why playing poker for a living is clearly sinful

[japeto_mtg 0]

1. Bag boy2. Construction worker3. Lawer(if done prorperly)4. Doctor5. Accountant6. Fireman7. Teacher8. Writer9. Cook10. Computer programmerenjoy.

[japeto_mtg 0]

it doesnt matter the ammout u donate its how much of urself u give up, me giving 1,000 dollars to charity would mean more then barry donating a million.

[oreogod 0]

Do u realize that by u wanting Barry Greenstien to donate more and more money from his cash game u are asking him to do what u call unethical, TAKE PEOPLES MONEY.Playing poker for fun is making money.Playing poker for money is having fun.Awful said it much better, u sit at the table u accept the risk. By other people sitting at the table they are hoping to take your money so poker in general is a sinful game.This is what happens when a 2000 year old religion is still around in a modern society (please dont attack this), u have to take things out that no longer apply and apply the general messages. Its like a story or a movie, just take the theme and run with it.And u know if God is around, Im sure hed like poker if he didnt know every thing before hand, he#d be a mean opponent. Like playin a low limit playing, u wouldnt want to bluff him. Please post something next time that conforms logic.

[japeto_mtg 0]

once again it comes down to why u play poker if he was playing poker wiht the sole purpose to donate almost all of his winnings to charity thn it would be ok to play.

[Pupsta 0]

1. Bag boy2. Construction worker3. Lawer(if done prorperly)4. Doctor5. Accountant6. Fireman7. Teacher8. Writer9. Cook10. Computer programmerenjoy.

1) I'm bagging up the cookies and crisco that the obese will eat and possibly die from, thus helping along their heart attack. Sin?2) I could be building a brothel, a casino(!), or maybe a house for a child molester. Sin?3) Don't even really need to get into this one. 4) I'm charging the poor hundreds of thousands of dollars for operations they must have in order to live, but couldn't afford if they worked 80 hours a week for the rest of their lives at their current job, while I rake in big dough. Sin?5) I make money off of managing other sinners' money. Sin?6) Sin-free.7) Sin-free #2.8) I charge a lot of money per book, which is sapping off of entertainment costs. Sin.9) Similar to #1, I'm cooking up burgers for the obese to eat to help them along with their path of gluttony. Sin? 10) See the other poster about how computer programmers must be sinning because they're trying to make a faster computer to drive other computer businesses out of business, thus bankrupting innocent christians. Sin.

[oreogod 0]

Oh and please dont have kids, the last thing this world needs is spawn from your cesspool.

[Pupsta 0]

once again it comes down to why u play poker if he was playing poker wiht the sole purpose to donate almost all of his winnings to charity thn it would be ok to play.

Out of curiosity, if I rob a bank, and thousands of people go broke, but I donate every penny to the Red Cross to help out the tsunami victims, am I a sinner? I had good intentions!

[japeto_mtg 0]

any profession can be sinful if u do the wrong things in them, teacher- teach kids the wrong things that include ur personal bias, fireman makes a desision that he shoul save himself instead of someone else etc.

[Pupsta 0]

any profession can be sinful if u do the wrong things in them, teacher- teach kids the wrong things that include ur personal bias, fireman makes a desision that he shoul save himself instead of someone else etc.

So, if you play poker professionally you're sinning, but you don't have to donate almost all of your "profit" from teaching since it's a "real job"?

[Foulky 0]

It is great how strong you feel about your religious convictions. I am also a Christian but i wander why you write a post like this on a forum like this. Is it because you want more people to become Christians. If so then that is great but it seems like you're not going about it the right way. If you are not posting for this reason then you are passing harsh judgements on people who you have never met, and are generalizing and stereotyping. That sounds like a sin to me. It is not your job to pass judgement it is his. Try your best to help people, but do not critize those whose beliefs are different than yours.

[japeto_mtg 0]

once again it comes down to why u play poker if he was playing poker wiht the sole purpose to donate almost all of his winnings to charity thn it would be ok to play.

Out of curiosity, if I rob a bank, and thousands of people go broke, but I donate every penny to the Red Cross to help out the tsunami victims, am I a sinner? I had good intentions!

yes because you are robbing other people taking money that they didnt chose to donate. as for greenstien taking other peoples money that they didnt chose to donate, well its diffrent because they understand that greenstien might get ahold of there money, wile if u rob a bank the people had no idea.

[liveactiononly 0]

there are so many more important things in the world than figuring out if you are sinning or not. Who gives a dam. if you are poker player you know that you are just trying to make a living playing a game. Thats all it is, a game. Japeto, stop acting like a crusader because you play poker as well, and i gaurantee you felt dam good when you raked a big pot from that blind guy that didnt know how to play.

[Pupsta 0]

It is great how strong you feel about your religious convictions. I am also a Christian but i wander why you write a post like this on a forum like this. Is it because you want more people to become Christians. If so then that is great but it seems like you're not going about it the right way. If you are not posting for this reason then you are passing harsh judgements on people who you have never met, and are generalizing and stereotyping. That sounds like a sin to me. It is not your job to pass judgement it is his. Try your best to help people, but do not critize those whose beliefs are different than yours.

boom. that's the hammer whacking the nail.see japeto, even christians disagree with you. as I previously said, who the hell are you to pass judgment on anyone?

[Awful 0]

The only system to ever try to completely destroy inequalities and edges that people have over one another and abolish anyone taking from anyone else was both godless and a failure in meeting its ideal concepts.Also, any rebuttal to my prior post about informed consent and poker being just any other business in its treatment of those surrendering their money?

[japeto_mtg 0]

im not critisising people or accusing people of sinning, like i said u can play poker and not sin, its not like is aid danny G. was commiting a sin by playing poker. he may be or he may not be im sure he knows

[japeto_mtg 0]

poker professionals do not apply as an entertainer hbecause withou them the entertainment would continue. thatds the diffrence between them and say an actor.

[Atlas 0]

I'm sorry but I don't say much and have to respond to this one. Japeto when are you going to strap a bomb to your chest and "martyr" yourself you nut. Wake up! The era of religious persecution by our own ignorance is over. What you have to understand is that people living in this world today don't care about a sin or a tin or a fin for that matter. They care about making a living, something preachers don't have to do by the way because they SAP MONEY OUT OF PEOPLE FOR...YES ENTERTAINMENT.If everything not done for fun is a sin and we shouldn't sin then how do we sustain ourselves in this world? Sacrifice a goat and hope God gives us everlasting grain?

[japeto_mtg 0]

I'm sorry but I don't say much and have to respond to this one. Japeto when are you going to strap a bomb to your chest and "martyr" yourself you nut. Wake up! The era of religious persecution by our own ignorance is over. What you have to understand is that people living in this world today don't care about a sin or a tin or a fin for that matter. They care about making a living, something preachers don't have to do by the way because they SAP MONEY OUT OF PEOPLE FOR...YES ENTERTAINMENT.If everything not done for fun is a sin and we shouldn't sin then how do we sustain ourselves in this world? Sacrifice a goat and hope God gives us everlasting grain?

stupidest comment so far.

[Eskimo 0]

God put us on this earth to do something productive

Define productive.Chip Reese plays poker all the time and is able to support his family and send his kids to school. I'd call that productive. Same with Doyle, he supported his family through poker. Is that not productive?

[japeto_mtg 0]

no its not, because there productivety limits everyone else's productivity. Too be truely productive you AND society shoudl benefit.

[thegamesover 0]

In the United States we believe in Capitalism. Under that kind of economy people have the ability to strive to make as much money as they can. If someone creates a new product that becomes very popular, that person should be entitled to the profits. The business of proffessional sports only pays the athletes so much money because the sport as a whole generates that much money. People are willing to pay billions of dollars each year to watch various forms of entertainment, thus the people who provide that entertainment are entitled to the profits. Poker is exactly the same. To some people it is a business that they accell at. People are only able to make money off of it because other people are willing to give it to them. As long as the person is playing the game by the rules, how can it be wrong if one person consistantly wins. While it is true that some people dont realize the situation they get themselves into, they still made the choice to sit down at the poker table. Poker is just another form of capitalism.

[japeto_mtg 0]

capitalism is inherently sinful. anyways america isnt a true capitalist nation, ever heard of social security and welfare? these are socialist ideas.

[NUTTYMATT 0]

you are a nut

[KingAustin 0]

I am sinning right now at the 100$ NL 5 card stud game at prima.

WOW!!!! You're preaching about not sinning while playing poker, but you admit that you're sinning??? Dude, you are one of the biggest hypocrites ever!! Hey, how much of that bankroll are you going to donate? None, oh.. I see... you're an even bigger hypocrite now. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

[looshle 6]

Social security won't even be around by the time I am eligible for it.