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[fatshaft 0]

LOL @ ALL THE HENDON MOB PEOPLE COMMING OVER HERE TO SAY RAM IS RIGHT. The first 3 pages were all people with 11 posts lmao.

fatshaft - Joined 16th December 2004Ariston - Joined 17th December 2004MikeJohnson724 - Joined 25th July 2005Perhaps you should stick to the facts rather than trying to rubbish fellow posters Noob?

[fatshaft 0]

it's not cheating and it's not golf.get a clue

It is quite obviously cheating, but you're right, Ivey is certainly no golfer.

[farmist 0]

HAHA STOP WHINGING AND WHININGIVEY IS A CHEAT N A LIARIVE MET RAM WHEN HE CAME TO SEE ME BOX, HE ACTUALLY WON 400K BY BETTING ON ME TO WIN IN THE FIRST MINUTE. HES A GOOD MANI AM GOING TO AMERICA ON HOLIDAY IN A MONTHS TIMEIF ANYONE WANTS TO CHALLENGE ME TO A FIGHT OVER THIS THEYRE WELCOME

I'LL FIGHT YOU AND WIN.I WAS BOXING WITH BEARS BEFORE YOU WERE BORN. AFTER I WON I WOULD EAT THEM BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT I DO. IVEY BET ON ME TO WIN ONCE AND HE WON 4 MIL ON ME.

[HubDub04 0]

You guys all have a mutated form of AIDS.This I know for a fact.

[Rodney21a 1]

HAHA STOP WHINGING AND WHININGIVEY IS A CHEAT N A LIARIVE MET RAM WHEN HE CAME TO SEE ME BOX, HE ACTUALLY WON 400K BY BETTING ON ME TO WIN IN THE FIRST MINUTE. HES A GOOD MANI AM GOING TO AMERICA ON HOLIDAY IN A MONTHS TIMEIF ANYONE WANTS TO CHALLENGE ME TO A FIGHT OVER THIS THEYRE WELCOME

MMM possibility your a bare knuckle boxer?.0098%400k on an illegal match. Your out of your mind. Does your mummy know your using her computer to write this crud? Bye the way, you have your caps lock key on.

[farmist 0]

You guys all have a mutated form of AIDS.This I know for a fact.

You best watch out or Guvnor will take your azz down.

[milbucksfans 0]

400k you say. Would that be GBP? How can anyone in the British empire not believe in your skills by now? Ram must have turned over a rock and found some Johnny Appleseed who'd been asleep for the last 20 years of your reign and happened to have a coffee can with him where he was hoarding his last 400,000. What a sucker. I'll bet he's not sleeping much these days.If anyone decides to take him up on his fight offer, please let me know. I'd be interested in setting up a closed-circuit PPV. UFC? Not anymore my friends. Illegal British bare-knuckle boxing. Taking the States by storm in one month's time.

[Volume26 0]

It is quite obviously cheating, but you're right, Ivey is certainly no golfer.

there is no such thing as an honest handicap. a handicap is an approximation and open for debate. Ram was negotiating his handicap up front. thats how it works. he simply lost the negotiation. he was hustled. not cheated. for an example casinos are hustlers, the best hustlers in the world but they are not cheaters. they offer you a bad deal, but they keep the terms of that deal.

[fiezk 0]

Is it just me, or are most posters who are siding with Ram recently registered users with very few posts..? The most blunt example is probably SwedishAnna who simply registered and randomly quoted posts and gave the same prepared reply. I'm sure that if you look for it, you can find it on several forums.

[fatshaft 0]

there is no such thing as an honest handicap. a handicap is an approximation and open for debate. Ram was negotiating his handicap up front. thats how it works. he simply lost the negotiation. he was hustled. not cheated. for an example casinos are hustlers, the best hustlers in the world but they are not cheaters. they offer you a bad deal, but they keep the terms of that deal.

He didn't lose the negotiations, when asked specific questions in order to attain a stroke difference for that day, Ivey lied, ergo he has cheated. Simple really.

[fatshaft 0]

there is no such thing as an honest handicap. a handicap is an approximation and open for debate.

and from these two comments, I can only assume you have never been near a golf course in your life

[farmist 0]

He didn't lose the negotiations, when asked specific questions in order to attain a stroke difference for that day, Ivey lied, ergo he has cheated. Simple really.

Not cheated...hustled. Quite different. If Ram had been astute about his game and Ivey's he would have relaized something was up, instead he kept pushing his luck (just like every sucker does) and lost a bundle. Now he is whining about it when the truth of the matter is he got punk'd.

[fatshaft 0]

Is it just me, or are most posters who are siding with Ram recently registered users with very few posts..? The most blunt example is probably SwedishAnna who simply registered and randomly quoted posts and gave the same prepared reply. I'm sure that if you look for it, you can find it on several forums.

whereas myself and Ariston are the longest standing members to have posted in this thread.......farmist on the other hand....

[Volume26 0]

and from these two comments, I can only assume you have never been near a golf course in your life

once again and you just dont seem to get it...THIS IS NOT GOLF. It's gambling. It's betting. It's props. Golf is merely the vehicle used. Everything, including the rules must be negotiated beforehand. Ram clearly lost that negotiation but that's part of the game (and once again, no not the game of golf. GOLF GAMBLING).

[fatshaft 0]

Not cheated...hustled. Quite different. If Ram had been astute about his game and Ivey's he would have relaized something was up, instead he kept pushing his luck (just like every sucker does) and lost a bundle. Now he is whining about it when the truth of the matter is he got punk'd.

Dress it up in any language you want, the only reason are trying to justify Ivey's cheating is entirely because of who he is, if he wasn't a top poker pro, there would be no arguement here.

[farmist 0]

whereas myself and Ariston are the longest standing members to have posted in this thread.......farmist on the other hand....

Uh, I never said anything about how long you guys have been members...or anything related to that. Sorry.

[Faustus 0]

Not cheated...hustled.

hus·tle -tled, -tling, noun –verb (used without object) 1. to proceed or work rapidly or energetically: to hustle about putting a house in order. 2. to push or force one's way; jostle or shove. 3. to be aggressive, esp. in business or other financial dealings. 4. Slang. to earn one's living by illicit or unethical means. 5. Slang. (of a prostitute) to solicit clients. –verb (used with object) 6. to convey or cause to move, esp. to leave, roughly or hurriedly: They hustled him out of the bar. 7. to pressure or coerce (a person) to buy or do something: to hustle the customers into buying more drinks. 8. to urge, prod, or speed up: Hustle your work along. 9. to obtain by aggressive or illicit means: He could always hustle a buck or two from some sucker. 10. to beg; solicit. 11. to sell in or work (an area), esp. by high-pressure tactics: The souvenir venders began hustling the town at dawn. 12. to sell aggressively: to hustle souvenirs. 13. to jostle, push, or shove roughly. 14. Slang. to induce (someone) to gamble or to promote (a gambling game) when the odds of winning are overwhelmingly in one's own favor. 15. Slang. to cheat; swindle: They hustled him out of his savings. 16. Slang. a. (of a prostitute) to solicit (someone). b. to attempt to persuade (someone) to have sexual relations. c. to promote or publicize in a lively, vigorous, or aggressive manner: an author hustling her new book on the TV talk shows. –noun 17. energetic activity, as in work. 18. discourteous shoving, pushing, or jostling. 19. Slang. a. an inducing by fraud, pressure, or deception, esp. of inexperienced or uninformed persons, to buy something, to participate in an illicit scheme, dishonest gambling game, etc. b. such a product, scheme, gambling game, etc. 20. Informal. a competitive struggle: the hustle to earn a living. 21. a fast, lively, popular ballroom dance evolving from Latin American, swing, rock, and disco dance styles, with a strong basic rhythm and simple step pattern augmented by strenuous turns, breaks, etc.

[farmist 0]

Dress it up in any language you want, the only reason are trying to justify Ivey's cheating is entirely because of who he is, if he wasn't a top poker pro, there would be no arguement here.

Bro, i could care less about Ivey or anything to do with justifying his actions. i just think ram is a whinny little baby and is trying to dodge paying. Quite simply he lost...after he agreed to the bets.....and now he won't pay. Hmmmm, isn't that cheating?

[JaysForLife 0]

whereas myself and Ariston are the longest standing members to have posted in this thread.......farmist on the other hand....

1. wtf does that have to do with anything2. you have 12 posts, about 10 of which have come in this thread....

[fatshaft 0]

once again and you just dont seem to get it...THIS IS NOT GOLF. It's gambling. It's betting. It's props. Golf is merely the vehicle used. Everything, including the rules must be negotiated beforehand. Ram clearly lost that negotiation but that's part of the game (and once again, no not the game of golf. GOLF GAMBLING).

Like I say, despite ignoring what I refered to in your previous post about handicaps, and I assume as you ignored the question I was right, the term for betting Golf Gambling, whatever that is (I take it you read Blair Rodman's post on LVA to come up with the term?) is not what these guys had historically played.Ivey has cheated

[Oziumrules 0]

"Obviously your not a golfer"

[fatshaft 0]

1. wtf does that have to do with anything2. you have 12 posts, about 10 of which have come in this thread....

Wasn't me who brought up the length of time some have been here. You don't have to post to read a forum, so why this was brought up in the first place is beyond me? I've been here over 2 years, what has 12 posts got to do with the arguement?

[Volume26 0]

Like I say, despite ignoring what I refered to in your previous post about handicaps, and I assume as you ignored the question I was right, the term for betting Golf Gambling, whatever that is (I take it you read Blair Rodman's post on LVA to come up with the term?) is not what these guys had historically played.Ivey has cheated

whatever golf gambling is? jesus no wonder you don't get it, it's what they were doing. it's what they HAD ALREADY been doing. are you seriously claiming they weren't golf gambling. previously or this time around??

[fatshaft 0]

whatever golf gambling is? jesus no wonder you don't get it, it's what they were doing. it's what they HAD ALREADY been doing. are you seriously claiming they weren't golf gambling. previously or this time around??

They were playing GOLF and had a side bet, okay the side bets are beyond our comprehension, but that's what they are none the less.

[fatshaft 0]

whatever golf gambling is? jesus no wonder you don't get it, it's what they were doing. it's what they HAD ALREADY been doing. are you seriously claiming they weren't golf gambling. previously or this time around??

Again from earlier, you failed to answer my question, in fact answered a question I didn't ask. I am I right to assume you do not under stand golf handicaps from the following?

there is no such thing as an honest handicap. a handicap is an approximation and open for debate.

and from these two comments, I can only assume you have never been near a golf course in your life

once again and you just dont seem to get it...THIS IS NOT GOLF. It's gambling. It's betting. It's props. Golf is merely the vehicle used. Everything, including the rules must be negotiated beforehand. Ram clearly lost that negotiation but that's part of the game (and once again, no not the game of golf. GOLF GAMBLING).