TheCorporation3 0 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Lock it up!!! Only the idiots have replied....the point was missed by everyone. No further discussion is neccessary.OUTI love you Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 First, a summary:SB bets $20.OP CALLS the $20.MP raises All In for $40 total ($20 +$20).SB re-raises for another $40 or so.The question, Can SB re-raise in this situation?DEFINITIVE ANSWER......NO!Explanation:1. Ignore all you know (think you know?) about any and all 50% rules.2. Ask yourself this "Who is the SB raising?" The SB is trying to re-raise the OP, not the MP raiser!! MP has no more money, you cannot raise someone that has no more money. Also, you cannot raise someone that has only called you. Would you allow this scenario: SB bets $20. OP CALLS the $20 SB now raises to $80 total?!?!?!?Of course not!!!Now do you see that you are wrong? Link to post Share on other sites
CzechRazor 0 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 I created a new thread to say "Please, Only Give Advice/rulings If You Know, Too many threads here have the WRONG answers..."But you may have missed that, Newbie!I should have gone to the original thread where you were posting in huge font like a penisface before I wasted my time with a sarcastic post here. You are clearly full of yourself.This is a poker forum filled with mostly lower limit players still learning the game. Use Google if you want the right answers, Sherlock. Link to post Share on other sites
13CARDS 0 Posted September 15, 2006 Author Share Posted September 15, 2006 PLEASE BAN ME, MODS!! Link to post Share on other sites
crazyIvan 0 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Lock it up!!! Only the idiots have replied....the point was missed by everyone. No further discussion is neccessary.OUTSo, your point is that there should only be one or two people in the entire forum who are allowed to answer questions, and everyone else should sit around and not contribute their thoughts, ideas, opinions. Cool. Great makings for a public poker forum.Thanks. I got your point. right here. Link to post Share on other sites
13CARDS 0 Posted September 15, 2006 Author Share Posted September 15, 2006 PLEASE BAN ME, MODS!! Link to post Share on other sites
navybuttons 15 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Lock it up!!! Only the people who disagree with me/don't like me/don't think i am god's gift to the casino floor have replied....there was essentially no point. No further discussion is neccessary.OUTFYP Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 First, please outline what you have changed in my post when you present a different scenario.I changed the allin from $32 to $40.Second, it is pretty easy to make someone's reply to a question seem wrong when you then change the question after the fact.No, it's easy to make someone's reply seem wrong when they are wrong.Third, I don't think you have added anything to this interesting discussion of Rules: The Misunderstanding Of Them.You claimed that because MP moved allin he can effectively be taken out of the scenario. SB cannot raise OP because OP just called and "you cannot raise someone that has only called you".I think it is interesting that you are misunderstanding rules whilst flaming others for misunderstanding rules. Link to post Share on other sites
13CARDS 0 Posted September 15, 2006 Author Share Posted September 15, 2006 PLEASE BAN ME, MODS!! Link to post Share on other sites
navybuttons 15 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 I'm done!no reason to get all butt hurt. we were discussing a posed question and because people did not agree with you, you called them idiots and then got upset when they called you an idiot.as a matter of fact i'm done too. wanna get a double scoop together? Link to post Share on other sites
Ecclesbury 0 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Lock it up!!! Only the idiots have replied....the point was missed by everyone. No further discussion is neccessary.OUTHello.Where exactly should we look this up? The internet is a weird and wonderful place, but I wouldn't bet my house on any information I found there.I have just had a quick check through The Professional Poker Dealers Handbook to see if I could find a definitive answer. What I actually found was that the all in counts as a raise if it is more than 50% of the original raise in a structured limit game. However from what I can see the book says nothing about no limit.What the book stresses throughout is that there are no hard and fast rules for these types of situations, and dealers should also check the house rules for the specific ruling. Also, the floor person's decision is final (and therefore right). So in fact I am guessing (as countless people have pointed out) that the rule depends on where you are playing.You are putting this forward as concrete fact that you are right. Please could you tell us exactly where you got this information? Link to post Share on other sites
MaryWithoutSound 0 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Hello.Where exactly should we look this up? The internet is a weird and wonderful place, but I wouldn't bet my house on any information I found there.I have just had a quick check through The Professional Poker Dealers Handbook to see if I could find a definitive answer. What I actually found was that the all in counts as a raise if it is more than 50% of the original raise in a structured limit game. However from what I can see the book says nothing about no limit.What the book stresses throughout is that there are no hard and fast rules for these types of situations, and dealers should also check the house rules for the specific ruling. Also, the floor person's decision is final (and therefore right). So in fact I am guessing (as countless people have pointed out) that the rule depends on where you are playing.You are putting this forward as concrete fact that you are right. Please could you tell us exactly where you got this information?Ding. Link to post Share on other sites
Ecclesbury 0 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 I've just realised that I can't read. He said "lock it up" which naturally I read as "look it up"Still, I'm going to leave my question, still relevant I think. Link to post Share on other sites
dead money 1 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...showtopic=74611Nearly 2 pages of incorrect answers (or right answers with wrong reasons!)...My correct answer is here:http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...t&p=1394542Can this forum not designate one or two people to research and post the correct rulings for posters?Well, someone is a little full of themselves. What you are forgetting is that the floorperson's decision is the rule. Sometimes situations are not black and white and thats why you have floorpeople to decipher. And what they say goes. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 This thread/idea is retarded. Link to post Share on other sites
Ecclesbury 0 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 hmmmm, no reply to my question!I love it when people get up on their high horse and shout down the flamers for not getting the point, and not taking it seriously, and then as soon as someone brings up a genuine point they go mysteriously quiet.The more I hang around these parts the more I see the temptation to just flame away. Link to post Share on other sites
hank213 1,823 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 I'm done!So people point out the error of your arrogant statements and rather than consider and rebuff their position through intellect or logic you resort to name calling. Hmmm, if the forum were to implement your backward thinking, fascist, elitist policy I sincerely doubt that you would receive the appointment Mr. Stalin. :shutupbitchpimpslapface: Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Agreed, it is very much "buyer beware" here. What I am suggesting is designating one or two Veterean posters/players to research and make "official FCP answer" posts to the many ruling questions, not just incorrectly quote Robert's Rules.LMAO. Maybe we could have a ruling committee, yeah? I vote Royal Tour as head of this committee. Link to post Share on other sites
NoSup4U 0 Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 I'll give my advice and rulings whether im wrong or right.I agree.I this thread even for real? Its a public forum, everyone is welcome to give their input. Don't blindly believe it.Mark Link to post Share on other sites
solo319 0 Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Sorry, you're wrong.I have seen this allowed countless time in the casino I play. If you an all-in raises more than half the raise, you can raise over it. It's the same in limit.Sometimes house rules don't follow convention.Thank you.....amenThis dudes comment should end the entire discussion he speaks the truth now let it die Link to post Share on other sites
13CARDS 0 Posted September 16, 2006 Author Share Posted September 16, 2006 PLEASE BAN ME, MODS!! Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Yep, I resorted to name calling. You got me. Case closed.Mine wasn't name calling. Link to post Share on other sites
13CARDS 0 Posted September 16, 2006 Author Share Posted September 16, 2006 PLEASE BAN ME, MODS!! Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 You post on average 30 times per day???? WOW! You live the life.My join date is screwed up, but what else do I have to do while I'm killing the tables? Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...showtopic=74611Nearly 2 pages of incorrect answers (or right answers with wrong reasons!)...My correct answer is here:http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...t&p=1394542Can this forum not designate one or two people to research and post the correct rulings for posters?LOL ... PRICK ALERT !!!! PRICK ALERT !!!! THIS IS A PRICK ALERT !!!! Link to post Share on other sites
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