limit hold'em heads up?

[dna4ever 2]

ok then. i rescind my previous statements. limit hold em is great. its not boring at all. to watch and to play. in fact, i feel like coming every time i play

Stop being an idiot. You wonder why something you said got flamed. My view on the matter is this. If you post almost SEVEN HUNDRED times in barely a month's time, do you really think that all of those posts have any quality to them? If you post something stupid, as you did, you should expect to get called out on it. Do you realize that if you posted the above in the first place, no one would have flamed you? Make sense?You said "limit hold em is the most boring form of poker. dont play it, seriously. youll bore ure asss off with it"Any person with an IQ of at least 43 can see that based on your remark, you have no clue about any aspect of limit hold 'em. Why would you post in a thread about limit hold em when you have no clue? Also, you are not ronmexico. the "i feel like coming every time i play" is juvenile. Keep trying buddy. You'll get there.

official up your post count thread so go fuc ureself. and btw before anyone says it, i didnt invent the up your post count thread, some other guy did, and i only went there because one of you guys recommended it to me in a thread, because someone said i didnt know anything being a newbie and all. so go fuc ureself dic

DNA? Translation again, please.

Sorry man, My translator freaked out this time and is locked up on this picture ....

[Jeepster80125 0]

fuc this censored. i dont know why i bothered. i say one thing and you all jump on my back. you can all go fuc off. im deactivating this account. this is total censored. hey bwaves gl. the rest of ya.................. later

I had to laugh at this. Not at what he said, but because he reminds me of Tritz crying around and telling everyone he was leaving. And he's back. Tritz, how about a bump for us? Come say hello. Zedd, I'm sure we will see you around. There is no way that you can post seven hundred times in a month and just go away. Are you embarassed enough to delete your account and start fresh with NamblaRep as your handle? I'll wait here while you google NAMBLA, okay?

[HoosierAlum 0]

Just play No Limit. ITS THE CADALLAC OF POKER!!!!!!! ONLY PURE GAME LEFT!!!!!!!

[FishtankHank 0]

ok then. i rescind my previous statements. limit hold em is great. its not boring at all. to watch and to play. in fact, i feel like coming every time i play

WOOAAAAH!

[grgimpy 0]

fuc this censored. i dont know why i bothered. i say one thing and you all jump on my back. you can all go fuc off. im deactivating this account. this is total censored. hey bwaves gl. the rest of ya.................. later

it never ceases to amaze me how people can get so worked up about what people say about them on the INTERNET. the fact that you can put people on tilt in online poker and apparently in forums by saying these things to them makes me shake my head...

[ShakeZuma 585]

fuc this censored. i dont know why i bothered. i say one thing and you all jump on my back. you can all go fuc off. im deactivating this account. this is total censored. hey bwaves gl. the rest of ya.................. later

I had to laugh at this. Not at what he said, but because he reminds me of Tritz crying around and telling everyone he was leaving. And he's back. Tritz, how about a bump for us? Come say hello. Zedd, I'm sure we will see you around. There is no way that you can post seven hundred times in a month and just go away. Are you embarassed enough to delete your account and start fresh with NamblaRep as your handle? I'll wait here while you google NAMBLA, okay?

holy living fuck, how in gods name is there an organization out there like that?I just googled it and I feel dirty just for that

[Jeepster80125 0]

fuc this censored. i dont know why i bothered. i say one thing and you all jump on my back. you can all go fuc off. im deactivating this account. this is total censored. hey bwaves gl. the rest of ya.................. later

I had to laugh at this. Not at what he said, but because he reminds me of Tritz crying around and telling everyone he was leaving. And he's back. Tritz, how about a bump for us? Come say hello. Zedd, I'm sure we will see you around. There is no way that you can post seven hundred times in a month and just go away. Are you embarassed enough to delete your account and start fresh with NamblaRep as your handle? I'll wait here while you google NAMBLA, okay?

holy living fuck, how in gods name is there an organization out there like that?I just googled it and I feel dirty just for that

PM Zedd and ask where the sign up sheet is.

[ricker 0]

This is the funniest thread I've seen in awhile. I just never can get over seeing people who get so pissed about being made fun of on an INTERNET forum. You'd think while growing up, they'd have a bit more thicker skin.

[RayPowers 0]

Trying desperately to get this thread back on track..I noticed that DC mentioned that with that run of cards from last night, he would have lost "a lot more to" a different player, and that the popular consensus was that this is looked bad for Daniel.Now, I am not good at heads up, so this next comment may sound dumb, but I want to generate discussion and learn.Why is this a bad thing? This honestly seems like a style thing. Daniel is probably taking less risks, and therfor the pots may not be as large as they may be against another, more maniacal player. This seems more style than anything else. Some people are better playing looser, some better playing tighter. The fact that the comparison was done to a player who DC then busted on Poker Room, to me, serves to only validate that point. Perhaps Daniel was much better at controlling pot sizes, so, while his income from that run of cards was lower, he also is facing less risk, and a slower, but likely more profitable grind.Note, that I don't *KNOW* this, and I'm not good enough at HU to really say Daniel was doing that or not, I'm just looking for actual discussion amogst the flame fest.Ray

[JSHamm 9]

Trying desperately to get this thread back on track..I noticed that DC mentioned that with that run of cards from last night, he would have lost "a lot more to" a different player, and that the popular consensus was that this is looked bad for Daniel.Now, I am not good at heads up, so this next comment may sound dumb, but I want to generate discussion and learn.Why is this a bad thing? This honestly seems like a style thing. Daniel is probably taking less risks, and therfor the pots may not be as large as they may be against another, more maniacal player. This seems more style than anything else. Some people are better playing looser, some better playing tighter. The fact that the comparison was done to a player who DC then busted on Poker Room, to me, serves to only validate that point. Perhaps Daniel was much better at controlling pot sizes, so, while his income from that run of cards was lower, he also is facing less risk, and a slower, but likely more profitable grind.Note, that I don't *KNOW* this, and I'm not good enough at HU to really say Daniel was doing that or not, I'm just looking for actual discussion amogst the flame fest.Ray

Basically, the argument is DN wasn't pushing his good hands hard enough. DreamClown barely folded and was going to the river with anything. Whether DN had a good hand or marginal hand, he was playing them passively either way.The opinions expressed in this commentary are not soley reflective of those of the poster. Only two animals were injured during the process of this post, one is healing nicely, the other made for good lunch.

[RayPowers 0]

Basically, the argument is DN wasn't pushing his good hands hard enough.  DreamClown barely folded and was going to the river with anything.  Whether DN had a good hand or marginal hand, he was playing them passively either way.

Yeah, but pushing good hands and passively playing marginal hands = "easy to read." Passively playing both seems like it makes it harder to read him, and less risk on the marginal hands. Again, I am not a Heads Up guy, I'm just trying to understand this...Ray

[JSHamm 9]

Basically, the argument is DN wasn't pushing his good hands hard enough.  DreamClown barely folded and was going to the river with anything.  Whether DN had a good hand or marginal hand, he was playing them passively either way.

Yeah, but pushing good hands and passively playing marginal hands = "easy to read." Passively playing both seems like it makes it harder to read him, and less risk on the marginal hands. Again, I am not a Heads Up guy, I'm just trying to understand this...Ray

That would make a lot of sense, but, at least to me, it didn't seem like DC was even reading anything at all, just pushing the pot aggressively. He did slow down later in the evening and seemed to make more concious decisions, but early on it was raise raise raise.. Instead of re-raising, DN called down.I don't know, I'm not a high limit player or any kind of HU specialist so I don't know what goes on. It's just what's being said.

[blueodum 0]

DC can say anything he wants, but the only thing that can determine right or wrong is who ends up plus and who minus after they've played at least 100 000 hands.And to poster who talked about hating LHE because of variance... It's not clear to me there is more variance in LHE than NLHE (I've not played NLHE cash games extensively); someone more knowledgable can assess that.But the larger point is that variance is your friend. Without the occasional winning session, the suckers would not keep coming back. If there were little variance, the suckers would constantly lose, and lose interest as a result. If you can't handle the swings you shouldn't be playing any form of poker for meaningful stakes.

[microtech 0]

As a fairly new player I have found that LHE is much more interesting and challenging than NLHE. I started out playing NL exclusively but have found that LHE offers me more oppurtunity to develop skills that I am lacking. In NL, like previously stated small mistakes can be masked as long as a big mistake is avoided. LHE puts more of a premium on hand selection and positional play. I have found that when I play my best poker is when I play LHE because it requires more thought to maximize winnings instead of waiting for that one big hand. JMO.

[The Czar 0]

For limit players, would you suggest a limit beginner (although I'm a NL vet) start at a full table, shorthanded or directly to heads up? There's a lot of talk about playing position in limit, but isn't position to the blinds more important in no limit because of the blind stealing capabilities?

[InertGrudge 0]

Just play No Limit. ITS THE CADALLAC OF POKER!!!!!!! ONLY PURE GAME LEFT!!!!!!!

I laughed real hard when I read this.

[oceansize 0]

Czar, starting limit players, play a bigger table. Bigger the better, lower limit the better. Sit in a game and pay attention to the flow of the game and position, who are the aggressive ones, who are the passive ones, who is bluffing too much...You'll learn more from that than at a short handed game and probably end up less disadvantaged at a HU game (which favors the more experienced).Los

[The Czar 0]

Thanks for the advice, Oceanside. Limit holdem is the only game I've yet to try, so I might as well give it a shot. I am super aggressive, so I think NL suits me a little more, but I guess I'll find out.

[The Czar 0]

Thanks for the advice, Oceanside. Limit holdem is the only game I've yet to try, so I might as well give it a shot. I am super aggressive, so I think NL suits me a little more, but I guess I'll find out.

[Emptyeye 0]

I agree, start with the full ring games, the closer to 10-handed, the better. For me personally, this is primarily because I'm the dreaded "math guy", and the relative size of the pots allows me to apply said math--"okay, I'm getting the odds todraw to my flush"...."whoops, not enough in the pot to chase my gutshot", and my personal favorite, "Well, I'm not QUITE getting the odds to see a turn and try to boat up, but I can make it up if I do hit....*turn is the third of what's in my hand, which combined with the board pairing gives me a boat* YES BET RAISE RERAISE CAAAAAAAAAAP!" Short handed, I'll almost never get the pure pot odds to be chasing much of anything.;)Seriously, I do far better in ring games than shorthanded. I've never actually tried heads-up, but I imagine I'd just start hemorraging chips at a frightening rate.

[wax120 0]

Hey Czar. I named my fantasy team "Straight Cash Homeys" in honor of that quote. I love that Moss interview.Oh yeah and about limit. Ever notice that the biggest game in the world is played with a limit structure? If you were a top cash game player and could deploy your time and effort anywhere you wanted, would you get involved in anything that could be regarded as "boring"?I'm just sayin'...