Superkk 0 Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 Hi All,On of the biggest problems I have when going to play ring games is, what amount should I buy in for. I usually play $ 3/6 live and like to play$1/2 on the net but never know what the proper buy in amount is. Also does NL make any difference when buying in. Any pointer would be appreciate.Thx Kevin Link to post Share on other sites
fleung22 1 Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 Hi All,On of the biggest problems I have when going to play ring games is, what amount should I buy in for. I usually play $ 3/6 live and like to play$1/2 on the net but never know what the proper buy in amount is. Also does NL make any difference when buying in. Any pointer would be appreciate.Thx KevinFirst post eh? Welcome.Doesn't really matter for limit. You can come to the table with whatever although minimum is usually 10 times the BB. I'd say buy-in for at least 25 BB but I usually prefer 40 BB myself.Playing NL makes a huge difference. If you're in a $1-2 NL game and have $40 on the table and make top pair with top kicker you'll easily and comfortably go all-in most of the time if another player bets at you. But if you're in the same situation and have $500 you may have a tough decision ahead of you. Buy-in whatever you're going to be comfortable losing. Link to post Share on other sites
ROGUE06 0 Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 First post eh? Welcome.Doesn't really matter for limit. You can come to the table with whatever although minimum is usually 10 times the BB. I'd say buy-in for at least 25 BB but I usually prefer 40 BB myself.Playing NL makes a huge difference. If you're in a $1-2 NL game and have $40 on the table and make top pair with top kicker you'll easily and comfortably go all-in most of the time if another player bets at you. But if you're in the same situation and have $500 you may have a tough decision ahead of you. Buy-in whatever you're going to be comfortable losing.I totally agree, what you buy in for at a NL table is very important. Don't buy in for max if you're not comfortable losing it. It really can suck sometimes when you wish you bought in for less since sometimes you can be faced with an all in decision and the only thing holding you back is the large sum you have left and are certain you want to use in case you don't actually have the best hand. Then there are other occasions when you wish you had more money on the table to get paid off. I would guess sometimes it is best not to buy in for max if you don't feel like gambling and the table is completely wild and be faced with overbetting the pot and suffering all in decisions alot. I really do want to hear more insight on this since it is a total leak to my strategy towards NL ring games. Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 Hi All,On of the biggest problems I have when going to play ring games is, what amount should I buy in for. I usually play $ 3/6 live and like to play$1/2 on the net but never know what the proper buy in amount is. Also does NL make any difference when buying in. Any pointer would be appreciate.Thx Kevinbuy in for 20x - 25x the BB. in limit u always want to be able to cap every street and in NL., buy in for max., if there is no max, buy in for what you're comfortable with.If you feel like you're a donkeywith no skills, buy in for the min and push preflop Link to post Share on other sites
FourFlusher 0 Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 NL=No IdeaLimit...I'm a 30x SB kinda guy, minimum.When I play 3/6 I buy in for a hundred, one rack, makes it easy.2/4 I generally buy a rack, too. It gives me plenty of room, and, it's just an easy thing to do, buying a rack at a time. It even makes it easier to keep track of where you are, you only have to remember one number, $100...at a time, lol.I get annoyed sometimes when guys buy in a 3/6 for $30 trying to get lucky. No real reason to get annoyed, it doesn't give them an advantage, in fact it's probably a disadvantage because they either have to be playing scared, or, be splashing chips around trying to score early. And, it's kinda fun to watch them buy in over and over. Still, it annoys me, lol. Link to post Share on other sites
thrillsoft 0 Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 There is absolutely no reason not to buy in for the max in a NL game. If you don't have the skills or the stomach to play with a full buy-in at that level, then move down a level or two.Reasons:You can't protect your good (yet vulnerable) hands if the other players know that the most its going to cost them to get to the river or show down their marginal + drawing hand is a pot sized bet on the flop. If you don't have the weight to let them know that its going to be VERY expensive for them to chase their draws, then you're begging for trouble.When you have the nuts, you can't get paid what its worth.You severely limit your implied odds when playing your draws. Most often, you're eliminating many hands to continue with when if you had bought in for the max you could and should be continuing with them.Royal_Tour is right. If you're a complete donk and don't know how to play. Just buy in for the minimum and put it all in pre-flop. Otherwise, buy in for the max and give yourself the ability to actually play good poker and get paid for it. Link to post Share on other sites
Superkk 0 Posted March 30, 2006 Author Share Posted March 30, 2006 Ya, I would say I am an average NL player so I guess buying in the limit would give me more play.Does the looseness of a table make a dfferance? Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 Ya, I would say I am an average NL player so I guess buying in the limit would give me more play.Does the looseness of a table make a dfferance?no differance, but it does make a difference Link to post Share on other sites
sixhands 0 Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 no differance, but it does make a differencewell spotted Royal Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 There is absolutely no reason not to buy in for the max in a NL game. If you don't have the skills or the stomach to play with a full buy-in at that level, then move down a level or two.Reasons:You can't protect your good (yet vulnerable) hands if the other players know that the most its going to cost them to get to the river or show down their marginal + drawing hand is a pot sized bet on the flop. If you don't have the weight to let them know that its going to be VERY expensive for them to chase their draws, then you're begging for trouble.When you have the nuts, you can't get paid what its worth.You severely limit your implied odds when playing your draws. Most often, you're eliminating many hands to continue with when if you had bought in for the max you could and should be continuing with them.Royal_Tour is right. If you're a complete donk and don't know how to play. Just buy in for the minimum and put it all in pre-flop. Otherwise, buy in for the max and give yourself the ability to actually play good poker and get paid for it.Some excellent points, sir. Link to post Share on other sites
AAsnake88 0 Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 2/5 yes, buy in normally $500. 2/10 I've never seen. Link to post Share on other sites
Superkk 0 Posted March 30, 2006 Author Share Posted March 30, 2006 What a 2/5 spread or 2/10 spread?Of so does NL make a difference. Sorry im not a great speller like you.Oh any grammar pointers? Link to post Share on other sites
2bthebest 2 Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 Limit --Buy in for 40-50 BBN.L. -- Buy in for the Max or enough to cover the person at the table with the most money. Link to post Share on other sites
slash 0 Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 Limit --Buy in for 40-50 BBBuying into a $5-10 game with $500? That's just dumb. What's the point? That's like wearing sunglasses and a hoodie, I think.Do you do that because you are a loser in the game but want to make it look like you're "up" above a normal sized buy in?~25 BB, 30 is plenty. Never start a hand with less than 12 BB in front of you (assuming streets are capped at 4 bets). Link to post Share on other sites
ricker 0 Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 I've always had a system that seemed to work out OK for me...it's prolly a little too much at some limits and not enough at others.For limit hold 'em2/4: $603/6: $100 (or a rack)4/8: $100 weird I know, but if I need more, I'll buy it.5/10: $25010/20: $35020/40: $500 (most convienent on this limit for me, I realize it's not that much, but it works for me)30/60: $800 (but I only played this once and played like a scared Donk)No Limit I always buy in for the max, no matter what the level, I want enough room to manuever if I need it. Link to post Share on other sites
FourFlusher 0 Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 Limit --Buy in for 40-50 BBN.L. -- Buy in for the Max or enough to cover the person at the table with the most money.$300 to sit down at a $3/$6?Way too much. A rack is plenty. I never saw anybody buy in for three racks, ever.Rack out, yes, in? Nope. Link to post Share on other sites
srblan 0 Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 There is absolutely no reason not to buy in for the max in a NL game. If you don't have the skills or the stomach to play with a full buy-in at that level, then move down a level or two.There's at least one reason that I can think of. If you're playing in an NL game without a max, it's very hard to buyin for the max. I've sat in 1-2 games before where a guy bought in for 10 grand. It would be pretty tough for me to cover him there.You can bet anywhere in between..so 2/10 spread you can bet 2-10 dollars, but I've never played it so I don't know how it works as far as betting preflop flop vs turn and river. Does any of that make sense?? I'm hopeless..sorry!EDIT: what I really meant to say is I have no ideal what I'm talking about, so someone else down there help me out..LOLI'd suggest buying into the 2-10 game like one would buy into a 5-10 game. Spread limit is a weird animal though, so less might be sufficient.$300 to sit down at a $3/$6?Way too much. A rack is plenty. I never saw anybody buy in for three racks, ever.Rack out, yes, in? Nope.I have, but they looked like an idiot buying that much. Link to post Share on other sites
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