RDog 0 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?t=149078There was a lot of speculation about this in several threads on 4. Shouldn't be surprised. And once again, why is anyone giving either site their business? Link to post Share on other sites
MyPlayIsRAB 0 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 ub went from the top 3 to the top 10 online pokerrooms fairly quickly imo Link to post Share on other sites
Suited_Up 2 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Unreal. Link to post Share on other sites
GeneralGeeWhiz 0 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 3rd Link to post Share on other sites
mase_gotsem 0 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 gna close my acounts on ap and ub no point in playing there anywayz the sites suck balls Link to post Share on other sites
Flushgarden 0 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 At least they're admitting it. Its a step in the right direction. Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted March 8, 2008 Author Share Posted March 8, 2008 At least they're admitting it. Its a step in the right direction.LOL. They had no choice. The players figured it out. And you think if you had a company with 2 different entities doing the same thing, and there was a HUGE problem at one that you would check the other one? Nothing UB/AP has done in any of the situations is a step in the right direction. Link to post Share on other sites
finztotheleft 0 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 How bad would this have gotten if those brainiacs/high rollers at 2+2 hadn't figured out these scams ? Link to post Share on other sites
vbnautilus 48 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 At least they're admitting it. Its a step in the right direction.They haven't admitted anything except that his "winning statistics were indeed abnormal". Link to post Share on other sites
pokerprolific 0 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 How bad would this have gotten if those brainiacs/high rollers at 2+2 hadn't figured out these scams ?qfmft Link to post Share on other sites
chgocubs99 0 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Will read tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites
cubsfan44 0 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Will read tomorrow.Oh good, I was just thinking I wonder when Chris will be reading this. Link to post Share on other sites
NoSup4U 0 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Oh good, I was just thinking I wonder when Chris will be reading this.LOL :)Can someone link to the original posts about this, I actually hadn't heard anything!?!!Mark Link to post Share on other sites
cardcore 0 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 UB and AP are still going to be insanely popular, even if 2+2 doesn't play there Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 UB and AP are still going to be insanely popular, even if 2+2 doesn't play thereAnd incredibly fishy. Link to post Share on other sites
Vick12 0 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 And incredibly rigged.fyp Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 fypI can't believe it's rigged while I'm making 6 BB/100 playing LIMIT. Once I stop winning, we can talk, I suppose, lol. Link to post Share on other sites
psujohn 0 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Wasn't NioNio also one of the usernames when they scammed on AP? These guys really aren't very bright are they. Link to post Share on other sites
Vick12 0 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 I can't believe it's rigged while I'm making 6 BB/100 playing LIMIT. Once I stop winning, we can talk, I suppose, lol.I don't doubt that u crush over there....I just know that I would personally never put mobney on a site/company that has been found to have superusers etc. Fwiw...I think you would run at 3-4 BB/100 on EVERY SITE....especially since like 10 people on planet earth still play limit and you are one of the top 5!!!=) Link to post Share on other sites
aucu 3 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 I can't believe it's rigged while I'm making 6 BB/100 playing LIMIT. Once I stop winning, we can talk, I suppose, lol.The proof is in, it was fixed, but how wide spread was it?Can't see anyone trying to cheat HU, that would be too obv, is that now where you play the most?Anything that stops 2+2ers from playing has got to be good for the rest of us, right?But if this undercuts them enough the site could go under, that would be a shame. Link to post Share on other sites
grocery_mony 8 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 I can't believe it's rigged while I'm making 6 BB/100 playing LIMIT. Once I stop winning, we can talk, I suppose, lol.superuser obv. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 AP is 4 free weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Link to post Share on other sites
cubsfan44 0 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 The proof is in, it was fixed, but how wide spread was it?Can't see anyone trying to cheat HU, that would be too obv, is that now where you play the most?Anything that stops 2+2ers from playing has got to be good for the rest of us, right?But if this undercuts them enough the site could go under, that would be a shame.Why would it be a shame for AP/UB to go under? IMO they deserve atleast that prolly a lot worse Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 The proof is in, it was fixed, but how wide spread was it?Can't see anyone trying to cheat HU, that would be too obv, is that now where you play the most?Anything that stops 2+2ers from playing has got to be good for the rest of us, right?But if this undercuts them enough the site could go under, that would be a shame.Yeah, I dunno. Honestly, I don't know anything about this UB situation. I just play on AP, very comfortably, and have 5-figures on the site, feeling very safe. I think they did do HU on AP, that was that whole Seif vs StuckinPGH match from a few years ago that everyone was worried about (although they never prooved that particular match).If 2p2ers stop playing on either site, that's +EV for me. I highly doubt any of the sites go out of business though. Guess how much money these sites make of an average 2p2er... say, me... They haven't made a cent from me in years. In fact, it's costing them money to keep me on the site, lol. I get well over 150% rakeback playing heads up. Playing 6-max, I'd get around 90%. Every 2p2er would have full benefits if they played on AP, I imagine. I'm sure they wouldn't be too worried if those seats on the tables got filled by guys who didn't know what rakeback, bonus, were, and guys who don't know they can trade in their points, etc. They probably don't make a dollar from the 90% guys, after operating costs, transaction fees, etc.Of course, I'm not saying I like AP, or think they weren't in the wrong, but I do feel a lot better knowing they haven't made any money from me.So, yeah, 2p2ers leaving is probably good for the average guy, and probably better for the site itself, in terms of solvency, etc. Link to post Share on other sites
tskillz187 0 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Zach please edit your post taking all of the positives of AP out.Thanks in advance. Link to post Share on other sites
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