I Called In Sick Today

[KDawgCometh 2]

Okay, this I get. It's a pretty good plan of action.And I already cut it out of the quote but I agree about the dirty slut thing. Diseases and/or parasites are not worth it.

well, good girls can have diseases too. What defines a dirty slut as opposed to a regular slut. Granted, there have been girls that I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole, but that had less to do with their slutiness then it had to do with the fact that they were basically worthless as human beings

[renaedawn 1]

Yes, good girls can have diseases too which is why condoms should ALWAYS be used.But I understand what he's saying about some girls (or guys) being just too skanky to be fuckable. Like Keith, for me this usually has less to do with actual medical histories and more to do with personality.

[zimmer4141 0]

Yes, good girls can have diseases too which is why condoms should ALWAYS be used.But I understand what he's saying about some girls (or guys) being just too skanky to be fuckable. Like Keith, for me this usually has less to do with actual medical histories and more to do with personality.

Basically here are the upside and downside to going to Michigan.Good- Almost none of the girls are going to be "dirty sluts" in the sense that they are good for nothing but an orifice for my penis.Bad- You need what we call "Michigan Vision". Basically any girl that isn't 200+ lbs is fuckable. The girl in question from last weekend that I might have gotten some from was definitely in the "wolf ugly" zone.

[mrdannyg 274]

well, good girls can have diseases too. What defines a dirty slut as opposed to a regular slut. Granted, there have been girls that I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole, but that had less to do with their slutiness then it had to do with the fact that they were basically worthless as human beings

yeah, i'm not too worried about diseases.to me, the general dirtiness line has to do with their self-confidence. i know many slutty girls who are smart and have simply decided to have some fun. they're comfortable with sleeping with a lot of people. good for them.dirty sluts are ones who do it for a variety of less pleasant reasons - generally to make up for a lack of self-confidence.

[strategy 4]

Really? Even if you're a virgin? Cause I can't imagine not wanting to know what it's like to have sex regardless of the circumstances.

I'm a virgin with standards. How do you think I got to be a 20 year old virgin?

[mrdannyg 274]

Basically here are the upside and downside to going to Michigan.Good- Almost none of the girls are going to be "dirty sluts" in the sense that they are good for nothing but an orifice for my penis.Bad- You need what we call "Michigan Vision". Basically any girl that isn't 200+ lbs is fuckable. The girl in question from last weekend that I might have gotten some from was definitely in the "wolf ugly" zone.

that's actually an interesting dynamic, since my situation is more or less opposite.there are 8 universities and colleges in the area, and only one has moderately decent requirements. lots and lots of dirty sluts.

[kers2 0]

Basically here are the upside and downside to going to Michigan.Good- Almost none of the girls are going to be "dirty sluts" in the sense that they are good for nothing but an orifice for my penis.Bad- You need what we call "Michigan Vision". Basically any girl that isn't 200+ lbs is fuckable. The girl in question from last weekend that I might have gotten some from was definitely in the "wolf ugly" zone.

I laughed at "wolf ugly"So now I want the complete chart of Zim's hotness-ugliness zones

[renaedawn 1]

I'm a virgin with standards. How do you think I got to be a 20 year old virgin?

Honestly? And I don't know you, but before this conversation I would have said lack of confidence or self esteem.Again, that might be colored by being a girl, in that a girl can always get laid if she wants to bad enough. I am willing to examine the possibility that I might be wrong about that.

[zimmer4141 0]

I laughed at "wolf ugly"So now I want the complete chart of Zim's hotness-ugliness zones

Here is my chart, it is similar to the ladder theory. (The colors aren't really something I use, just something I did here.)Green Zone- Girls that I want to fuck but are waaaay out of my league. These are often girls that I would want more than a one night stand from, but that would be more than acceptable.Blue Zone- Girls that I would fuck sober. These girls are attractive, might potentially be out of my league, but aren't girls that I want to fuck, just girls that I would given the opportunity.Yellow Zone- Girls that I would fuck drunk and admit to it. The girls in this category are generally either a bit chunky or butterfaces. You would wake up in the morning, say meh, I was drunk, and it wasn't that bad.Orange Zone- Girls that I would fuck drunk and try to make sure nobody found out. This is if I am really drunk, they're not attractive at all, you know the type. They're ugly, but not ugly enough where if someone found out you would get ripped on for it everyday, but still ugly enough where you don't want your friends to know.Red Zone- These girls are the bottom 5% of female specimen. They often have some sort of physical deformity or large weight problem. I would rather cut open my leg and pour Bacardi 151 on the wound than fuck these girls.

Honestly? And I don't know you, but before this conversation I would have said lack of confidence or self esteem.Again, that might be colored by being a girl, in that a girl can always get laid if she wants to bad enough. I am willing to examine the possibility that I might be wrong about that.

Unless a girl falls in my Red Zone, I'm fairly sure they can get laid any night they want. If a girl makes sexual advances on a guy and the guy is available and moderately interested, he will not say no. I'm not sure if the same applies the other way around.

[KDawgCometh 2]

I'm a virgin with standards. How do you think I got to be a 20 year old virgin?

yea, well, standards shouldn't exist. THe only reason I have had a 7 year drought is cause of my own paranoia when I operated on teh other side of the law for a good 5 1/2 years. But, now that I'm back in the game, it has been a lot harder since I'm in my mid 20s and out of a college enviornment where girls are always around

Hmmm, I'm not so sure I agree with that. Men like to have sex with virgins as some sort of male ego boost. I'm not so sure that can be said for women. Like Renae said, we like to have mind blowing sex. Unfortunately, an inexperienced guy generally doesn't last long enough for that to happen.

this is true, but I would be willing to bet that a very large amount of girls would like the thought of being special enough to be a guy's first, especially if he has held out for a long time. I may be off a bit on that thought though

[strategy 4]

Honestly? And I don't know you, but before this conversation I would have said lack of confidence or self esteem.Again, that might be colored by being a girl, in that a girl can always get laid if she wants to bad enough. I am willing to examine the possibility that I might be wrong about that.

Self-confidence is certainly an issue for me when it comes to girls, but I have turned down sex that would have been socially acceptable. If you don't count the fact that she was "wolf ugly."

[KDawgCometh 2]

I dunno, if we're just talking about a one night stand, I think women want more than a 2 pump chump. If we're talking about getting serious, then yes, I can see your point.

heh, well, I don't think that any guy would care all that much about his performance on a one night stand. As long as ur fairly drunk, whisky/beer dick can always be used an excuse

[mrdannyg 274]

heh, well, I don't think that any guy would care all that much about his performance on a one night stand. As long as ur fairly drunk, whisky/beer dick can always be used an excuse

i question this. if you're not doing it for good sex, why are you doing it? to tell your friends? to feel cooler about yourself?frankly, i have an extremely high opinion of myself, so those two things don't matter to much to me.i think lolli is bang on (bahahaha) - women want a guy who'll fuc.k them good. someone like renae might like a young'en, but i think that is because she has some experience and is interested in branching out.it can't be a guy's "special first time" and also a one night stand, since the latter is not special. I see what you're saying with this, but that is a relationship thing more than a fuc.k thing, and relationships are different.

[KDawgCometh 2]

i question this. if you're not doing it for good sex, why are you doing it? to tell your friends? to feel cooler about yourself?frankly, i have an extremely high opinion of myself, so those two things don't matter to much to me.i think lolli is bang on (bahahaha) - women want a guy who'll fuc.k them good. someone like renae might like a young'en, but i think that is because she has some experience and is interested in branching out.it can't be a guy's "special first time" and also a one night stand, since the latter is not special. I see what you're saying with this, but that is a relationship thing more than a fuc.k thing, and relationships are different.

yea, seriously, the bolded portion is silly. No girl is too good for a guy and no guy is too good for a girl. Trying to make a first time special is kinda silly too IMO as once you get to a certain point, you just need to get it over with. Feeling better about yourself also works, I mean, shit, you just got laid, how would you not feel better about yourself, and I don't know who your friends are, but all of mine usually like to brag when they have sex with a girl(now if it turns into a relationship, I don't need to hear it everytime). what it sounds like to me is that you and strategy are either putting yourselves on a pedestal or girls on a pedestal, both of which are just dumb IMO

[mrdannyg 274]

yea, seriously, the bolded portion is silly. No girl is too good for a guy and no guy is too good for a girl. Trying to make a first time special is kinda silly too IMO as once you get to a certain point, you just need to get it over with. Feeling better about yourself also works, I mean, shit, you just got laid, how would you not feel better about yourself, and I don't know who your friends are, but all of mine usually like to brag when they have sex with a girl(now if it turns into a relationship, I don't need to hear it everytime). what it sounds like to me is that you and strategy are either putting yourselves on a pedestal or girls on a pedestal, both of which are just dumb IMO

sorry, i didn't mean i am better than any girls, just that i have such a high opinion of myself that sleeping with a girl wouldn't make my self-value any higher. i'd do it because it felt good, and/or for a new experience.my friends brag about sex too, but i guess they feel differently about it then i do. i guess i put myself on a pedestal, though not in the dbag way of thinking i'm better than girls, just that my opinion of myself is such that getting laid wouldn't really raise it.i guess that's a bit stupid, but not much.

[KDawgCometh 2]

just that i have such a high opinion of myself that sleeping with a girl wouldn't make my self-value any higher. i'd do it because it felt good, and/or for a new experience.

I would be willing to bet that this trane of thought may prevent you from meeting some great girls, it did for me when i used to think like that

[zimmer4141 0]

Right now, I'm not looking for any commitment. If that happens then it's fine, but right now I'm just going out to parties, primary goal is to get drunk and have fun. If I get laid, that's a bonus. If I don't, at least I still had fun. I don't have a goal of getting laid because then I would feel like any night where I didn't was a failure. I know it's gonna happen, so I'm not gonna worry about it and just let it happen.

[DrawingDeadInDM 0]

Allright, Virgins, I'm gonna give you all the secret of my success when it comes to skanks. You must be reasonably drunk, and hopefully she's wasted, too..and vulnerable.. and emotionally unstable.. and prefferably a victim of child abuse.Ready?"I could see myself marrying a girl like you."

[mrdannyg 274]

I'm not sure I follow this discussion anymore. Are you guys looking to get laid or looking for a relationship? You don't need one to have the other.I understand you guys don't want it to be with "wolf girl", but I can't imagine not being able to find someone who would be "suitable" enough for you.

I'd prefer a relationship right now, but i'm really not pushing anything. as for the latter half, i can say that being short, unassuming and somewhat cowardly, it's harder than you think. also, 'looking' is not really accurate.

I would be willing to bet that this trane of thought may prevent you from meeting some great girls, it did for me when i used to think like that

you may be pretty much right. i think i'm meeting just as many girls as i otherwise would, but i may not get to know them as well, or in as many ways, as i would if i had different intentions.actually, many of the worries/problems with my stance were more significant a few months ago. recently, i've become pretty outgoing and open-minded, and made a lot of progress. there's no question that if i continued how i was, i probably wouldn't get laid until i married at 34, or that if i was always like i am now, we wouldn't be having virgin discussions.thanks for humouring me tonight folks, i found the discussion interesting. although i feel bad contributing to the lack of efforts people put in catching up.

You must be reasonably drunk, and hopefully she's wasted, too..and vulnerable.. and emotionally unstable.. and prefferably a victim of child abuse.

bahahaha. i actually used that line once, and it probably cost me some sex. i hate it when people ignore causality just because its uncomfortable.no way would this girl have slept with me if she wasn't compensating for childhood issues. but nooo, everyone gets all pissed when i point it out.

[KDawgCometh 2]

Allright, Virgins, I'm gonna give you all the secret of my success when it comes to skanks. You must be reasonably drunk, and hopefully she's wasted, too..and vulnerable.. and emotionally unstable.. and prefferably a victim of child abuseReady?"I could see myself marrying a girl like you."

lindsey?o man, that was a bit low, I'm sorry erik

Right now, I'm not looking for any commitment. If that happens then it's fine, but right now I'm just going out to parties, primary goal is to get drunk and have fun. If I get laid, that's a bonus. If I don't, at least I still had fun. I don't have a goal of getting laid because then I would feel like any night where I didn't was a failure. I know it's gonna happen, so I'm not gonna worry about it and just let it happen.

this is the right attitude to have

[mrdannyg 274]

this is the right attitude to have

i'll agree with everyone and say that zim has the right attitude, but i'll also point out that i had the same attitude through 4 years of university. i wasn't a party animal, but i went out my share, and had plenty of friends.i still lay 4:1 on zim.19 User(s) are reading this topic (17 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)2 Members: mrdannyg, strategyoh the mild coincidence irony

[renaedawn 1]

I dunno, if we're just talking about a one night stand, I think women want more than a 2 pump chump. If we're talking about getting serious, then yes, I can see your point.Edit..that was not to put down the virgins in here.

Special means diddly when you're just looking for a conquest.I'm sure some girls are into the virginity thing. I agree with Lori though that it's not nearly as coveted by women as it is by men.

i think lolli is bang on (bahahaha) - women want a guy who'll fuc.k them good. someone like renae might like a young'en, but i think that is because she has some experience and is interested in branching out.

Just to clear up a common misconception, Renae likes young. Young does not equal virgin.That's not a slam of anybody here or their sexual prowess. I understand some chicks like the whole "teach them how you want them to be" and while I understand the logic in that, it doesn't appeal to me. I prefer someone just a touch more wild and experienced than myself. I wanna be pushed. I'm not sure how that colors my opinions on this subject but I'm sure it does.

[zimmer4141 0]

i'll agree with everyone and say that zim has the right attitude, but i'll also point out that i had the same attitude through 4 years of university. i wasn't a party animal, but i went out my share, and had plenty of friends.i still lay 4:1 on zim.19 User(s) are reading this topic (17 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)2 Members: mrdannyg, strategyoh the mild coincidence irony

Well, I think I have more of a desire to fuck some drunk slut than you did based on what I've heard from you.

[renaedawn 1]

yea, seriously, the bolded portion is silly. No girl is too good for a guy and no guy is too good for a girl. Trying to make a first time special is kinda silly too IMO as once you get to a certain point, you just need to get it over with. Feeling better about yourself also works, I mean, shit, you just got laid, how would you not feel better about yourself, and I don't know who your friends are, but all of mine usually like to brag when they have sex with a girl(now if it turns into a relationship, I don't need to hear it everytime). what it sounds like to me is that you and strategy are either putting yourselves on a pedestal or girls on a pedestal, both of which are just dumb IMO

Stop putting the pussy on a pedestal.Sorry, it had to be done.

[tyfgine 0]

Well, I think I have more of a desire to fuck some drunk slut than you did based on what I've heard from you.

shotgun anus!