chrozzo 19 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 ok, i did, u would tooI had 45 clubs in SB, limps for 3 in 6 handed table (50 max), i complete...flop comes 678 clubsBOOM...i check, checks all aroundturn is A heartsi check again...BB bets 1.50, cal, call, I call (hoping he bets on river again)river is 9 clubs.....crappy!i bet out 2, BB and MP fold, LP raises all in, i fold, he shows Q 10 clubsdon;t tell me you wouldnt fold there Link to post Share on other sites
MyPlayIsRAB 0 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 ok, i did, u would tooI had 45 clubs in SB, limps for 3 in 6 handed table (50 max), i complete...flop comes 678 clubsBOOM...i check, checks all aroundturn is A heartsi check again...BB bets 1.50, cal, call, I call (hoping he bets on river again)river is 9 clubs.....crappy!i bet out 2, BB and MP fold, LP raises all in, i fold, he shows Q 10 clubsdon;t tell me you wouldnt fold therehe has to have the one card that beats you.. i dont thik i can fold that in a live game, online im check/folding the river..lol.but in all seriousness its hard to fold there, just like when you know they hav AA preflop with your KK, you shouldnt really fold it for longterm equity for when you win Link to post Share on other sites
gatortom64 1 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 No, I am broke, but I raise till I die. Link to post Share on other sites
Wandigo 1 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 That's why you bet out at that flop. Anyone with a club is most likely going to take the free card, might as well make them pay to see it. :Djust giving you a hard time, nice fold Link to post Share on other sites
pj94z 0 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 u played that like crap.either way, im not folding a straight flush. even though u lost less money folding, i still think folding is - EV there... Link to post Share on other sites
chrozzo 19 Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share Posted November 22, 2006 u played that like crap.either way, im not folding a straight flush. even though u lost less money folding, i still think folding is - EV there...thanks for berating me on your first post moron.....i wish it was you couse you would have lost all your money in that game(edit: i apoogigize, youre not a moron, i should have bet more and earlier, but it was a nice fold, hehehe....welcome to the forum) Link to post Share on other sites
MyPlayIsRAB 0 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 thanks for berating me on your first post moron.....i wish it was you couse you would have lost all your money in that game(edit: i apoogigize, youre not a moron, i should have bet more and earlier, but it was a nice fold, hehehe....welcome to the forum)its an insta call. 9 times out of 10 he has the Ac. Link to post Share on other sites
chrozzo 19 Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share Posted November 22, 2006 its an insta call. 9 times out of 10 he has the Ac.it did take me a while to fold, lol Link to post Share on other sites
LincolnK 1 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 ok, i did, u would tooI had 45 clubs in SB, limps for 3 in 6 handed table (50 max), i complete...flop comes 678 clubsBOOM...i check, checks all aroundturn is A heartsi check again...BB bets 1.50, cal, call, I call (hoping he bets on river again)river is 9 clubs.....crappy!i bet out 2, BB and MP fold, LP raises all in, i fold, he shows Q 10 clubsdon;t tell me you wouldnt fold therei might fold, but i didnt the one time its happened to me. i didnt flop it, but i had the idiot end of the draw (6 with 789 board) and hit on the turn (10). so did the other guy with the jack. got my chips in as fast as i could.looking back, if i had been playing seriously, and not spewing money, i maybe could have folded. but i wouldn't.oh, and now i can say i've shown a 10 high straight flush and lost the hand. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 thanks for berating me on your first post moron.....i wish it was you couse you would have lost all your money in that game(edit: i apoogigize, youre not a moron, i should have bet more and earlier, but it was a nice fold, hehehe....welcome to the forum)You did play it like crap.there should have been enough money in the pot after the flop and turn such that you would have to call the river. As played, meh, he's shoving like $50 into how much ?... I'd be calling there - we need reads and pot size. Hard to follow pot size/number of players Link to post Share on other sites
UncleCollins 0 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 I just don't think I would be able to fold there. Straight flushes just don't come very often. You made a good fold there, but in that situation in the long run folding would be -ev. As far as I'm concerned, unless you have an incredible read on your opponent, folding there is just not an option. You seemed to have had a good read on your opponent in that hand though, so nice laydown sir. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 easy foldnice hand Link to post Share on other sites
qyayqi 11 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 unclecollins is correct in the same way as the discussion in the kk thread. it isn't about having a monster hand, it's about trusting a read that lets you fold a monster.though i'd feel silly if he flipped up an ace to show off his 'nut' flush. Link to post Share on other sites
BeaverStyle 1 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 why do you bet $2 on the river? What purpose does that serve? Hoping for him to repop, with you showing weakness (stopper bet)?I don't like that bet, I'd rather Check/Call (i know it's conservative, but folding a straight flush is conservative too)I think, how you played it, check/calling on the river is an option, especially if he's liable to bet w/ the Ac or the straight flush. He might push, thinking you have the Ac, or he'll just value bet and you can call. I dunno, I just don't think you're right enough here to fold, but you saved money this time. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 (50 max)DOH! Link to post Share on other sites
pokerplayer24 0 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Not raising the turn was a good play Link to post Share on other sites
blakheart 3 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Terrible fold, IMHO. And don't slow play this much. Get some money in the pot. Link to post Share on other sites
FourFlusher 0 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 All the times you laid in bed thinking about having the sf and some yo yo pushing with the A high flush...then, you get the sf and a pusher, and you fold?No way I could make that laydown.No way.Lucky you. Link to post Share on other sites
Dubey 1,035 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 I think its a reasonable fold. Not quite the same situation, but its not entirely different from folding the Kc to a raise on a 4-flush non SF board. Link to post Share on other sites
DB10-2 0 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 i folded a dummy straight flush from the BB in a live game with little preflop action once.it was a good laydown; the details don't matter.it was one of the best hands i've ever played, since i lost what i felt was the minimum once i was sure i was beat.i find that among the best hands i've played, the big hands i 've folded outnumber the "i trapped a guy for all his chips" hands by about 2.5-1.so, i think i'm OK at NLHE. Link to post Share on other sites
Dogpatch 2 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 I'd bet out the flop, make it look like a steal. Of course the only thing calling you is a higher SF or the A high "nut flush". But still, if anybody raised I think I'd have to push. More often than not, I'd think you'd win that one. Link to post Share on other sites
antistuff 0 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 he raises all in there with the ace high flush a lot more than he does with the higher straight flush.horrible fold. the way you bet the river makes it even worse. Link to post Share on other sites
Dogpatch 2 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 he raises all in there with the ace high flush a lot more than he does with the higher straight flush.horrible fold. the way you bet the river makes it even worse. Yea, that's my thoughts. I bet the flop, he raises or pushes with his A high flush and I'm all over it. Don't let it go beyond the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Not raising the turn was a good playlol. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 All the times you laid in bed thinking about having the sf and some yo yo pushing with the A high flush...then, you get the sf and a pusher, and you fold?No way I could make that laydown.No way.Lucky you.Ns. it was a 50 game. I push a sf every time I have one. Link to post Share on other sites
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