Wiz Adult 0 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 As an 'outsider' I will not be voting in this election,however I have been following with interest as the US president does have an immense effect on world politics, and this is a vitally important election in every respect.I am extremely disappointed so far I have to say; no matter how badly the Republicans screw up on important issues, such as the economy and foreign policy, and no matter how low the party satisfaction rate is,people will look for excuses to vote for them. I have read several pro Republicans accusing Obama of being a socialist,laughable really. Obama is in fact centre right: proposing tax cuts for the majority of workers to help deal with the strain of high oil prices and increasing food costs is not 'far left' as some of the idiots are proposing.If anyone sees this as socialism they are totally deluded as they are for dismissing his proposal for free health care(most 1st world countries don't let their citizens basically die on the street if they can't afford insurance).The Sarah Palin matter is the most laughable of all these sordid tactics the Republicans are employing, mostly because it's working.How blatant can you be? How insulting can you be? And yet due to the stupidity of large sections of the US public they away with it. Apparently it doesn't matter if she doesn't have any policies to help the economy,is "pro life"(no matter what your position on abortion is,it shouldn't be the government who decides on this important issue),plus a whole host of allegations of corruption, none of this matters to them as shes a "pit bull with lipstick". Thats a good enough reason to vote for someone,like f*ck it is! No substance no solutions, just bluster and force.Obama has clearly advocated change on various important issues,Mccain now pretends to, but when you agree with Bush 90% of time you would have to be seriously simple minded to believe him.Lets face the clear facts here; America is still a deeply racist country,not all, but large sections of it.Of course this will have a profound effect on the race and is doing so. I mean 15% of Americans think Obama is a Muslim, FFS thats millions of people. When will people just take a look around and realise what is going on?, America is crying out for change yet some misguided people seem to think there is no problem.Obama hasn't lost this by any means, but the fact this is even close shows just how small minded a hell of a lot of people are in your country. Link to post Share on other sites
wsox8 10 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 I'll be the first to come out and say it......................... I'm stupid. There you go. Are you happy? Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 I'll be the first to come out and say it......................... I'm stupid. There you go. Are you happy?I feel better. Link to post Share on other sites
Wiz Adult 0 Posted September 9, 2008 Author Share Posted September 9, 2008 I'll be the first to come out and say it......................... I'm stupid. There you go. Are you happy? Not really, I wouldn't give a f*ck if the candidate you will vote for wouldn't adversely effect the rest of world,like the last retard you voted in.But let me guess you're one of the 66% of republican voters who still approve of his leadership? Unreal! Link to post Share on other sites
Sam Donaldson 0 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 All your base are belong to us. Link to post Share on other sites
vbnautilus 48 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 I mean 15% of Americans think Obama is a Muslim, FFS thats millions of people.That's nothing! You're talking about a country where 35% believe that “the Bible is the literal and inerrant word of the Creator of the universe”.1 Imagine what that entails.12007 Gallup Poll Link to post Share on other sites
Flushgarden 0 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 As an 'outsider' I will not be voting in this election,however I have been following with interest as the US president does have an immense effect on world politics, and this is a vitally important election in every respect.I am extremely disappointed so far I have to say; no matter how badly the Republicans screw up on important issues, such as the economy and foreign policy, and no matter how low the party satisfaction rate is,people will look for excuses to vote for them.I have read several pro Republicans accusing Obama of being a socialist,laughable really. Obama is in fact centre right: proposing tax cuts for the majority of workers to help deal with the strain of high oil prices and increasing food costs is not 'far left' as some of the idiots are proposing.If anyone sees this as socialism they are totally deluded as they are for dismissing his proposal for free health care(most 1st world countries don't let their citizens basically die on the street if they can't afford insurance).The Sarah Palin matter is the most laughable of all these sordid tactics the Republicans are employing, mostly because it's working.How blatant can you be? How insulting can you be? And yet due to the stupidity of large sections of the US public they away with it. Apparently it doesn't matter if she doesn't have any policies to help the economy,is "pro life"(no matter what your position on abortion is,it shouldn't be the government who decides on this important issue),plus a whole host of allegations of corruption, none of this matters to them as shes a "pit bull with lipstick". Thats a good enough reason to vote for someone,like f*ck it is! No substance no solutions, just bluster and force.Obama has clearly advocated change on various important issues,Mccain now pretends to, but when you agree with Bush 90% of time you would have to be seriously simple minded to believe him.Lets face the clear facts here; America is still a deeply racist country,not all, but large sections of it.Of course this will have a profound effect on the race and is doing so. I mean 15% of Americans think Obama is a Muslim, FFS thats millions of people. When will people just take a look around and realise what is going on?, America is crying out for change yet some misguided people seem to think there is no problem.Obama hasn't lost this by any means, but the fact this is even close shows just how small minded a hell of a lot of people are in your country.In the immortal words of Peter Griffin: While I may disagree with what you say, sir; I'll defend to the death your right to say it. Link to post Share on other sites
Wiz Adult 0 Posted September 9, 2008 Author Share Posted September 9, 2008 In the immortal words of Peter Griffin: While I may disagree with what you say, sir; I'll defend to the death your right to say it. Quoting Peter Griffin may well explain why you disagree with me and why this election is materialising the way it is But I agree with your sentiments, no matter what the result of the election at least it will be democratic. Link to post Share on other sites
SuitedAces21 2,722 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 I don't really appreciate foreigners getting involved in our political process unless they have the right to vote in this nation. Link to post Share on other sites
Wiz Adult 0 Posted September 9, 2008 Author Share Posted September 9, 2008 And I don't appreciate your president invading other countries under false pretenses and passing on the credit crisis from the sub-prime mortgage collapse. So you see, I have every right to be concerned who becomes the next president of the USA.I would not care as I aforementioned, if the US didn't have such an influence on global politics. Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 That's nothing! You're talking about a country where 35% believe that “the Bible is the literal and inerrant word of the Creator of the universe”.1 Imagine what that entails.12007 Gallup Poll It's so disappointing that it's only 35%.... but I'm working on it. Link to post Share on other sites
Wiz Adult 0 Posted September 9, 2008 Author Share Posted September 9, 2008 That's nothing! You're talking about a country where 35% believe that “the Bible is the literal and inerrant word of the Creator of the universe”.1 Imagine what that entails.12007 Gallup Poll Wow, don't you have a proper education system over there? I knew there were a high percentage who believed this but 35%! This is whole extra dimension of ignorance. Link to post Share on other sites
vbnautilus 48 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 It's so disappointing that it's only 35%.... but I'm working on it.Be sure to start with Deuteronomy 23:1:No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the Lord. Link to post Share on other sites
SuitedAces21 2,722 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 It's so disappointing that it's only 35%.... but I'm working on it.Amen Brother.Wow, don't you have a proper education system over there? I knew there were a high percentage who believed this but 35%! This is whole extra dimension of ignorance.Now you've gone to far. Why dont you take your communist loving, FREEDOM hating ass back to France or China or Russia or wherever it is that you come from. This is America, and in America we dont apreciate you people and your "ideas". Link to post Share on other sites
Wiz Adult 0 Posted September 9, 2008 Author Share Posted September 9, 2008 Amen Brother.Now you've gone to far. Why dont you take your communist loving, FREEDOM hating ass back to France or China or Russia or wherever it is that you come from. This is America, and in America we dont apreciate you people and your "ideas". This is my point, I hate communism and socialism and have firm centre-right views. Does wanting Obama to win the election make me a communist? In what way is Obama left wing? I have been following the election and nothing he has proposed is remotely communist.A universal health care system is available in most 1st world countries,would you rather not have one? I am shocked at the ignorance. So many Americans label Obama in this way with no understanding of what they are actually saying. Link to post Share on other sites
SuitedAces21 2,722 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 This is my point, I hate communism and socialism and have firm centre-right views. Does wanting Obama to win the election make me a communist? In what way is Obama left wing? I have been following the election and nothing he has proposed is remotely communist.A universal health care system is available in most 1st world countries,would you rather not have one? I am shocked at the ignorance. So many Americans label Obama in this way with no understanding of what they are actually saying.But your point means nothing to me, because you are not AMERICAN, and thus not as good as me. Link to post Share on other sites
Wiz Adult 0 Posted September 9, 2008 Author Share Posted September 9, 2008 But your point means nothing to me, because you are not AMERICAN, and thus not as good as me. LOL It's no wonder America is the joke of the world. Why is it not surprising this retard will vote for Mccain? Multiply this imbecile by 10's of millions and you have the answer.Thats why this race is as close as it is.On paper this should be a walkover for Obama,shame a lot of Americans can't seem to read whats on the paper. Link to post Share on other sites
AmScray 355 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 1) What country are you from?2) Why is it that no one in America gives a rats ass who is elected leader there?3) Contingent on the obvious answer to #2, why should anyone give a rats ass what you think about our current political ongoings? Link to post Share on other sites
SuitedAces21 2,722 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 LOL It's no wonder America is the joke of the world. Why is it not surprising this retard will vote for Mccain? Multiply this imbecile by 10's of millions and you have the answer.Thats why this race is a close at it is.On paper this should be a walkover for Obama,shame a lot of Americans can't seem to read whats on the paper.Im just glad you dont matter in the slightest. I hope we invade your country soon. Teach you people some manners. Link to post Share on other sites
Wiz Adult 0 Posted September 9, 2008 Author Share Posted September 9, 2008 1) What country are you from?2) Why is it that no one in America gives a rats ass who is elected leader there?3) Contingent on the obvious answer to #2, why should anyone give a rats ass what you think about our current political ongoings? 1) I am from the UK: the government is rubbish here at the moment, but at least they will be voted out at the next election. 2) Answer has already been explained in above posts. 3) At the moment America has an extremely poor image thanks to a certain retarded president.It is not helpful for a country,on a number of levels both economically and politically to have a negative global image.The general consensus of the world is that Obama will at least show America is prepared for real change, and this will help mitigate the feelings of negativity that Bush has created.Mccain is practically Bush mark 2 and will send the opposite message. Link to post Share on other sites
SuitedAces21 2,722 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 1) I am from the UK:Oh, I see. Still bitter about 1776. Get over it already. You guys were holding us back, treading all over our freedom and what not. ROCK FLAG AND EAGLE, baby. Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Be sure to start with Deuteronomy 23:1:No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the Lord. If you start with even a basic... like maybe 1st grade level... of understanding of the Bible, then you would know that it doesn't make any difference what the old testsment.....Do you not have a penis? I can see why that is offensive.Does wanting Obama to win the election make me a communist?yes.LOL It's no wonder America is the joke of the world. Why is it not surprising this retard will vote for Mccain? Multiply this imbecile by 10's of millions and you have the answer.Thats why this race is as close as it is.On paper this should be a walkover for Obama,shame a lot of Americans can't seem to read whats on the paper.Me thinks you don't understand things well. Sarcasm would be the first obvious thing.1) What country are you from?2) Why is it that no one in America gives a rats ass who is elected leader there?3) Contingent on the obvious answer to #2, why should anyone give a rats ass what you think about our current political ongoings?this.1) blah blah blah 2) blah blah blah 3) I'm a communistWe know. Link to post Share on other sites
copernicus 0 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 "Obama is centre right".You're an idiot. Go back to your warm beer. Link to post Share on other sites
vbnautilus 48 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 If you start with even a basic... like maybe 1st grade level... of understanding of the Bible, then you would know that it doesn't make any difference what the old testsment.....Well these people did not say that the "new testament" was literally true, they agreed that "the bible" was literally true. It seems that maybe you too think that's quite a ridiculous position to take. Although I'm sure I could find equally absurd-when-taken-literally statements in the NT. Do you not have a penis? I can see why that is offensive.hehe. Link to post Share on other sites
Wiz Adult 0 Posted September 9, 2008 Author Share Posted September 9, 2008 "Obama is centre right".You're an idiot. Go back to your warm beer. Read this please http://www.politicalcompass.org/usprimaries2008 Find me an analysis which substantiates that he is a "communist" you idiot! Link to post Share on other sites
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