was i wrong or not?

[dereeekho 0]

live at B&M. i wasn't in the handboard was 79Jx with two spades.EP bets $30, MP calls, CO pushes all-in for $53 total. EP wants to raise all-in, but i said out loud that he can't since it wasn't a complete raise. Dealer sides with me as both EP and MP calls. river was a 8 of spade, goes check-check. EP had two pair, CO rivered a flush and wins the pot. CO mucked.should i have just shut up and not say anything about it?

[alf13 0]

NO...you got the rule right...the dealer is an incompetent dikhead that shouldn't be allowed near a poker table.It would have been better if you got up and smacked the dealer in the face as you told him what was the correct ruling.

[Vatche 0]

u did nothing wrong...those are the rules, in fact...u did something right.

[Lee2k 0]

most river rock dealers suck and need guiding but i would stay out of it unless it was your friend or you

[Vatche 0]

most river rock dealers suck and need guiding but i would stay out of it unless it was your friend or you

its wise to always stay out of table talk when ur not in a hand, but not in this case...these are the rules of NL HE...if he stays out of it, God knows how many more times that jack ass of a dealer would make the wrong decision...this way, the dealer learns as well and the problem is solved.

[Ouch-8s 4]

Not that I'm going to defend RR dealers or anything but why are we jumping on the dealer here?OP stated that EP wants to raise, and dealer sided with OP. Not having been there, I don't know the order of events (maybe the dealer was going to let EP raise?) but the way I read it OP just said it out loud, before a dealer ruling?

[Royal_Tour 0]

theres no rules at B&M's, because you can grab all the chips you can and run like hell.thats how i've played for the last 5 years

[alf13 0]

theres no rules at B&M's, because you can grab all the chips you can and run like hell.thats how i've played for the last 5 years

If I called you a ball-licker would you get offended?

[dereeekho 0]

the dealer was about to ask MP whether she wants to call or not. i said out loud that he couldn't do that because it wasn't a complete raise. the dealer acknowledges that i was right, but i want to know if table etiquette dictates whether i should've just kept my mouth shut or not.PS it was at boulevard.

[Alex916F 0]

I think the ettiquette depends on the person from EP who wants to push. If the EP person is going to rebuy if he busts and come after you with a vendetta you need to make a decision whether you want that or not. If the guy is just going to get pissed because he didnt get to do what he wanted then lose the hand get up and leave what does it matter. You have to think about how the different decisions affect the game after the hand.

[dereeekho 0]

I think the ettiquette depends on the person from EP who wants to push. If the EP person is going to rebuy if he busts and come after you with a vendetta you need to make a decision whether you want that or not. If the guy is just going to get censored because he didnt get to do what he wanted then lose the hand get up and leave what does it matter. You have to think about how the different decisions affect the game after the hand.

1. EP had MP covered by a lot.2. I had 2x more than the buy in limit3. I was worried about a physical beating. That guy is 6'4" and big and I'm 5'7"

[Alex916F 0]

I think the ettiquette depends on the person from EP who wants to push. If the EP person is going to rebuy if he busts and come after you with a vendetta you need to make a decision whether you want that or not. If the guy is just going to get censored because he didnt get to do what he wanted then lose the hand get up and leave what does it matter. You have to think about how the different decisions affect the game after the hand.

1. EP had MP covered by a lot.2. I had 2x more than the buy in limit3. I was worried about a physical beating. That guy is 6'4" and big and I'm 5'7"

Then don't meddle. It doesn't seem to affect you at all.

[slash 0]

No, you're not wrong, Walter, you're just an asshole.

[finztotheleft 0]

I think the ettiquette depends on the person from EP who wants to push. If the EP person is going to rebuy if he busts and come after you with a vendetta you need to make a decision whether you want that or not. If the guy is just going to get censored because he didnt get to do what he wanted then lose the hand get up and leave what does it matter. You have to think about how the different decisions affect the game after the hand.

1. EP had MP covered by a lot.2. I had 2x more than the buy in limit3. I was worried about a physical beating. That guy is 6'4" and big and I'm 5'7"

If he got pissed for having to play by the rules, EP is an a@@. I could see getting pissed if someone uninvolved in the hand goaded another player into calling or folding on me, but not for someone reminding the dealer of the rules. The only thing that might prevent me from saying anything is if I didn't want the table to know that I was knowledgable. I play the ditzy blond quite well when it's convenient.

[DrawingDeadInDM 0]

Eh.I don't think you're some great American hero for saying something, but I don't think you're wrong if you say nothing.I really don't like to fuck with other people's pots when I'm not involved--doesn't mean it's right, doesn't mean it's wrong. Some people really need to take a course in basic rules. If I see this shit again..I'll flip..Live 1/2UTG says, "Make it 7 all day.."UTG+2 says, "Make it 12 straight.."Jackass from CO who watches too much TV says, "HE HAS TO MAKE IT 14! YOU HAVE TO AT LEAST DOUBLE THE BET! 7 x 2 IS 14, HELLO?"..don't be that guy./rant

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live at B&M. i wasn't in the handboard was 79Jx with two spades.EP bets $30, MP calls, CO pushes all-in for $53 total. EP wants to raise all-in, but i said out loud that he can't since it wasn't a complete raise. Dealer sides with me as both EP and MP calls. river was a 8 of spade, goes check-check. EP had two pair, CO rivered a flush and wins the pot. CO mucked.should i have just shut up and not say anything about it?

When I first read your post i thought you said "I live at B&M." For a second I completely envied you.

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Is that wrong?

[dereeekho 0]

quite the opposite. i rarely go, as i prefer to play in home game STT.

[SpeedKills 0]

not wrong in what you did, but some guys will get really piss ed at you and start flipping out.

[offset 0]

quite the opposite. i rarely go, as i prefer to play in home game STT.

Cojoined toilets should be separated at birth!

[dereeekho 0]

quite the opposite. i rarely go, as i prefer to play in home game STT.

Cojoined toilets should be separated at birth!

maybe it wass custom made for greg raymar?

[Jelly-Filled Ace 1]

live at B&M. i wasn't in the handboard was 79Jx with two spades.EP bets $30, MP calls, CO pushes all-in for $53 total. EP wants to raise all-in, but i said out loud that he can't since it wasn't a complete raise. Dealer sides with me as both EP and MP calls. river was a 8 of spade, goes check-check. EP had two pair, CO rivered a flush and wins the pot. CO mucked.should i have just shut up and not say anything about it?

Well I can't say your wrong for the simple reason I don't know the rules of where you play but in the casino I play in the EP certainly would've been allowed to raise and here's why:CO's raise was more than 50% of the original bet and would be accepted as a wager. All wagers get acted upon in order with a completion or a legal raise.Had the CO went all-in with 44.00 (30 to call - 14 to raise) his raise would have been less than 50% and should be announced as an all-in and only completion bets would be permitted.

[fmlycar 0]

live at B&M.  i wasn't in the handboard was 79Jx with two spades.EP bets $30, MP calls, CO pushes all-in for $53 total.  EP wants to raise all-in, but i said out loud that he can't since it wasn't a complete raise.  Dealer sides with me as both EP and MP calls.  river was a 8 of spade, goes check-check.  EP had two pair, CO rivered a flush and wins the pot.  CO mucked.should i have just shut up and not say anything about it?

Well I can't say your wrong for the simple reason I don't know the rules of where you play but in the casino I play in the EP certainly would've been allowed to raise and here's why:CO's raise was more than 50% of the original bet and would be accepted as a wager. All wagers get acted upon in order with a completion or a legal raise.Had the CO went all-in with 44.00 (30 to call - 14 to raise) his raise would have been less than 50% and should be announced as an all-in and only completion bets would be permitted.

there is a competant person on this forum

[pckt10s 0]

check the new av.

[spikymarv99 0]

the dealer was about to ask MP whether she wants to call or not.  i said out loud that he couldn't do that because it wasn't a complete raise.  the dealer acknowledges that i was right, but i want to know if table etiquette dictates whether i should've just kept my mouth shut or not.PS it was at boulevard.

It honestly depends on the players. There are some scary characters at Commerce; the type where I keep my mouth shut. Some people will jump across a table and break your jaw for something like that. You never know how the person will react. It's the job of the dealer to regulate a game and players can certainly intervene if a mistake is made. However, you should be more careful because you never know what a person will do... either at the moment or after they follow you to your car.