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Tried to hop on FT to play a few hands tonight, found I couldn't get on. Subsequently discovered this whole sad business.
If your location isChristchurch, New ZealandYou should be able to play after installing the latest update.
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If your location isChristchurch, New ZealandYou should be able to play after installing the latest update.
Yeah except it pops up and says "cannot download the update at this time, try again later" has done all day.edit: @GOCUBSGO - my point was that the playing of online poker has not been found to be illegal in the courts, and may never be under current laws. The main thing they are trying to ping them for is to do with the banking side. As far as the banking goes its to do with money transfers with US banks, which I do have nothing to do with.
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Yeah except it pops up and says "cannot download the update at this time, try again later" has done all day.edit: @GOCUBSGO - my point was that the playing of online poker has not been found to be illegal in the courts, and may never be under current laws. The main thing they are trying to ping them for is to do with the banking side. As far as the banking goes its to do with money transfers with US banks, which I do have nothing to do with.
fulltiltpoker.co.ukget it there.
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Just received an e-mail from Stars with the Fedex tracking number for my cheque which means I should get it tomorrow morning. I've usually received cheques on Tuesday morning after requesting them Sunday night.
Fedex just delivered my cheque from Poker Stars. It's the same Canadian cheque processor that they've been using for years and it's in $CDN.
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Some of the best and costliest lawyers in the US will be representing the poker sites.http://amlawdaily.typepad.com/amlawdaily/2...ndictments.html
I wonder if this means they plan on actually coming to US soil to fight the charges then. Does anyone actually win against the DOJ in court?
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Also President Obama is having a "townhall" (lol) meeting via facebook on the 20th, and facebook is going to select some of the most popular questions asked to Mr. Obama I believe. http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=122119071195720

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The amount of times "sick" has been used in this thread, "sick brag", "sick sweat" and shit makes this thread intolerable. This isn't a surfing forum and it isn't the 1980's.
^^^Sick ****
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I wonder if this means they plan on actually coming to US soil to fight the charges then. Does anyone actually win against the DOJ in court?
The Southern NY DOJ office has a 92% win rate in trial cases.
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The amount of times "sick" has been used in this thread, "sick brag", "sick sweat" and shit makes this thread intolerable. This isn't a surfing forum and it isn't the 1980's.
I feel the same about the word epic. Bring back rad.
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Sorry about the rubbing it in part. Just want non-Americans to know about how Stars is handling withdrawals for them.
So if I transfer all my Stars money to you, for a small fee.....
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http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/t...poker-crackdownAccording to Rep. Barney Frank (Mass.), the senior Democrat on the House Financial Services Committee ... "What an incredible waste of resources," Frank said in an interview with The Hill regarding last Friday's crackdown, which saw the FBI and Justice Department shut down the three largest online poker sites in what appears to be the largest sting to date on illegal online gambling. Frank mocked the seizures as the administration "protecting the public from the scourge of inside straights," and lamented that the Justice Department is more focused on prosecuting online poker sites than those responsible for the mortgage crisis and financial meltdown."Go after the people responsible for empty houses, not full houses," Frank added. "I'm not saying violate the law, but to give this priority in law enforcement over some other things I think is a terrible idea and I think the administration is wrong on this."
As common sense and that sense of outrage converge ... the only people that can light a fire under the DOJ are doing just that. Write your congressmen people.By the way, the speech-writer is a genius "Go after the people responsible for empty houses, not full houses" ... solid gold! :club:
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http://nakedapeclients.wordpress.com/2011/...er-indictments/Antigua Reacts to US Poker Indictments19/04/2011 by nakedapeclients For Interviews with Mark Mendel, lead counsel in the successful WTO case between Antigua and the US regarding provision of online gambling services, please contact: Jools Moore – +44 (0)771 773 4606 April 19, 2011, ST. JOHN’S, ANTIGUA AND BARBUDA: Reacting to last week’s indictments of a number of individuals allegedly behind prominent internet poker operators, the Antiguan Minister for Finance and the Economy, the Honourable Harold Lovell, expressed his disappointment in the latest effort by the American authorities to shut off competition in remote gaming in violation of International law. “I am concerned,” stated the Minister, “that at this point in time United States authorities continue to prosecute non-domestic suppliers of remote gaming services in clear contravention of International law. I am not aware of any other situation where a member of the World Trade Organisation has subjected persons to criminal prosecution under circumstances where the WTO has expressly ruled that to do so is in breach of an International treaty.” Antigua’s legal counsel in the WTO matter, Mark Mendel, had a similar reaction. “The WTO ruled that these kinds of laws criminalizing the provision of remote gaming services are contrary to the obligations of the United States under the WTO agreements. The United States, being a very heavy user of the WTO rules to its own benefit, simply cannot continue to prosecute persons for engaging in legitimate International commerce,” said Mr Mendel. Observing recent initiatives to authorise remote gaming in various American states and the proliferation of state-sanctioned gambling in America generally, Mr Mendel further noted, “What the United States has attempted to cloak as a moral issue is now clearly nothing but economic protectionism at its worst. Rather than engaging with Antigua and the world gaming community to reach a reasonable accommodation on this relatively new but now globalised form of economic commerce, the United States has instead determined to protect its domestic gaming interests regardless of International legal obligations. This is very hard to reconcile not only with its pronouncements regarding the imperative of other countries to strictly observe their WTO trade obligations but also with stated official United States government policy of adherence to the rule of law.” Having won a hard-fought dispute at the WTO against the United States some years ago over laws criminalizing the provision of remote gaming services to American consumers, Antigua has spent considerable time and effort trying to reach a compromise with American authorities that would recognise the legitimacy conferred by the WTO judgement with respect to Antiguan remote gaming services, while addressing any material concerns United States authorities might have with respect to the provision of these services from abroad. Last weeks’ indictments and other recent developments would seem to indicate that the United States is still unwilling or unable to tackle the issue of offshore remote gaming services in a mature and legally compliant fashion. In light of these developments, Minister Lovell advised, “At this time we are examining all of the options we have against the United States as a result of the WTO decision. We are confident that the WTO rulings have significant strength and we are now looking into ways to capitalise on that in order to achieve our objectives.” In conclusion, legal advisor Mark Mendel stated, “Given the time that has been spent by the Antiguan government on sincere attempts to negotiate a reasonable settlement with the United States, and the very meagre results that have come of those discussions, it might be time for Antigua to go back to the WTO and compel American compliance with the rulings that this very small country fought so hard for and deserves to see implemented.” For further information, contact: Jools Moore jools@joolsmoore.com +44 (0)771 773 4606
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