Poker Business Idea

[rayovac 0]

Hey all.Don't know if this will work or not, just hear me out.I've dabbled in online poker for a couple of months/years. Lately, over the last year or so, I've found it taking more and more time to find a soft game with people only playing 1 table, short on money, etc. I've had to hunt up to an hour just to find a game.My question.How viable would it be for cash game players to be able to login to a site that datamines all games on the big 5 sites, and be able to lookup players right there, and get all relevant data, like hands played, money lost, all PT information....Would you guys use it?

[fleung22 1]

all data?yes.

[checkymcfold 0]

i'd use it right after i sucked off the brilliant man who made it.no joke, and i'm not even (that) ghey.

[rayovac 0]

So you guys honestly think its a good idea?

[DaveUO 0]

Unless you are playing above 5,000NL it should not be taking you an hour to find a good table.

[Royal_Tour 0]

Hey all.Don't know if this will work or not, just hear me out.I've dabbled in online poker for a couple of months/years. Lately, over the last year or so, I've found it taking more and more time to find a soft game with people only playing 1 table, short on money, etc. I've had to hunt up to an hour just to find a game.My question.How viable would it be for cash game players to be able to login to a site that datamines all games on the big 5 sites, and be able to lookup players right there, and get all relevant data, like hands played, money lost, all PT information....Would you guys use it?

LOL i like your name/avatar. let me guess u saw a pack on yoru desk and thought, what the hell?anyways, about your idea. Sure, players would love that, at least "good players" would.Most players dont understand what soft tables are since they are the reason the table is soft.Also, In reality, You're asking something that seems a bit crooked.a site offering a service like this, would almost be like goin to a poker room at a casino, and having the Pit Boss tell point out all the soft donkeys, and show you which tables have had the biggest pots etc...

[rayovac 0]

Alot of players these days are playing multiple tables. Usually (I said usually) people who play multiple tables are decent players.

[checkymcfold 0]

LOL i like your name/avatar. let me guess u saw a pack on yoru desk and thought, what the hell?anyways, about your idea. Sure, players would love that, at least "good players" would.Most players dont understand what soft tables are since they are the reason the table is soft.Also, In reality, You're asking something that seems a bit crooked.a site offering a service like this, would almost be like goin to a poker room at a casino, and having the Pit Boss tell point out all the soft donkeys, and show you which tables have had the biggest pots etc...

you don't tip the floor enough, dude.

[Royal_Tour 0]

you don't tip the floor enough, dude.

lol, probably, but then again, we're talkin about ontario, more exact. Casino Rama and they suck at accomodating players with anything besides long waits

[rayovac 0]

Yeah, Royal. How'd you know that?? Obviously there would have to be some cost. And it would be similar to sharkscope. More data obviously, but 5 free searches per day, same kinda costs as them.So what do you all think? Is there enough players out there to warrant setting this up?

[checkymcfold 0]

lol, probably, but then again, we're talkin about ontario, more exact. Casino Rama and they suck at accomodating players with anything besides long waits

brantford>rama. AINEC. brantford is honestly the best run poker room i've ever been in anywhere, and i made sure i let the floor people know that on a regular basis. if they only got automatic shufflers....

Yeah, Royal. How'd you know that?? Obviously there would have to be some cost. And it would be similar to sharkscope. More data obviously, but 5 free searches per day, same kinda costs as them.So what do you all think? Is there enough players out there to warrant setting this up?

i think the biggest problem you might run into is that the sites would find out if it got too big, and they'd try to get you shut down. i don't know if that would happen, but it's at least possible.i'd be absolutely certain that if you advertised it well enough you could make lots and lots of mobney.

[rayovac 0]

i think the biggest problem you might run into is that the sites would find out if it got too big, and they'd try to get you shut down. i don't know if that would happen, but it's at least possible.

Lol@that. I see your point, but its kinda like advertising that you know were to get stuff cheaper than at walmart, and then walmart trying to shut you down, but they end up buying you out.Again, I think the only real problem you might run into is if you incorporated this into a program, and used it with HUD or whatnot on the actual site.If it was just web based, like thepokerdb, then eh, dunno

[Royal_Tour 0]

Lol@that. I see your point, but its kinda like advertising that you know were to get stuff cheaper than at walmart, and then walmart trying to shut you down, but they end up buying you out.Again, I think the only real problem you might run into is if you incorporated this into a program, and used it with HUD or whatnot on the actual site.If it was just web based, like thepokerdb, then eh, dunno

wait, I thought u said the site itself would tell you where the soft tables are?I could see them doin it for their own site, to promote more players joining, but a site like UB wont offer a program that tells you where the fishiest tables are for UB,PS,PP,FT etc... thats just bad business.checky:, I've never been to Brantford yet, now i gotta go

[CzechRazor 0]

I'll do my own PokerTracker datamining for free.

[rayovac 0]

Yes it would.It would automatically datamine all tables. Then you'd login, select your site, enter all the names on a table, and it would pop up with a whole list of info about each player, and the ability to get more data, by clicking a link, get more in depth details, like types of hands played, value won with each hand, amount they showdown....stuff like that.

[fleung22 1]

checky:, I've never been to Brantford yet, now i gotta go

Brantford IS a pretty decent cardroom but there are two things that aren't going for it.1. No call in...this sucks big time because it's all limit holdem there and that means you could get stuck in line for 2+ hours2. It's Brantford...wtf are you going to do other than poker? not fukkin much.IMHO River Rock is the best Canadian Casino and there are several cardrooms I'd put ahead of Brantford. Just 'cause you were cold in LV don't blame the whole city there Jamie.

[AcesUp46 0]

It's a good idea. Problem is that the poker sites won't like it cos it benefits the good players and makes the bad players go bust faster. They'll then implement ways to make sure you won't use the site while playing on their site. Once I was checking up some guy's PartyPoker stats using PokerProphecy's free search and I got a pop up message saying that it's illegal.

[James D 0]

I would sign up today. I'm positive there would be legal issues aplenty (this would be going further than PokerTracker in terms of data), but it's a very good idea.Well... the ideal situation would be that only a few people knew about it, but that wouldn't happen obviously if it was successful at what it does.Any extra information on the players at your table is always an advantage, if used correctly.

[WowThats 0]

Interesting analogy... this type of feature would be detrimental to online gambling people do not want to be made to feel they are being singled out and may consider it an form of anti-social behavior or cheating.One other thing to consider ryaovac: "you may end up on other player's list."

[Royal_Tour 0]

Yes it would.It would automatically datamine all tables. Then you'd login, select your site, enter all the names on a table, and it would pop up with a whole list of info about each player, and the ability to get more data, by clicking a link, get more in depth details, like types of hands played, value won with each hand, amount they showdown....stuff like that.

call me old school, but i'm against stuff like that.no offence. its still coolsince we're on the subject, I've got a poker idea of my own.I call it the "Jump to decisions" Mat.You see there would be this mat, with different poker desicions, you could jump too.so when you're faced with a tuff call, you jump to an area and where u land thats how you play it

[Al Smooth 0]

Whether people here can agree whether or not it would be ethical or not, the fact is that anyone who has/uses poker tracker and appreciates it will basically be forced to buy the "new" software since it will basically complete everything that pokertracker does. I mean would you continue to use software that gives you incomplete informatin if you knew that there was another version that offered complete information??? You'd make a lot of money if you could pull it off, but as a previous poster mentioned, some sites may ban it's use. If they do, you'r little party will be over...but you won't care because you'll already have your cash up front. IT's a good idea if you can pull it off.

[rayovac 0]

Now, some of you have raised some viable questions. But let me pose this.If this was entirely web based, how would PokerStars know that you are using it. Do they come into your comp and log your websites viewed whilst playing on their software?

[eYank 0]

so your saying something similar to pokerdb or shark scope but u can put in multiple names @ once and u will get more complete information?is that what you are saying?

[rayovac 0]

Yes. Exactly.Well Nearly complete information. I mean, i can't tell what cards they hold in real time, but yeah.

[ForRealDD 0]

Shark scope already has this for SNG's .