Why Play Limit?

[md16185 0]

Why would anyone play pot limit, vs no limit?

[RickyG033 0]

I am personally new to playing Limit Cash games, but play them for a variety of reasons:1. I want to play cash games because I often dont have 5+ hrs to invest in a tournament2. I suck at NL Cash games, cant get into the mindset.3. Im more of a grinder so grinding a profit doesnt bother me.4. Im practicing because a local cardroom opened but only offers Limit Cash games.Those are my 4 main reasons, im sure they are different for everyone.

[Zach6668 513]

Your title and your post do not ask the same thing...

[David_Nicoson 1]

You posted in a forum devoted to structured limit. E.g., in 10/20 limit hold'em the bets are exactly 10 (preflop and flop) and 20 (turn and river).In pot-limit, the bet can be up to the size of the pot.To answer your question literally, players who are good at (or enjoy) post-flop play prefer pot-limit to no-limit. In practice, stupid people prefer NL to PL, so the good players end up playing NL as well so they can play the stupid people.

[Moneyball16 0]

I enjoy limit over no limit because there is so much more action. Alot more bets, raises, calls and alot more showdowns.

[omahahilo 0]

I enjoy limit because the games are looser and people playing aren't as observant. Plus ... I feel that by playing limit I am getting much better at hand reading.

[Roo6339 0]

I enjoy limit because rather than being a game of brute force and fearlessness, it's a game of tactics and value bets. Don't get me wrong... no limit is very tactical, but I just find limit to have so many more subtle tactics. It's hard to explain...

[Tactical Bear 3]

I enjoy limit because rather than being a game of brute force and fearlessness, it's a game of tactics and value bets. Don't get me wrong... no limit is very tactical, but I just find limit to have so many more subtle tactics. It's hard to explain...

I am skilled in the art of military tactics. I also prefer limit to NL/PL games, simply because I am much better at them. My skill set translates well to LHE, especially against good players. I will beat a bad NL game much better than I'll beat a bad LHE game, but I'll beat a good LHE game much MUCH better than I'll beat a good NLHE game. I'm exploitable in a NL game because I'm either TOO aggressive, or too passive. I can't find the right mix in a NLHE game. My aggression works well in bad games, because I'm allowed to repeatedly pick up medium sized pots when I hammer away, and it's nearly impossible to lose. But when good players play back, I get myself into tough spots and become a break-even player unless I'm playing very, very well. Or I become too passive and paranoid.In LHE, I've played so many hands that I'm incredibly comfortable in all scenarios, and my aggression levels are high/selective.Roar.

[longshottwelve 0]

I've been playing NLHE for 5 years and LHE for 1. I don't prefer one to the other, but they are different games with their own advantages. I like playing limit mainly because the swings are less. I don't mind getting sucked out on, but it hurts a lot more when it happens in NL. I find it easier to track my progress in limit. Calculating an approximate wage per hours I play is more constant. Like most people who play LHE, though, it's the post flop play that's appealing. Reading the texture of the board and math factor more heavily at being successful in Limit than NL. Pot limit is good because it combines the post flop play of limit with the aggressive pushes that you can use in NL.

[avsfan 0]

Why would anyone play pot limit, vs no limit?

Because it take the most skill. So thus your edge can be higher against dunces.

[KramitDaToad 0]

Why would anyone play pot limit, vs no limit?

Why would a competent player think it's 'one or the other'? You should be trying to play all variations of poker as well as you can.SS2 has an excellent discussion regarding being a specialist or a master of many trades.Given the rising popularity of HORSE events it may well be the new fish pond.

[opie 0]

I'm just restating something that has been said in a different way in this thread.I feel like in NL, it comes down to who makes the correct decision on the big pot and who doesn't. The winner is who wins the big all-in pots.In Limit, I feel like it is who makes the most number of correct small decisions. Yeah, there are a few decisions that can cost you a pot, but most of the money you lose is making one bet here and there over the course of a session. There are some other decisions that can enable you to collect one more bet in a hand, and those add up on the positive side. The winner is who can make the most correct decisions that gain them one more bet or lose them one less.Different personalities fit each game better.Peace,Opie

[soup 0]

Because it take the most skill. So thus your edge can be higher against dunces.

[Sheiky 0]

I like limit because of the great feeling you get when your top set gets chased down by a gutshot straight draw in a multiway pot.

[Moneyball16 0]

I like limit because of the great feeling you get when you chase down top set with a gutshot straight draw in a multiway pot, hit it and then rape the guy with top set. Getting correct odds obv.

FYP

[mikeysong 0]

I enjoy limit because the games are looser and people playing aren't as observant. Plus ... I feel that by playing limit I am getting much better at hand reading.

very true. I played midstakes lhe for awhile and then in sept. jumped into 2/4nl and am beating it at a decent winrate. I have a pretty good feel for it because I hand read better than most of the people at my table.

I'm just restating something that has been said in a different way in this thread.I feel like in NL, it comes down to who makes the correct decision on the big pot and who doesn't. The winner is who wins the big all-in pots.In Limit, I feel like it is who makes the most number of correct small decisions. Yeah, there are a few decisions that can cost you a pot, but most of the money you lose is making one bet here and there over the course of a session. There are some other decisions that can enable you to collect one more bet in a hand, and those add up on the positive side. The winner is who can make the most correct decisions that gain them one more bet or lose them one less.Different personalities fit each game better.Peace,Opie

not necessarily true. I find I don't have to make very many all-in decisions in 2/4nl

[CoranMoran 0]

Limit is a science.No-Limit is an art.When I want to grind out a few bucks, I play limit.When I am in an fanciful mood, I play no-limit.--CM

[Roo6339 0]

I'm gonna steal that answer CoranMoran. Hope you don't mind...

[Gene zzz 0]

Limit holdem is a theoritical game that can be learnd were as Nolimit has no sure theory that can equalize players there is no amount of learning or practice etc. will put you above D Brunson ; Highstakes NL is not something you can improve and move up to as you can in limit. I play limit for this reason around that I can practice and improve I do play NL but never want to delude myself as to how good I am or would be; someone like Phil Lak seems a simple gamblin man but he has really improved playing at NOlimit a game full of deception and making others think you are wrong. So I don't fool around with the arrogant mob of NL players populating the tables they will never learn . Because they can't

[Tactical Bear 3]

Limit holdem is a theoritical game that can be learnd were as Nolimit has no sure theory that can equalize players there is no amount of learning or practice etc. will put you above D Brunson ; Highstakes NL is not something you can improve and move up to as you can in limit. I play limit for this reason around that I can practice and improve I do play NL but never want to delude myself as to how good I am or would be; someone like Phil Lak seems a simple gamblin man but he has really improved playing at NOlimit a game full of deception and making others think you are wrong. So I don't fool around with the arrogant mob of NL players populating the tables they will never learn . Because they can't

I'm sure I feel strongly about what you said, only I can't figure out what you said. So, either:"Here, here!"or"You're an idiot."

[longshottwelve 0]

Limit holdem is a theoritical game that can be learnd were as Nolimit has no sure theory that can equalize players there is no amount of learning or practice etc. will put you above D Brunson ; Highstakes NL is not something you can improve and move up to as you can in limit. I play limit for this reason around that I can practice and improve I do play NL but never want to delude myself as to how good I am or would be; someone like Phil Lak seems a simple gamblin man but he has really improved playing at NOlimit a game full of deception and making others think you are wrong. So I don't fool around with the arrogant mob of NL players populating the tables they will never learn . Because they can't

If there is no amount of learning or practice that can allow me to move up to the higher levels, are you saying that it is a game of pure luck or that people are either "naturals" at the game or not?

[antistuff 0]

Limit holdem is a theoritical game that can be learnd were as Nolimit has no sure theory that can equalize players there is no amount of learning or practice etc. will put you above D Brunson ; Highstakes NL is not something you can improve and move up to as you can in limit. I play limit for this reason around that I can practice and improve I do play NL but never want to delude myself as to how good I am or would be; someone like Phil Lak seems a simple gamblin man but he has really improved playing at NOlimit a game full of deception and making others think you are wrong. So I don't fool around with the arrogant mob of NL players populating the tables they will never learn . Because they can't

you are by far my favorite poster on this board.

[Gene zzz 0]

Ya I am saying that that is a talent with much more depending on very complex things. One could be reading hands, in limit you have to remain in the hand and not loss the pot if you have odds and maybe reads save one bet? but in NL you read for maybe all your table stake thousands; pot odds are not as powerful so playing a hand for its present qualities freflop has not to much carry. To put it another way the writer of the tournment books Dan Harrington states that No Limit isn't really a card game but cards are used as a pretext for a complex gambling contest. Back in the pre boom days only the very best gamblers played poker and only the creme played NL so today it is a household table game which shows alot about the society very risky;

[RISEorFall 0]

Limit holdem is a theoritical game that can be learnd were as Nolimit has no sure theory that can equalize players there is no amount of learning or practice etc. will put you above D Brunson ; Highstakes NL is not something you can improve and move up to as you can in limit. I play limit for this reason around that I can practice and improve I do play NL but never want to delude myself as to how good I am or would be; someone like Phil Lak seems a simple gamblin man but he has really improved playing at NOlimit a game full of deception and making others think you are wrong. So I don't fool around with the arrogant mob of NL players populating the tables they will never learn . Because they can't

sometimes i think that online players in general are getting much better than they used to be. then i come back and lurk on the forum for 5 minutes since i havent been on in a while and read stuff like this. and i remember why i ever played the game to begin with.also, NL poker is as much an "art" as a football game is a "chess match"check/raising the turn because you think the guy will fold is strategy and psychology maybe, but not art. youre playing cards, not writing a symphony.

[Mattnxtc 0]

What I have found is this...I can play probably 8 tables of nl no problem mainly b/c a tight aggressive style is best...I can play 4 tables max at limit and its a struggle...limit provides for so many more marginal/tough situations than nl and thats what makes it so much fun. Try bringing bottom pair to valuetown against a pfr whose range may include top pair and tell me if that doesnt get you going.