it was a good laydown if you knew that he had you beat 11 times in twelve, you held the 4th nut right, 3 possible straights beat you, thats 1/4? wait look see the mistake, 2nd he showed strength the entire way through, was he super agressive, who with a straight draw, or a flush draw check raises on the the turn, he bet out the flop - he has strength he check raises the turn, more strength, he check raises the river still strength, no part of his actions showed that he had morestrength at the end of the hand than the beginning from pure analysis of that i don't think you could put him on a hand that is better than yours, think of all the hands he could have played the exact same way and you'll conclude that very few times he'll have a straight

*blinks rapidly*What?

[ICrushHomeGames 0]

OK so I am playing at a pretty good Party Poker 10/20 table, when I am dealt the rockets (A:diamond: A:club:) UTG. I bring it in for a raise, and folded to MP2 who calls, BB calls.The flop comes A:heart: 10 9:club:, and BB bets out. I have the nuts, so I raise to charge anyone who wants to draw, MP2 cold calls, and BB calls.The turn is the 2:spade:, a pretty good card for my hand. BB checks, I bet, MP2 calls again, and BB check-raises me. I still have the nuts so I 3-bet it, MP2 folds, and BB calls.The river is the 8:diamond:. When I see the card I get a sinking feeling becuase I no longer have the nuts. BB checks, I bet, and BB check-raises me. I fold to save the $20, disgusted by what looks like a horrible suckout.I'm not going to post results yet, but I would appreciate any comments on my play. Thanks.

Re-raise the river. Unless he has QJ, J7, or 76 you have him. I don't think he would have called your pre-flop raise with J7 or 76, and I don't think he would have check-raised the turn with and up and down straight draw (or even straight flush draw) in a three-way pot. Especially not someone playing live 10/20.I strongly advise you to drop down to $2/$4 until your play improves.Am I reading this right?

[TheCinciKid 0]

my guess would be alicia rickter.

no.

Is it Kris Benson's wife?

no.and bring back the RedNeck avitar, Whoomprat!

I'm pretty sure it's actually Fran Drescher. One of the best pics I've ever seen of her if it is. Her looks aren't bad, but boy is her voice annoying.

[Actuary 3]

my guess would be alicia rickter.

no.

Is it Kris Benson's wife?

no.and bring back the RedNeck avitar, Whoomprat!

I'm pretty sure it's actually Fran Drescher. One of the best pics I've ever seen of her if it is. Her looks aren't bad, but boy is her voice annoying.

hilarious!NO!This pic is a good pic of the chick.Much "classier" than mostShe is quite petite.

[DCWildcat 0]

If you could some up everything wrong with fish in one post, this would be it.

[CobaltBlue 662]

hilarious!NO!This pic is a good pic of the chick.Much "classier" than mostShe is quite petite.

Methinks that Actuary doest allude to porn.

[Actuary 3]

:shock: :shock: :naughty: :angel: :oops:

[mused01 0]

you said OK guys, you have all told me "this is a horrible laydown." Well how about this: I mucked my aces face up, and BB, <b>looking very surprised showed me QJ.</b> I smiled and said "yeah I knew you had it, nice play fish."how does one look suprised online...?

[the red bull 0]

you said  OK guys, you have all told me "this is a horrible laydown." Well how about this: I mucked my aces face up, and BB, <b>looking very surprised showed me QJ.</b> I smiled and said "yeah I knew you had it, nice play fish."how does one look suprised online...?

OK guys, I made a few mistakes - the table wasn't on Party Poker.  I was going to post a different hand and then changed my mind.  It took place at the local casino.

[the red bull 0]

You know what I think is funny tho, that someone posted a story about Barry Greenstein making a fold with his KK full house to a AK full house in some tourney against the poster.And I dont think that many people were yelling about how Barry Greenstein is a major fish.

Refresh my memory, was that a limit tourney (I honestly don't remember)? If it was, I'll start flaming him right now because it does seem like that would be a terrible laydown. Unless there were better clues to give away what hand his opponent had.The way this hand went down, the OP folding top set is nothing short of ridiculous.

the Greenstein hand was similiar,in which he laid down to a single bet on the river after it was capped on the flop and turn.(The board read K7xAA)If you want to search it, I think it was called "Check out this Greenstein laydown...",but I'm not very good with the search engine so I'm not that sure.

[allinbluff35 0]

I'd SIIAAP

[LuckyMcCatcher 0]

I personally think this a joke post, but if you read people well enough to big bets on the river when you are beat then you are on your way to millions. No joke. Think of all the payoffs I have to make because I cant read people right 95% of the time.

[whoomprat 0]

hilarious!NO!This pic is a good pic of the chick.Much "classier" than mostShe is quite petite.

Methinks that Actuary doest allude to porn.

If she's softcore, I've never seen her.Better laydown than the OP.

[wilkinru 0]

my guess would be alicia rickter.

no.

Is it Kris Benson's wife?

no.and bring back the RedNeck avitar, Whoomprat!

I'm pretty sure it's actually Fran Drescher. One of the best pics I've ever seen of her if it is. Her looks aren't bad, but boy is her voice annoying.

hilarious!NO!This pic is a good pic of the chick.Much "classier" than mostShe is quite petite.

Ok, so who is she? Let me ask you this, is she on the babefocus list? your not even giving out hints.

[KTW 0]

*blinks rapidly*What?

Blinks and shakes head aswell, but I think the OP tried to his luck at humor and missed.

[mobius481 0]

Look at it this way. If you're 17:1 pot odds then you have to be almost 95% sure that the guys has you beat to lay it down. I don't think I've ever been 95% sure of someone having one of 3 hands in my life. Maybe you were though, and maybe it was a good laydown but I couldn't have done it.