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[KingJames 11]

The old 5-way c/r bottom pair bdfd value raise

wikipedia tho

Semi-bluffIn games with multiple betting rounds, to bluff on one round with an inferior or drawing hand that might improve in a later round is called a semi-bluff. A player making a semi-bluff can win the pot two different ways: by all opponents folding immediately or by catching a card to improve the player's hand. In some cases a player may be on a draw but with odds strong enough that he is favored to win the hand. In this case his bet is not classified as a semi-bluff even though his bet may force opponents to fold hands with better current strength.For example, a player in a stud poker game with four spade-suited cards showing (but none among their downcards) on the penultimate round might raise, hoping that his opponents believe he already has a flush. If his bluff fails and he is called, he still might be dealt a spade on the final card and win the showdown (or he might be dealt another non-spade and try his bluff again, in which case it is a pure bluff on the final round rather than a semi-bluff).

[trystero 0]

might book a winning session. maybe.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comSB ($53.21)BB ($8.63)Hero (UTG) ($25)MP ($50.68)CO ($68.52)Button ($27.03)Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8 , 8 Hero bets $0.75, MP calls $0.75, 3 folds, BB calls $0.50Flop: ($2.35) J , 8 , 9 (3 players)BB checks, Hero bets $1.60, MP raises to $7.15, 1 fold, Hero raises to $24.25 (All-In), MP calls $17.10Turn: ($50.85) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)River: ($50.85) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)Total pot: $50.85 | Rake: $2.54Results:Hero had 8 , 8 (three of a kind, eights).MP had 8 , J (two pair, Jacks and eights).Outcome: Hero won $48.31

[kepper 0]

1st hand of HU. Somewhere a guy is swearing that stars is rigged. Converting hands till the cows come homePokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 2 playersButton: $25.00 (Hero)BB: $25.00 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is Button with (2 players)Hero raises to $0.50, BB raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $3, BB raises to $5.25, Hero raises to $25 and is all-in, BB calls $19.75 and is all-inFlop: ($50.75) (2 players)Turn: ($50.75) (2 players)River: ($50.75) (2 players)Hero showed , and won ($49.50) with a pair of AcesBB showed , and lost with a pair of KingsHero won $49.50(Rake: $0.50)

[BellaireDrew 2]

Definition of CiB?I don't know about the raise to $8. We are only increasing the pot by 1/4. If we think he's strong enough to call, why not put more money in the pot? If we think he's too weak, then why raise at all? How many times is he gonna 3-bet there anyway? Seems pretty weird, without some sort of read.

CiB= Click it back, ie min-raiseAnd yeah... drew is a huge button-clicking donk so the initial raise is obv trrblIn all seriousness, without being in the match we don't know. HU is weird. Also villains 55bb starting stack doesn't make us need to build a pot... we're never folding and there are no flush draws... again it's all about getting a little more money in the pot and letting the villain do weird shit

The reason I played the hand the way I did was because of my read on the player and game flow. Dude was a total spazz that almost never folded unless I raised really big, he also like to hit the raise/bet btn A LOT!! His line and bet sizing in 3 bet pots was to barrel all three streets but he would bet $3 on every street, so I made a small raise to induce and then when he CiB I thought it would be LOL to CiB right back to him cause a.he is never ever ever folding there and b. it gives him a third button to click. Also not to be result orientated but did you see the hand he ended up with? I love playing guys like this and wish everyone was this bad, but they can def run up stacks on you super quick if they god mode for a bit.

[BellaireDrew 2]

Full Tilt Poker $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1062265DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History ConverterSB: $5.31BB: $6.77Hero (UTG): $9.53MP: $5.00CO: $10.04BTN: $3.18Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is UTG with Q Q Hero raises to $0.15, 1 fold, CO calls $0.15, 2 folds, BB calls $0.10Flop: ($0.47) Q 3 5 (3 players)BB checks, Hero bets $0.30, CO folds, BB raises to $1.15, Hero calls $0.85Turn: ($2.77) 5 (2 players)BB bets $1.85, Hero raises to $8.23 all in, BB calls $3.62 all inRiver: ($13.71) 2 (2 players - 2 are all in)Final Pot: $13.71BB shows 3 3 (a full house, Threes full of Fives)Hero shows Q Q (a full house, Queens full of Fives)Hero wins $12.80(Rake: $0.91)

no need to jam turn there with position and stack to pot ratio being as it is

Full Tilt Poker $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1062270DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History ConverterBTN: $10.01Hero (SB): $5.57BB: $9.66UTG: $5.35MP: $3.36CO: $0.86Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with K A 3 folds, BTN raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.50, BB calls $0.45, 1 foldFlop: ($1.15) J A 6 (2 players)Hero checks, BB bets $0.80, Hero raises to $3.55, BB raises to $9.16 all in, Hero calls $1.52 all inTurn: ($11.29) 2 (2 players - 2 are all in)River: ($11.29) 8 (2 players - 2 are all in)Final Pot: $11.29Hero shows K A (a flush, Ace high)BB shows J A (two pair, Aces and Jacks)Hero wins $10.54(Rake: $0.75)

I think the c/r here is bad, either just c bet or c/c

[KingJames 11]

Drew is a strat beast

[HighwayStar 8]

The reason I played the hand the way I did was because of my read on the player and game flow. Dude was a total spazz that almost never folded unless I raised really big, he also like to hit the raise/bet btn A LOT!! His line and bet sizing in 3 bet pots was to barrel all three streets but he would bet $3 on every street, so I made a small raise to induce and then when he CiB I thought it would be LOL to CiB right back to him cause a.he is never ever ever folding there and b. it gives him a third button to click. Also not to be result orientated but did you see the hand he ended up with? I love playing guys like this and wish everyone was this bad, but they can def run up stacks on you super quick if they god mode for a bit.

bellairewdrew on strategy ladies and gentlemen

[KosinTrouble 0]

I think the c/r here is bad, either just c bet or c/c

Is it bad because of the J? If villian always shipping it when you c/r them with Ax or middle pairs wouldnt that make the check raise ok? Or is it still bad? When would a good time be to c/r?Kosin Trouble

[BellaireDrew 2]

Drew is a strat beast

bellairewdrew on strategy ladies and gentlemen

I hate you both

Is it bad because of the J? If villian always shipping it when you c/r them with Ax or middle pairs wouldnt that make the check raise ok? Or is it still bad? When would a good time be to c/r?Kosin Trouble

If the bolded is true then the c/r would be good, but just because you have seen someone spazz once before doesn't mean they are going to always spazz 3bet jam that range. And its hard for me to believe they would 3bet jam worse there enough to be ok to c/r hereThis board is pretty dry and there are few turn cards we dont want to see. Also the thing is when you c/r here you are basically over repping your hand. Its just my opinion that it is way more profitable to play it straight forward for value. If you think he has Ax here a ton and some PPs that he wont fold just bet 3 streets for value and size it right so you river is like a 1/2 pot shove cause a player like this is never folding. If you think his range is super wide and villain is bluffy then c/c and let him barrel off his monies to you. I think this line works better against bad agro regs who think when you check flop you have like QQ KK type hands a ton and they will barrel their entire range. Those are just my opinions tho and I haven't played 6 max in a long time. Also I apologize if my post is disorganized or incoherent. I don't usually post much strat as I have hard time wording my thought processesEDIT: also you asked when would it be ok, and for me it never would. I don't c/r here ever with any of my range for balancing reasons

[KosinTrouble 0]

I hate you bothIf the bolded is true then the c/r would be good, but just because you have seen someone spazz once before doesn't mean they are going to always spazz 3bet jam that range. And its hard for me to believe they would 3bet jam worse there enough to be ok to c/r hereThis board is pretty dry and there are few turn cards we dont want to see. Also the thing is when you c/r here you are basically over repping your hand. Its just my opinion that it is way more profitable to play it straight forward for value. If you think he has Ax here a ton and some PPs that he wont fold just bet 3 streets for value and size it right so you river is like a 1/2 pot shove cause a player like this is never folding. If you think his range is super wide and villain is bluffy then c/c and let him barrel off his monies to you. I think this line works better against bad agro regs who think when you check flop you have like QQ KK type hands a ton and they will barrel their entire range. Those are just my opinions tho and I haven't played 6 max in a long time. Also I apologize if my post is disorganized or incoherent. I don't usually post much strat as I have hard time wording my thought processesEDIT: also you asked when would it be ok, and for me it never would. I don't c/r here ever with any of my range for balancing reasons

If we lead out and say bet 3/4 pot and get raised? Do we ship it or fold? ehhh thats too villian dependant of a question...Kosin Trouble

[KingJames 11]

If we lead out and say bet 3/4 pot and get raised? Do we ship it or fold? ehhh thats too villian dependant of a question...Kosin Trouble

yeah villain and board texture dependent imoOn your hand... AJ6r, just flat if you cbet and get raised... more draws, ship it... those would be my standards

[KingJames 11]

I hate you both

I am genuinely happy to have a MSNL crusher share his thoughts

[droberts 3]

super standard to never ever hold herev1.24Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 9 playersCO I EAT BLONDY: $34.64 Button Nuts888A: $25.00 SB Hero: $27.08 BB DVDJOE: $25.00 UTG Ctrl-Freak17: $24.08 UTG+1 senorfrog63: $9.07 MP fillet o fish23: $38.94 MP2 nisakat2: $74.39 HJ taylormadee: $27.79 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with : : (9 players)5 folds, I EAT BLONDY raises to $0.85, Nuts888A folds, Hero calls $0.75, DVDJOE foldsFlop: ($1.95) : : : (2 players)Hero checks, I EAT BLONDY bets $1.50, Hero raises to $4.75, I EAT BLONDY raises to $33.79, and is all in, Hero calls $21.48, and is all inTurn: ($54.41) : (2 players)River: ($54.41) : (2 players)I EAT BLONDY showed : :, and won ($51.69) with a flush, King highHero showed : :, and lost with three of a kind, ThreesI EAT BLONDY won $51.69(Rake: $2.72)

[KingJames 11]

sigh

[BellaireDrew 2]

I am genuinely happy to have a MSNL bumhunter / SSNL slight winner share his thoughts

FYPalso <3 you

[droberts 3]

sigh

when its goin bad its goin super EFFING bad.. this is just unreal.. seriously.. i give up for today.. screw pokerv1.24A pack of feral cows chewed their cuds for .0043 seconds to convert this handFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 9 playersCO ForMother: $34.10 Button RyDom: $17.06 SB Hero: $35.55 BB yuran4: $30.73 UTG GK71: $31.70 UTG+1 rivertyme: $15.63 MP juli567: $18.08 MP2 Early Gold: $31.64 HJ myhedgefund: $47.21 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with : : (9 players)7 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, yuran4 calls $0.50Flop: ($1.50) : : : (2 players)Hero bets $1, yuran4 calls $1Turn: ($3.50) : (2 players)Hero bets $3.25, yuran4 raises to $28.98, and is all in, Hero calls $25.73River: ($61.46) : (2 players)Hero showed : :, and lost with a straight, Queen highyuran4 showed : :, and won ($59.39) with a flush, Ace highyuran4 won $59.39(Rake: $2.07)

[droberts 3]

games arent dead for atleast another couple weeks..lol at this guyv1.24Feral Cow PokerFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 9 playersSB Hero: $25.00 BB san diego slim: $17.62 UTG SHIHEN: $5.90 UTG+1 Money5280: $21.25 MP Thoyee: $50.57 MP2 McCoy8889: $24.75 HJ BluffinBill1234: $19.90 CO quadquads: $26.29 Button Jan Ullrich: $58.67 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with : : (9 players)SHIHEN folds, Money5280 calls $0.25, 2 folds, BluffinBill1234 calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.75, san diego slim folds, Money5280 calls $1.50, BluffinBill1234 calls $1.50Flop: ($5.50) : : : (3 players)Hero bets $3.50, Money5280 raises to $7, BluffinBill1234 folds, Hero raises to $23.25, and is all in, Money5280 calls $12.50, and is all inTurn: ($44.50) : (2 players)River: ($44.50) : (2 players)Hero showed : :, and won ($42.28) with a pair of QueensMoney5280 showed : :, and lost with a pair of ThreesHero won $42.28(Rake: $2.22)

[trystero 0]

lol against 34hh abovewhy can't the dude have had T9? why can't the river have bricked? why can't he have had 7x?

[Widescreem 0]

well after losing 4 buyins and having to move down i get this hand....im losing it lolFeral Cow PokerFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersUTG+1 boosti still on: $9.33 CO Prinz_Eisenhart: $12.79 Button Hero: $19.86 SB youaredonk: $10.00 BB Glazy: $11.04 UTG JACKSTER1941: $4.10 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is Button with (6 players)JACKSTER1941 calls $0.25, boosti still on folds, Prinz_Eisenhart raises to $1.25, Hero calls $1.25, 2 folds, JACKSTER1941 calls $1Flop: ($4.10) (3 players)JACKSTER1941 checks, Prinz_Eisenhart checks, Hero checksTurn: ($4.10) (3 players)JACKSTER1941 bets $1, Prinz_Eisenhart raises to $3, Hero calls $3, JACKSTER1941 calls $1.85, and is all inRiver: ($12.95) (3 players)Prinz_Eisenhart bets $8.54, and is all in, Hero calls $8.54Prinz_Eisenhart showed , and won ($28.53) with a full house, Jacks full of KingsHero mucked JACKSTER1941 mucked Prinz_Eisenhart won $28.53(Rake: $1.50)im thinking about grinding sngs to build my bank role

[KingJames 11]

Yeah not much you can do there... I have no problem jamming the turn bc it's less than a pot-sized bet and we have the nuts and villain can have a lot of two pairs or flush draws/combo draws/pair+straight draw etc that won't fold.

[Widescreem 0]

yea i was doing good last week but once the weekend hit i started losing ..

[CobaltBlue 662]

well after losing 4 buyins and having to move down i get this hand....im losing it lolFeral Cow PokerFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersUTG+1 boosti still on: $9.33 CO Prinz_Eisenhart: $12.79 Button Hero: $19.86 SB youaredonk: $10.00 BB Glazy: $11.04 UTG JACKSTER1941: $4.10 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is Button with (6 players)JACKSTER1941 calls $0.25, boosti still on folds, Prinz_Eisenhart raises to $1.25, Hero calls $1.25, 2 folds, JACKSTER1941 calls $1Flop: ($4.10) (3 players)JACKSTER1941 checks, Prinz_Eisenhart checks, Hero checksTurn: ($4.10) (3 players)JACKSTER1941 bets $1, Prinz_Eisenhart raises to $3, Hero calls $3, JACKSTER1941 calls $1.85, and is all inRiver: ($12.95) (3 players)Prinz_Eisenhart bets $8.54, and is all in, Hero calls $8.54Prinz_Eisenhart showed , and won ($28.53) with a full house, Jacks full of KingsHero mucked JACKSTER1941 mucked Prinz_Eisenhart won $28.53(Rake: $1.50)im thinking about grinding sngs to build my bank role

Top up. Fold pre-flop. If you don't do either of those, jam turn.

[CobaltBlue 662]

Sometimes I get there on the river...v1.24Your converted hand, now with more cowbell.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 9 playersCO: $26.35 Button: $50.00 SB: $55.35 BB: $42.30 UTG: $81.35 UTG+1: $138.10 (Hero)MP: $28.90 MP2: $24.20 HJ: $14.75 Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG+1 with : : (9 players)UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.50, 5 folds, SB raises to $5, BB folds, Hero calls $3.50Flop: ($10.50) : : : (2 players)SB checks, Hero checksTurn: ($10.50) : (2 players)SB bets $7, Hero calls $7River: ($24.50) : (2 players)SB bets $14, Hero raises to $45, SB calls $29.35, and is all inSB mucked : :Hero showed : :, and won ($108.20) with a full house, Queens full of NinesHero won $108.20(Rake: $3)v1.24Converted by the cows of Feral Cow PokerFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 9 playersButton: $123.20 SB: $40.25 BB: $76.85 UTG: $57.60 UTG+1: $59.25 MP: $30.25 MP2: $101.10 (Hero)HJ: $50.00 CO: $55.85 Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is MP2 with : : (9 players)3 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, 3 folds, SB raises to $3.50, BB folds, Hero calls $2Flop: ($7.50) : : : (2 players)SB bets $5, Hero calls $5Turn: ($17.50) : (2 players)SB bets $5, Hero calls $5River: ($27.50) : (2 players)SB bets $5, Hero raises to $27, SB calls $21.75, and is all inSB mucked : :Hero showed : :, and won ($78) with three of a kind, QueensHero won $78(Rake: $3)

[KosinTrouble 0]

LOL, Cobaltblue... You are a bigger river rat that KJ! Didnt think that was possible. But sweet hands! Villians are probably crying online poker is rigged.Kosin Trouble

[KosinTrouble 0]

yea i was doing good last week but once the weekend hit i started losing ..

Widescreem isnt your ftp name though is it? I was at a table on the weekend where i thought you came and sat. I asked if they were part of fcp and they responded what is fcp... So i'm guessing that wasnt you.Kosin Trouble