EerFoolWVU 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 When you're sitting at a poker table and somebody asks if you will show them your hand if they fold how do you answer? This will almost always give off some sort of read no matter what the situation...what's the best way to go about answering it? Link to post Share on other sites
Doug 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Just say no every time? Regarding what you said about giving off some huge read I guess you are new to poker, not everybody can read your soul you know. Link to post Share on other sites
Moneyball16 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 I dont say anything. I just stare at the table. Link to post Share on other sites
Thriceknurd 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Answer yes if you want them to fold. Answer no if you want them to call... I personally don't answer any questions thrown at me though. Link to post Share on other sites
GWCGWC 83 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 If you're worried about giving off tells then don't say anything at all. There are so many non-verbal cues the person usually asking the question has a pretty good idea of what they're going to do before they ask. Answer yes if you want them to fold. Answer no if you want them to call... I personally don't answer any questions thrown at me though.It's not what you say, it's how you say it. Link to post Share on other sites
onlyme386 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 "you caw it's aaaawwwwww ovaaaa baaabeeee"i say this to anyone who ever asks me any question Link to post Share on other sites
ObeyTheDog 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 I think this can be a good source of inforamation in the right context.If you are concerned, don't say anything. if you're reading your opponent well who asks the question, you can seomtimes get an idea of what to say to get them to do your appropriate action.If you have a faux "buddy" relationship, such as a neighbor you've struck up on nice convo with, consider trying to convince him you have it with a few kind words, or letting him know that you'll show him, or that you "got him". If you pick up that vibe, it will usually lead to a fold. Now if you don't actually show him the bluff, he'll suspect it, and if you told him you'd show him and then don't, obv the "buddy" thing is gone. That's why I think a generic "I got you" is superior, because you're not really telling him you'll show him your hand. Moreover, if you have one card that is a piece of the board, you can flash him that one card and muck after he folds. Such as having a weak kicker to go with top pair.If you have no relationship, it's usually a harder read to interpret which way you want to sway him, so saying nothing if probably preferably. But if you pay attention to the way the question is posed and body language, their action is usually already determined and they are just fishing. If you're bluffing, don't be surprised if you're bluffing with the best hand in a lot of these spots!I don't usually like saying "No" whether I have a good hand or not. I think when in doubt, doing/saying nothing is good, or a simple shrug depending on how good you are at actually being cool under pressure where such an action won't look phony. Genuine is good on either front.If you're begging for a call, talking usually won't help much, because you'll likely come off as too chummy/confident and get the wrong result. Silence is more likely to lead to a call.To play the flip side of the equation, I've successfully based some key decisions on the answer to this question against certain types of opponents. I really don't want to talk about what it is I'm looking for or what type of person gives more information to me, but there have been times when I've completely pulled a 180 on my decision because of a particular response to this question. The poor guy probably thought he was being nice with me, his false sense of confidence helped pick up a valuable piece of information to make a huge call in a 1k tourney. So, communication with caution/experience. Link to post Share on other sites
JoblessBast 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 If you're begging for a call, talking usually won't help much, because you'll likely come off as too chummy/confident and get the wrong result. Silence is more likely to lead to a call.OTD's entire post is very solid with valuable information, but the part I've noted above is what I especially agree with based on experience for this particular question.In a more general sense, I think you have to react to the question (and all situations in poker) in a manner that best suits your personality. If you have a way with words and are generally talkative at the table, a la Daniel, then you could probably use that strength more frequently to manipulate people into doing what you want them to do. On the other side of that coin, I look at two people who I consider to have the best "poker faces" in the game and rarely if ever give anything away: Ivey and Antonius. They are who I try to emulate when I'm in a pot, but the reason for that is not solely based on their success; it's because I feel as though their demeanor best suits my own game and presence. Link to post Share on other sites
Dratj 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Just say, "Sorry, I never show unless I have to.". Link to post Share on other sites
SilentButDeadly3 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 "Sorry John, I don't remember."Then get up and walk away. Link to post Share on other sites
Dratj 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 "Sorry John, I don't remember."Then get up and walk away.lol. What if his name isn't John? Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 lol. What if his name isn't John?That's even better. Link to post Share on other sites
Naked_Cowboy 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 don't talk unless you're supremely confident in your ability to do so without giving out information. Link to post Share on other sites
mooncons 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 In regards to the "faux" buddy relationship, it always pays to be nice and cordial at a table. One time at a casino, I had been chatting with a guy off and on for 2-3 hours, anyway, we got involved in a pretty big flop. He raised it 11 preflop (standard for the 1-2nl table) and I repopped to 25 with kk. He looked at me for awhile, and then called. The flop came all low cards. I led out, he showed me his cards, aa then put me all in. I mucked my kk face up. so, niceness can pay off. hmm...bitches. Link to post Share on other sites
ricardob 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 "Sorry John, I don't remember."Then get up and walk away.Rounders joke FTW Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 A lot of people don't understand the way to read people.Although you can wait for the 2-3 times you have a tough decision to attempt to read a person, this is very hard.While the game is going on, work on asking questions of the other players. Things like "Which car is your favorite" or "What was your favorite TV show growing up" Etc.Things where they think a second or two before they answer.You do this to define a person's comfort levels. and when they have a non-confrontational decision to make they might look up and left, or stare down etc. Use these reactions to help you when you ask them a question like "How much you got left" or "You like that flop"The idea is to have some reference before you look for a reaction.A buddy of mine sells advertisements on radio. He asks 3-4 questions that a person has to think about, because then when he asks them if they are interested later, he can watch their eyes to see if they are being genuine in their hesitation, or just lying to him and have no intention of buying radio time. This allows him to tailor his time to maximize results.The more you do this the more you will have gut feelings about the right play because even if you can't verbalize why you think he is weak, your sub conscience will.It also helps if you cheat by putting heart moniters on the guy , but some casinos are funny about that. Link to post Share on other sites
Shakey90 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 you can pull a chrozzo and just say "hi" Link to post Share on other sites
pezeveng 207 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Do what Vinny Barberino would do and just say"whaddya you mean?" Link to post Share on other sites
silkyjonson 1 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 It depends on who it is and what I have. If I don't have an idea on what this guy might do I just stay quite, but if it is the type of player that has to see the hand I tell them I will if I am weak and I won't if I am strong.I know a lot of people will say they will show when they are bluffing because they don't want to ruffle the other player and would like him to fold, so for some players I'll tell them I'll show if I'm strong hoping to induce a call. Link to post Share on other sites
NoSup4U 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 In regards to the "faux" buddy relationship, it always pays to be nice and cordial at a table. One time at a casino, I had been chatting with a guy off and on for 2-3 hours, anyway, we got involved in a pretty big flop. He raised it 11 preflop (standard for the 1-2nl table) and I repopped to 25 with kk. He looked at me for awhile, and then called. The flop came all low cards. I led out, he showed me his cards, aa then put me all in. I mucked my kk face up. so, niceness can pay off. hmm...bitches.Being nice at the table makes me so much money live I can't even believe it. People are so crazy sometimes. I talked a guy into folding KK pf at Foxwoods. In a WSOP tourney I was close to busto and shipped it in with A2o over 2 limpers. First guy folds, next guy is right next to me and we've been chummy. He agonizes for a while and finally tells me: I know you have a big hand, but this is my favorite hand and I like you so I'll call, and shows me J9o. That was for about 2/5 of his chips. LOL.Mark Link to post Share on other sites
Potsie P 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Being nice at the table makes me so much money live I can't even believe it. People are so crazy sometimes. I talked a guy into folding KK pf at Foxwoods. In a WSOP tourney I was close to busto and shipped it in with A2o over 2 limpers. First guy folds, next guy is right next to me and we've been chummy. He agonizes for a while and finally tells me: I know you have a big hand, but this is my favorite hand and I like you so I'll call, and shows me J9o. That was for about 2/5 of his chips. LOL.MarkNice FTW, definitely.WRT the OP, I usually answer, "I don't know. But I definitely will if you call." Not great, I know, but it's both a response and an honest one, so I know I'm not giving away anything when I say it. It's like when an ugly chick asks me if she's hot, I always answer, "You're definitely on a scale of one to ten." Honest, but vacuous. Link to post Share on other sites
david_keena 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Just tell them to raise so u can ask them the ? Link to post Share on other sites
dapokerbum 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Nice FTW, definitely.WRT the OP, I usually answer, "I don't know. But I definitely will if you call." Not great, I know, but it's both a response and an honest one, so I know I'm not giving away anything when I say it. It's like when an ugly chick asks me if she's hot, I always answer, "You're definitely on a scale of one to ten." Honest, but vacuous.Priceless Link to post Share on other sites
Elo and AG 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Being nice at the table makes me so much money live I can't even believe it. People are so crazy sometimes. I talked a guy into folding KK pf at Foxwoods. In a WSOP tourney I was close to busto and shipped it in with A2o over 2 limpers. First guy folds, next guy is right next to me and we've been chummy. He agonizes for a while and finally tells me: I know you have a big hand, but this is my favorite hand and I like you so I'll call, and shows me J9o. That was for about 2/5 of his chips. LOL.MarkMark, did you tell him, "ahhh, Brandon, I've got a HAND......." before you pushed ???? Link to post Share on other sites
SlapStick 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 No if they are bad/calling stationsNothing if they have a head on their shoulders Link to post Share on other sites
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