mrdannyg 274 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 rakeback is now contributed and bonus only clears when you're involved in the hand.it didnt hurt midstakes+ players much, but it did kill smaller games - especially full ring.there arent any real stand-out sites for small stakes players any more.yep, just twist that knife.The crypto sites are surprisingly good lately, with tons of 1/2-2/4 tables going during the North American daytime hours. 5x bonus + 30% rakeback, with $200 available at Sun Poker, $300 at Inter (more at higher rates) and $1000 at Betsafe. Its no AP, but works out to a good rate anyways.Oh, and since this is the goals thread, I should mention that I quit my job, so i'm back to poker full-timeish. Haven't worked out goals yet, but I'm hoping to put in lots of hours when Crypto is active, from about 1pm-8pm. Planning on starting a new bank account, Neteller, and opening up new accounts so I can get RB at all the Inter sites, FT, etc. Link to post Share on other sites
IAGTTAYM 0 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 I've decided today to move all my money to UB. I've had it spread out onto diffrent sites playing micros. Got boared of that, so I'm gonna start to play some 25(50)max on UB. +10 buyins is my goal for the rest of the month... Link to post Share on other sites
BudBundy 0 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 yep, just twist that knife.The crypto sites are surprisingly good lately, with tons of 1/2-2/4 tables going during the North American daytime hours. 5x bonus + 30% rakeback, with $200 available at Sun Poker, $300 at Inter (more at higher rates) and $1000 at Betsafe. Its no AP, but works out to a good rate anyways.Oh, and since this is the goals thread, I should mention that I quit my job, so i'm back to poker full-timeish. Haven't worked out goals yet, but I'm hoping to put in lots of hours when Crypto is active, from about 1pm-8pm. Planning on starting a new bank account, Neteller, and opening up new accounts so I can get RB at all the Inter sites, FT, etc.I am so in love with Crypto. Bonus , RB , Players everything.How's AP Bonus better than Crypto sites? Explain please. Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 How's AP Bonus better than Crypto sites? Explain please.I don't think it is, at this point. AP has now gone to "contributed" rake instead of "dealt" for their rakeback calculations, which seems to have significantly lowered the rake numbers some people are seeing. I'm shopping for another site to get on to now through rakebreak, looking either at interpoker, ub, or Mansion. Anyone have any insight??On the goals topic, I said I was "restarting" the month with the 300 I got for last months rakeback. I've got that up to about 650 now, just playing 50nl and a good hit at a $3 rebuy tourney (8th out of 700), so I think I'm at least close® to being correctly rolled for 50nl...lol Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 I am so in love with Crypto. Bonus , RB , Players everything.How's AP Bonus better than Crypto sites? Explain please.Before they changed everything, bonus + RB at AP added up to over 100% RB, whereas Crypto is less than that. Also, the software is (slightly) better, and the players much much worse.Now though, there is very poor full-ring selection above 1/2, and the bonus/RB at AP is not much better than crypto, if at all. I'm kind of full-time at Crypto now, but only $500 per month in bonuses is not really enough.Is Pacific still soft as hell? Never played there, but thinking of starting up an account. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Crypto doesn't allow US players Link to post Share on other sites
BudBundy 0 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 I get it.Crypto has more skins than most of the players know. Almost all of them has at least 100$ (Or 50£) Monthly bonuses. You should travel a lot but it is worth it. Since Neteller withdrawals take up to 2 days now , i keep three seperate 1000$ and rotate them thru skins. Inter , Sun , Plex , Willhill , Totalbet , UKbetting , Littlewoods you can have +1000$ in bonus a month. I am not including Betsafe because i think their promotion is a one time offer. Btw Betsafe is a really good deal. It took me 5k hands of $100PLO 5k hands of $50PLO and 10k hands of $25PLO + rakeback = 1500$. Not bad for 18 days of work. (PLus what i won at the tables obviously. ) Link to post Share on other sites
BudBundy 0 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Crypto doesn't allow US players I heard a home game was raided by FBI in Miami. What's going on over there bro? Guess card players are the new Arabs. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 I get it.Crypto has more skins than most of the players know. Almost all of them has at least 100$ (Or 50£) Monthly bonuses. You should travel a lot but it is worth it. Since Neteller withdrawals take up to 2 days now , i keep three seperate 1000$ and rotate them thru skins. Inter , Sun , Plex , Willhill , Totalbet , UKbetting , Littlewoods you can have +1000$ in bonus a month. I am not including Betsafe because i think their promotion is a one time offer. Btw Betsafe is a really good deal. It took me 5k hands of $100PLO 5k hands of $50PLO and 10k hands of $25PLO + rakeback = 1500$. Not bad for 18 days of work. (PLus what i won at the tables obviously. )there are tons of sites, but unless you're getting rakeback at the same time, the bonuses are not much better (if at all) then just rakeback or a worse bonus at a site with more action. so far my numbers suggest that the clearance rate at 2/4 LHE is about $4/table hour, which is less than half of what BW says. Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 The crypto sites are surprisingly good lately, with tons of 1/2-2/4 tables going during the North American daytime hours. 5x bonus + 30% rakeback, with $200 available at Sun Poker, $300 at Inter (more at higher rates) and $1000 at Betsafe. Its no AP, but works out to a good rate anyways.Oh, and since this is the goals thread, I should mention that I quit my job, so i'm back to poker full-timeish. Haven't worked out goals yet, but I'm hoping to put in lots of hours when Crypto is active, from about 1pm-8pm. Planning on starting a new bank account, Neteller, and opening up new accounts so I can get RB at all the Inter sites, FT, etc.So you didnt like performing menial tasks for a wage that's a tiny fraction of what you make doing something you enjoy? Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 So you didnt like performing menial tasks for a wage that's a tiny fraction of what you make doing something you enjoy?well, my job was a stock trader, so it was no more menial than playing 2/4 LHE. Actually, it was about as interesting. Pay was approximately zero though, and it necessitated setting an alarm in the morning and putting on pants, therefore it lost to poker. Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 I wasnt saying poker is sophisticated and thought provoking.You know i think poker is boring as ****. If im going to be doing something boring, i just like making lots of money. In my underwear. Being able to sleep in till noon (at least). Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 If im going to be doing something boring, i just like making lots of money. In my underwear. Being able to sleep in till noon (at least).and I'm spent Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 I heard a home game was raided by FBI in Miami. What's going on over there bro? Guess card players are the new Arabs.I might be moving to Turkey before you know it. Link to post Share on other sites
Jordan 1 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 http://www.glumbert.com/media/tonguetwistertake your mind off bad beats/playing bad.- Jordan Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 http://www.glumbert.com/media/tonguetwistertake your mind off bad beats/playing bad.- Jordanlol.seriously, the recover too fast for me to believe it's not 75% for show.Those crazy orientals Link to post Share on other sites
homnig 0 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 Hey guys I just got pokeroffice and I'm wondering what stats you guys use for your table overlay settings for either PT or PT. Link to post Share on other sites
kkot 0 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 i think almost everyone puts VPIP, PFR, AF (does Pokeroffice do agg factor?) and number of hands.I like to put cont bet % on there too, just for fun. Link to post Share on other sites
homnig 0 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 i think almost everyone puts VPIP, PFR, AF (does Pokeroffice do agg factor?) and number of hands.I like to put cont bet % on there too, just for fun.Thanks a lot. They have lots of types of AF. preflop, turn, river... I think an overall AF would be good. I'm looking at "Aggr. Factor Total (PF)" and I think that's the one. Do you have an idea what the PF stand for there? Btw it's not preflop. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 I wasnt saying poker is sophisticated and thought provoking.You know i think poker is boring as ****. If im going to be doing something boring, i just like making lots of money. In my underwear. Being able to sleep in till noon (at least).it would be difficult for this to be more true. this job consisted of interesting, provoking debate, on matters that i find very interesting (yeah, i used it twice, i'm drunk). poker consists of lounging around in my underwear, expending no thought whatsoever, except whether i can consider it breakeven and image-enhancing to 3-bet an EP raise from a 14/6/2 with 88 in the CO.and yet, i earned $60+ just in RB+bonus in barely 2 hours, or about equivalent to what any of my friends made in a full shift at their jobs today.its almost frustrating that making money at poker is so easy, since its kind of killing any chance i have at a getting an early start at a career. Link to post Share on other sites
rocketpoker828 0 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 Well, as of the 17th, I've hit both my BR goal and my 180 FT goal. I (finally) won a 180, not to mention I'm playing well at the 6.50 turbo levels. As long as I keep playing well, I may be able to stay at the $10 180 level.Quick question though: Is 30 buyins enough for STTs? I want to start playing the $16 turbos, as I feel I still have an advantage over the field. I'm just worried about variance kicking in.Here's my graph since January (brag post) Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 it would be difficult for this to be more true. this job consisted of interesting, provoking debate, on matters that i find very interesting (yeah, i used it twice, i'm drunk). poker consists of lounging around in my underwear, expending no thought whatsoever, except whether i can consider it breakeven and image-enhancing to 3-bet an EP raise from a 14/6/2 with 88 in the CO.and yet, i earned $60+ just in RB+bonus in barely 2 hours, or about equivalent to what any of my friends made in a full shift at their jobs today.its almost frustrating that making money at poker is so easy, since its kind of killing any chance i have at a getting an early start at a career.At least there were redeeming qualities to your job.Brag:In the 10 or so days since i quit, im up around $7,000.Beat:My job was: ****ing boring, the pay was insultingly low, more than an hour drive both ways, and nobody my age working with me. They were supposed to give me a raise somewhere along the line, but i found out on the pay stubs that they never did. Variance:The hot and spicy chicken i had tonight was too saucy. Link to post Share on other sites
TheCinciKid 0 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 For the first time since I started playing poker seriously...I went broke today. I'd been keeping a pretty short roll for live play, but I had been trying to keep 2 buy-ins (50 BB) for whatever game I was playing on hand. Unfortunately, I'd been spending and I was down to $400 (less than I really wanted for my regular 6/12 game, but enough that it would take a pretty bad day for me to go broke). Unfortunately, I did something pretty stupid. I signed up for the 6/12 game when I got to the casino with $400 in my pocket, then I noticed that the 10/20 game had an open seat and none of the 3 regulars that I always see cleaning up. I decided to sit. Bad decision. For one thing, I had to buy in kinda short with my $400 and it was a kill game and plays kinda high anyway. I got down a little early, then got back even when my KK held up and even hit a set on the river. It was all downhill from there. I ran into AA twice, once when I flopped top pair with AK on an A-high board, once when I flopped top pair with KJ on a K-high board. I also lost with TT, when some guy raised in EP with 68s and flopped a straight (I do feel like I played my TT very well in this hand though). Then after bleeding a little more away I was down to $39, I decided that I was going to play til the BB got to me, if I got a premium pair I'd go all-in and try to get some money back, if the blind got to me, I'd stand up. Unfortunately, I found black AA UTG and raised, the guy to my left 3-bet, one guy cold-called and the button capped...everybody called. On a board of JTxx, the button bet both the flop and the turn, the river was a Q and the button bet again. I'm hoping she's got KK, nope...she flips K9o for the rivered gutshot and I was done. Brutal. Strangely, I'm not that upset. It hurts to lose the money, but oh well, I didn't make any really bad plays or donk away chips. I'm moving in a couple of weeks and it'll be a two-hour drive to the casino anyway. I'll certainly go back, but it'll be less frequent and I'll have to rebuild from 3/6 or 4/8 or something again probably. I'm still up lifetime on live poker. It'll just have to be awhile before I take another shot like that.In good news, I've been thinking a lot about Stylinhawyn's post from a few days ago and I played a session online tonight, really trying to concentrate on making good decisions. I finally had a solidly winning session at 2/4 FR, unfortunately, the same could not be said for 1/2 SH, and I basically broke even on the night. But, I feel like I have what it takes to rebuild my roll now, I just need to be patient and disciplined. Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 Live is such a waste of time anyways.Focus on getting to the point where you can win online, and money wont ever be an issue. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 Quick question though: Is 30 buyins enough for STTs?plenty.it really depends on how losing several in a row will impact you and how willing you are to move down.if you are a solid player, you should rarely go more than 9 in a row without cashing. Link to post Share on other sites
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