TJ_WinWood 0 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 I seem to remember a similar post to this from a while back, so if anyone can provide a link, do that.I was at greektown on tuesday when this situation happens at a 1-2 dollar no limit hold 'em 50-100 dollar buy in table...full table, seat 3 and seat 4 leave simultaneously to use the bathroom, etc... 5 minutes pass, seat 4 returns...another 5 minutes, and seat 3 is filled with a new person, original man's chips are nowhere to be seen, and also unnoticed by everyone including myself and the dealer...basically original seat 3 is forgotten by the wayside...a total of 15 minutes have passed and original seat 3 guy returns, says to new guy in seat 3, "hey thats my seat and those are my chips". new seat 3 guy says "these are mine i just bout in for 100 and havent played a hand yet." original seat 3 says, "well i just went to the restroom and grabbed a sandwich and when i left ii had ninety some dollars there". i tell the guy just calm down and call the floor man over. floor man comes, original seat 3 explains his story..guy in seat 2 pipes in "there was no money there, there never was any money there" Play is held up until the matter is resolved and i tell my buddy lets go have a cigarette while they figure it out. he says not yet, he is intrigued by the situation...original seat 3 is getting furious and is demanding his money, at this point, play starts continuing for some reason??? about three hands are dealt/played and seat 2 gives a speech "dayumn this table has cooled off for me, im going to get out of here before you guys take all my money" and leaves...at this point the floorman is talking to teh poker manager and i start in " i dont think its a good idea to let anyone leave, especially the guy who was sitting to the right of the missing chips (as seat 4 was also empty for a period, but still an equally likely suspect)...at this point my buddy tells ME to shut up its not my business, to which i get a lil pyssy, and we start an arguement..."if that was MY money missing youd BETTER say something, its not being a snitch at this point, were not in a back room this is a public place based on mutual respect and trust", he tells me to mind my own business and so i cool down a bit...after management reviews surveilance the manager comes back and says theyve determined that the man in seat 2 slid seat 3's chips over to his stack as the new player sat down, blah blah blah, so now the culprit has gone vanished, and the manager says its up to casino management whether or not they will reimburse his money...if i had to bet, id say they didnt, because the casino would be admitting they let a robbery happen and that it was there fault, major business no no, anyways, what are your opinions on the situation, what shouldve been done, and overall what you guys think about what happened??? Link to post Share on other sites
Poker Addict 0 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 paragraphs please. no way I can read this at night, will try again tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites
silkyjonson 1 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 You did the right thing for speaking up, they never should have let anyone leave. Although I don't know if i am speaking up in the D, don't really want to get shot. Link to post Share on other sites
kobe2odom8 14 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 paragraphs please. no way I can read this at night, will try again tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites
GWCGWC 83 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 I think you're right, the casino won't reimburse seat 3 and you were right to speak up. I don't think the casino could have kept seat 2 from leaving though.I'm pretty sure I don't like your buddy. Link to post Share on other sites
HubDub04 0 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Detroit is such a shithole. Don't understand why anyone would wanna live there. Link to post Share on other sites
Ex_Matt 0 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 I woulda just said what the **** really loudly. Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Erased 0 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 paragraphs please. no way I can read this at night, will try again tomorrow.Basically,Seats 3 and 4 leave at same time for bathroomSeat 4 returns 5 minutes laterSeat 3 is filled by someone elseOriginal Seat 3 returns, and money/chips is/are goneOriginal Seat 3 accuses New Seat 3 of playing with his chipsFloor Manager calledArgument ensuesSeat 2 leaves, quoting the loss of chips as his reasonOP recommends Seat 2 not allowed to leave until resolved. Proposal is ignored, and Seat 2 leavesDetermined Seat 2 slide Original Seat 3's chips to merge with his own stackShould the Poker Room reimburse Original Seat 3? Link to post Share on other sites
Poker Addict 0 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Basically,Seats 3 and 4 leave at same time for bathroomSeat 4 returns 5 minutes laterSeat 3 is filled by someone elseOriginal Seat 3 returns, and money/chips is/are goneOriginal Seat 3 accuses New Seat 3 of playing with his chipsFloor Manager calledArgument ensuesSeat 2 leaves, quoting the loss of chips as his reasonOP recommends Seat 2 not allowed to leave until resolved. Proposal is ignored, and Seat 2 leavesDetermined Seat 2 slide Original Seat 3's chips to merge with his own stackShould the Poker Room reimburse Original Seat 3?TY for the Cliffs Notes version. If thats what happened. Yes. Reimburse. They really screwed the pouch on that one. But Big D is a shithole. Link to post Share on other sites
Ko8e34 0 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Basically,Seats 3 and 4 leave at same time for bathroomSeat 4 returns 5 minutes laterSeat 3 is filled by someone elseOriginal Seat 3 returns, and money/chips is/are goneOriginal Seat 3 accuses New Seat 3 of playing with his chipsFloor Manager calledArgument ensuesSeat 2 leaves, quoting the loss of chips as his reasonOP recommends Seat 2 not allowed to leave until resolved. Proposal is ignored, and Seat 2 leavesDetermined Seat 2 slide Original Seat 3's chips to merge with his own stackShould the Poker Room reimburse Original Seat 3?Without a doubt. A player should be able to piss/eat without having to wonder if his money will be there when he returns. Link to post Share on other sites
GWCGWC 83 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Without a doubt. A player should be able to piss/eat without having to wonder if his money will be there when he returns.It's why a lot of players will take the hundreds with them when they get up to go do whatever. It's easier to kipe bills than chips. I hate hundreds playing since it allows players to go south easier when they go to the bathroom, or where ever. That, and it's more difficult to tell weather a player has 1K or 1500 behind. Link to post Share on other sites
fornicator1 0 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 It's why a lot of players will take the hundreds with them when they get up to go do whatever. It's easier to kipe bills than chips. I hate hundreds playing since it allows players to go south easier when they go to the bathroom, or where ever. That, and it's more difficult to tell weather a player has 1K or 1500 behind.Here they dont allow bills at all, black chips are $100. maybe thats what you meant and I misunderstood.Now will the casino try to figure out who the guy was that stole the money? Here you usually swipe players card so they know who you are. And couldnt they prosecute? Maybe not worth it for $90 but ban the guy for life. Link to post Share on other sites
BeaverStyle 1 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Detroit is such a shithole. Don't understand why anyone would wanna live there.DOWNTOWN where greektown is=not a shithole. The outskirts of detroit=shithole. Link to post Share on other sites
rogerwilco 0 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 What kind of shitty casino is that? Why didn't the dealer remember that seat 3 was still occupied? The new guy should never have been allowed to sit down.And wow, that's ****ing bold by the seat 2 guy... Link to post Share on other sites
nutzbuster 7 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 DOWNTOWN where greektown is=not a shithole. The outskirts of detroit=shithole.Ummm,,,,yeah dude, it really is pretty shitty.As long as they keep electing scoundrels and crooks for mayors they will never escape the cesspool status.That they failed to build the casinos along the river was another major blunder/misstep/failure to come back from the dead / political debauchery. The City is hopeless. Very sad. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 blah blah blah DETROIT .../thread Link to post Share on other sites
TJ_WinWood 0 Posted April 3, 2008 Author Share Posted April 3, 2008 yeah they said they got his face good enough so he wont be allowed back, as for seat 3's money....? my guess is they comped him mannnnnnny many dinners to equal his monetary lossedit* as for hundred dollar bills in play, i havent seen that since last summer, as the dealer sells chips at the table now, so i think thats a thing of the past, although i could be wrong... Link to post Share on other sites
TrueAce13 18 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 What kind of shitty casino is that? Why didn't the dealer remember that seat 3 was still occupied? The new guy should never have been allowed to sit down.And wow, that's ****ing bold by the seat 2 guy...How did no one at the table realize that seat 2 was doing shady work over there.?! Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 How did no one at the table realize that seat 2 was doing shady work over there.?!QFT.How does nobody see seat 2 grab $90 in chips from an empty seat?!?!?! I could MAYBE see him taking a stack of chips in seat 3 had a bunch of stacks, but again, how does he take ALL his chips without anyone noticing??? Link to post Share on other sites
rogerwilco 0 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Maybe it was only a few higher value chips and not stacks of 1s (which seems unlikely in such a game and would still be weird though...) Link to post Share on other sites
nutzbuster 7 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 blah blah blah DETROIT .../threadbrilliant Link to post Share on other sites
BeaverStyle 1 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Meh, Detroit seems to get nothing but hate these days. Yeah, Kwame screwed over Detroit pretty bad, and the city council is the most useless organization ever. I don't know, the downtown I've experienced hasn't been that bad. Then again, I've never gotten in a fight w/ a bum (my buddy has).I concede... Detroit blows. Grand Rapids>Detroit AINEC. Link to post Share on other sites
SBriand 4 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Ummm,,,,yeah dude, it really is pretty shitty.As long as they keep electing scoundrels and crooks for mayors they will never escape the cesspool status.That they failed to build the casinos along the river was another major blunder/misstep/failure to come back from the dead / political debauchery. The City is hopeless. Very sad.The whole Fox District by the casino's, fox theater, Joe Louis, Comerica Park, Ford Field and such is not in bad shape. Thanks to people like Illitch there are nice places in Detroit. Obviously you get away from that area beyond Wayne State and such it gets pretty ugly like any inner city in this country. Not the best city in the world by a freaking long shot but the WHOLE city and it's surrounding areas are not ghetto. I take great offense to that being that I live 12 minutes outside Detroit and I don't live in a freaking ghetto. Link to post Share on other sites
Bizzle 0 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Not the best city in the world by a freaking long shot but the WHOLE city and it's surrounding areas are not ghetto. I take great offense to that being that I live 12 minutes outside Detroit and I don't live in a freaking ghetto.And where do you work?? Link to post Share on other sites
BeaverStyle 1 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 The whole Fox District by the casino's, fox theater, Joe Louis, Comerica Park, Ford Field and such is not in bad shape. Thanks to people like Illitch there are nice places in Detroit. Obviously you get away from that area beyond Wayne State and such it gets pretty ugly like any inner city in this country. Not the best city in the world by a freaking long shot but the WHOLE city and it's surrounding areas are not ghetto. I take great offense to that being that I live 12 minutes outside Detroit and I don't live in a freaking ghetto.LOL, I live (when I'm home, not at school) 2 freeway exits, or about 1 1/2 minutes from Detroit. The outskirts of Detroit. Some areas are bad, or ghetto, or dangerous.. but I agree about the Fox District. I've seen a few concerts at State Theatre, St. Andrew's Hall, Cobo, etc... and the city is pretty nice around those parts.P.S. I remember hearing rumors that MTV was going to do a Real World: Detroit... and hold it in Royal Oak. LOL @ Royal Oak being "Detroit" Link to post Share on other sites
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