CobaltBlue 662 Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 Rio 5/10 NLHE (8-handed)Cobalt $1800BB $4600Cobalt is MP1 w/ . I've been pretty TAG and generally get respect. I haven't made really any moves. Table is donkish in spots and fairly loose. BB is relatively loose and has been catching lots of cards and attempting to make thin/big calldowns. UTG is somewhat competent. Button is somewhat LAG, but he shows some caution. There's a Mississippi straddle.Pre-flop:SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls, Cobalt calls, 4 folds, Button checksFlop ($85): (4 players)BB bets $50, 1 fold, Cobalt raises to $150, 1 fold, BB callsTurn ($385): (2 players)BB checks, Cobalt bets $225, BB raises to $500, Cobalt ? Link to post Share on other sites
NonZeroPossibility 0 Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 I don't know if I'm looking at this the right way, but I like the flop raise. A lot of times, you should take it down right there. When he just calls, most of the time he's checking the turn so you can take a free river card if you want. I'm curious to know your thinking on raising the flop though because it seems like this is the play you're using so I don't get the $225 bet on the turn. It seems a little weak and 57 just got there. I think if we're going to bet at all, it should be like $300. As played I think we have to call here and fold to a bet on the river ui. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 Rio 5/10 NLHE (8-handed)Cobalt $1800BB $4600Cobalt is MP1 w/ . I've been pretty TAG and generally get respect. I haven't made really any moves. Table is donkish in spots and fairly loose. BB is relatively loose and has been catching lots of cards and attempting to make thin/big calldowns. UTG is somewhat competent. Button is somewhat LAG, but he shows some caution. There's a Mississippi straddle.Pre-flop:SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls, Cobalt calls, 4 folds, Button checksFlop ($85): (4 players)BB bets $50, 1 fold, Cobalt raises to $150, 1 fold, BB callsTurn ($385): (2 players)BB checks, Cobalt bets $225, BB raises to $500, Cobalt ? bet, raise, call; check, raise ? Villain isn't folding, so I kind of hate a shove. Did we create the right odds to call this? Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 OOP I probably muck, but here I'd flat call. Your hand doesn't look a ton like a flush draw, so he probably will still pay it off if the flush hits. Link to post Share on other sites
CBass1724 1 Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 I think I would just call and hope to spike the heart on the river. I don't know what he would be check raising with unless he just thought your bet showed weakness. Maybe his 5-7 got there or a nicely disguised set of 4's. Either way we need to hit the river because I don't think he is folding to a shove. Link to post Share on other sites
Naismith 0 Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 I say just stick it in. I mean, he either has a set and you have outs or he has a hand he can't really call with. It's easier to make hands you can't call with. Link to post Share on other sites
tskillz187 0 Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 I say just stick it in. I mean, he either has a set and you have outs or he has a hand he can't really call with. It's easier to make hands you can't call with.I like this play a lot against a different villain. But Cobalt said that he thinks the villain likes to make big/thin calls. I could see him calling with AJ pretty easily. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 I like this play a lot against a different villain. But Cobalt said that he thinks the villain likes to make big/thin calls. I could see him calling with AJ pretty easily.He's really repping a hand that is 2 pair minimum here and he's probably never folding that if you shove. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 I say just stick it in. I mean, he either has a set and you have outs or he has a hand he can't really call with. It's easier to make hands you can't call with.Nice sig, future. Link to post Share on other sites
Naismith 0 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 I like this play a lot against a different villain. But Cobalt said that he thinks the villain likes to make big/thin calls. I could see him calling with AJ pretty easily.See, I take this as meaning he's going to call down, not raise. Thus I stand by my earlier statement: he has a set or nothing. Link to post Share on other sites
tskillz187 0 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 WTF is a Mississippi straddle anyways? Link to post Share on other sites
AimHigher 0 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 I'd peel a card. I think it's really unlikely he flopped a set since he just flatted your raise on such a coordinated board. It looks more like he lead with the 75 and then got there on the turn. If that's the case all of your 9 outs are live and you easily have good enough combined pot and implied odds to peel a card. You've represented a strong made hand and if the heart does come he is going to stack off because he won't have been able to put you on a heart draw. Link to post Share on other sites
Naismith 0 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Cooooobaaaaaaaalt! Please tell them I'm right! Link to post Share on other sites
AimHigher 0 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Cooooobaaaaaaaalt! Please tell them I'm right! You were right about trips btw, I'm going to open fold them from now on! Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 WTF is a Mississippi straddle anyways?It's a straddle from the button.It actually costs the SB and BB a pretty large amount of equity. Link to post Share on other sites
AimHigher 0 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 It's a straddle from the button.It actually costs the SB and BB a pretty large amount of equity. I was wondering about this funnily enough. Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted June 17, 2008 Author Share Posted June 17, 2008 WTF is a Mississippi straddle anyways?The Rio's the only casino I've ever been to that allows it. Acid's pretty convinced that it's +EV to do every time and I'm inclined to agree with him. You build much bigger pots in position and really screw over the SB and BB. I normally have people attack it like crazy, but surprisingly I got three walks of my MS straddle the other night.Also, does everyone think that we have the full 9 outs or is it merely 7? Stove gives me an equity of 21.3% against the range that I give him...so we're 3.7-1 to win and we're getting 4-1 to call. Are the RIO bad enough on the 6 and 3 of hearts to still go with it?For what it's worth, I called here. The river bricked, the guy bet $500, and I folded. He later told me he had 64. (He would've called a shove.) Link to post Share on other sites
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