Murphinator 0 Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 I say 10% while skill is 90% in the long term, what do you guys think?My friend says I'm wrong and thinks there is more luck than that Link to post Share on other sites
GoCryWolfe 0 Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 Brazillion:1 Link to post Share on other sites
MyPlayIsRAB 0 Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 this useless post is brought to you by the number 4 and letter J Link to post Share on other sites
TheSkins 0 Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 Your friend is right, the correct answer is 11%.Unlucky. You were close though! Link to post Share on other sites
GWCGWC 83 Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 Have you heard of Tritz? He found a way to remove the luck factor online. There's a ton of luck involved in poker if you believe in that sort of thing. As far as luck vs. skill, meh, the best player wins in the long run. Link to post Share on other sites
TB17 0 Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 I say 10% while skill is 90% in the long term, what do you guys think?My friend says I'm wrong and thinks there is more luck than thatI think you guys need to find better topics to talk about. Link to post Share on other sites
NOFX_PUNK 0 Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 The %age that the suckout was to win on the river when he hit it... Link to post Share on other sites
usernametaken 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 i think you need to find better topics to post about. jerk.I say there are to many ****** bags who ***** about posts or topics they dont even have to read Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 95% luck, 5% God Link to post Share on other sites
CzechRazor 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Impossible to assign a % to luck or skill.What you can say is that the longer you play, the more the skilled player has the advantage. Link to post Share on other sites
phlegm 6 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 If you play an infinite number of hands tle luck factor is 12.5% If you play one hand it is 100% So subtract the number of hands you play from infinity and you will have your answer. Link to post Share on other sites
Murphinator 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Author Share Posted September 18, 2006 Thanks to the few of you that have answered, sorry for asking a poker related question in a poker forum, I mean what was I thinking. Link to post Share on other sites
ShakeZuma 585 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 If you play an infinite number of hands tle luck factor is 12.5% If you play one hand it is 100% So subtract the number of hands you play from infinity and you will have your answer.I got 6 1/2. Link to post Share on other sites
Calendyr 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Thanks to the few of you that have answered, sorry for asking a poker related question in a poker forum, I mean what was I thinking.Actually it is more than 10%.Considering the best odds you can have is 85% chance to win in the case of a dominated hand, the luck factor is AT LEAST 15%. But since you will not always be in that position even if you play perfectly, I would tend to put it at around 20% luck. Link to post Share on other sites
IQCrash 1 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 22.354890% if you divide by two and factor in the antes and blinds. If you ignore the level structure and only look at what color shirt someone is wearing, then it's 22.49733% Link to post Share on other sites
ShakeZuma 585 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 22.354890% if you divide by two and factor in the antes and blinds. If you ignore the level structure and only look at what color shirt someone is wearing, then it's 22.49733%You're right, I forgot to carry the 2 Link to post Share on other sites
offset 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Thanks to the few of you that have answered, sorry for asking another retarded question in a poker forum.You're forgiven. Link to post Share on other sites
BeaverStyle 1 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 God Damnit. Link to post Share on other sites
TheCorporation3 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 I say 10% while skill is 90% in the long term, what do you guys think?My friend says I'm wrong and thinks there is more luck than thatShort term 90/10. Long term..100 skill. No player can survive without great skill in the long run. Link to post Share on other sites
blacktie31 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 No such thing as luck Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Considering the best odds you can have is 85% chance to win in the case of a dominated hand, the luck factor is AT LEAST 15%. But since you will not always be in that position even if you play perfectly, I would tend to put it at around 20% luck. equity (%) win (%) tie (%) Hand 1: 93.5649 % 93.09% 00.47% { AA }Hand 2: 06.4351 % 05.96% 00.47% { A6o } Link to post Share on other sites
rog 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 I just measured it: Luck is 9 centimeters. Skill is 15 ounces. Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 I know the answer, but I've been banned from discussing probability and statistics on this site for a period of six months. Ask again then. Link to post Share on other sites
quadaces 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 You're forgiven.Not forgiven by me Link to post Share on other sites
semaj550 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 equity (%) win (%) tie (%) Hand 1: 93.5649 % 93.09% 00.47% { AA }Hand 2: 06.4351 % 05.96% 00.47% { A6o }cards %win %lose %tie EVKs Kc 94.16 4.31 1.53 0.9492s Kh 4.31 94.16 1.53 0.051http://twodimes.net/h/?z=142129This, however, isn't the issue as you're not going to just push all-in at the beginning of every single hand. Having skill to lay down hands that were best preflop but got outflopped, get maximum value on goods hands, draw in the correct spots, etc. is what makes skill the only factor that matters long-term. Link to post Share on other sites
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