Same Sex Marraige Breakdown Chart

[Roll the Bones 74]

[El Guapo 8]

I can see why this needed its own thread.

[Roll the Bones 74]

I didn't know where else to put it.

[Balloon guy 158]

I didn't know where else to put it.

I agreeWe really need a fact-less propaganda thread.

[brvheart 1,753]

This thread is worthless, let's change the subject.I heard about a study on families.If the mom is a church goer, but the dad never goes to church, only 1 in 50 children will be regular church goers when they are adults.If the dad is a church goer, but the mom never goes to church, 66% - 75% of the children will be regular church goers when they are adults.Why do you think this is? That is a massive massive difference.

[custom36 4]

This thread is worthless, let's change the subject.I heard about a study on families.If the mom is a church goer, but the dad never goes to church, only 1 in 50 children will be regular church goers when they are adults.If the dad is a church goer, but the mom never goes to church, 66% - 75% of the children will be regular church goers when they are adults.Why do you think this is? That is a massive massive difference.

Everybody hates their mothers, obviously.

[JubilantLankyLad 1,957]

Father Knows Best, obviously.

[Balloon guy 158]

Women don't really count,,,,,,,, obviously.

[vbnautilus 48]

Because people who go to church are on a quest to find their fathers.

[LongLiveYorke 38]

The religion gene is passed down by the father.(BTW, this was a joke answer)

[speedz99 145]

People are always trying to make dad proud of them. And they know mom will be more understanding if they don't follow in her footsteps.

[BaseJester 1]

Women don't really count,,,,,,,, obviously.

If a child goes to church and learns that women shouldn't even speak, and he learns this lesson well, how important will he hold his mother's opinion about anything?

[brvheart 1,753]

People are always trying to make dad proud of them. And they know mom will be more understanding if they don't follow in her footsteps.

I agree with this.

[ezelisko 0]

If a child goes to church and learns that women shouldn't even speak, and he learns this lesson well, how important will he hold his mother's opinion about anything?

+1

[Balloon guy 158]

Because people who go to church are on a quest to find their fathers.

Let's leave Obama and Clinton out of this discussion.

[Balloon guy 158]

If a child goes to church and learns that women shouldn't even speak, and he learns this lesson well, how important will he hold his mother's opinion about anything?

Well hopefully he will go beyond the shallow understanding of your average atheist and see what the Bible actually teaches.

[Skeleton Jelly 2]

If a child goes to church and learns that women shouldn't even speak, and he learns this lesson well, how important will he hold his mother's opinion about anything?

If the child goes to church and learns that the father is the head of the family then he will want to follow him, but then the father doesn't go to church, so the child follows his lead, which leads him to believe that the Bible isn't right about everything, so he stops blindly following the father, which leads him to listen to his mother who is going to church, so he starts going again, but then he remembers that the father is the head of the family...

[LongLiveYorke 38]

If the child goes to church and learns that the father is the head of the family then he will want to follow him, but then the father doesn't go to church, so the child follows his lead, which leads him to believe that the Bible isn't right about everything, so he stops blindly following the father, which leads him to listen to his mother who is going to church, so he starts going again, but then he remembers that the father is the head of the family...

You're from Australia, which is full of criminals, so I can't possibly drink from the cup in front of me. But, you'd know that I'd be aware of your history, so I can't possibly drink from the cup in front of you...

[colonel Feathers 5]

Gay marriage is codifying Gods sense of humor.

[BaseJester 1]

Well hopefully he will go beyond the shallow understanding of your average atheist and see what the Bible actually teaches.

Does what the bible "actually" teaches have anything to do with the words actually written in it? What sort of deep understanding makes this verse support the idea that a woman's opinion has the same value as a man's?

34 Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35 If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.

[timwakefield 68]

Because people who go to church are on a quest to find their fathers.

Let's leave Obama and Clinton out of this discussion.

Hahaha, it's funny because Bill Clinton's biological father tragically died before his son was even born! Hahaha! A real knee-slapper!

[Balloon guy 158]

Hahaha, it's funny because Bill Clinton's biological father tragically died before his son was even born! Hahaha! A real knee-slapper!

Thought he was just one of many guys his mother slept with. Like Obama's father was.You sure about that? For Bill I mean, we all know it was true of Stanley.Edit: Nope you were right...kind of:

He was born as one of nine children to William Jefferson Blythe, Sr. (1884-1935), a poor farmer in Sherman, Texas, and his wife Lou Birchie Ayers (1893–1946).[2]. In December 1935, shortly before his eighteenth birthday, he married Virginia Adele Gash. They divorced within 13 months. They had one son, Henry Leon Blythe, on January 17, 1938, who was conceived after their divorce. Henry later took the surname of his stepfather, Charles Ritzenthaler, after Gash and Blythe divorced.On December 29, 1940, Blythe married his first wife's sister, Fannie Maye Gash. This short lived marriage produced Sharon Lee Blythe (later Pettijohn), who was born on May 11, 1941.On May 3, 1941, he married for a third time in Jackson County, Missouri, to Wanetta Ellen Alexander of Kansas City. Their divorce became final on April 13, 1944.Blythe's fourth marriage took place on September 3, 1943, to Virginia Dell Cassidy. She became pregnant in late 1945, eventually giving birth to William Jefferson Blythe, later William Jefferson Clinton. Blythe died in a car crash before Bill was born, and Bill was raised by Roger Clinton, Sr.. Virginia did not learn of her husband's previous marriages until 50 years later

[Balloon guy 158]

Does what the bible "actually" teaches have anything to do with the words actually written in it? What sort of deep understanding makes this verse support the idea that a woman's opinion has the same value as a man's?

That verse has contextual meaning which clarifies it. Corinthians is a book written for instruction to pastors for their churches, and addresses specific problems some churches were having. They asked specific questions, and got specific answers. For instance one of teh questions they answered was regarding a man who was having an affair with his step mother. the answer is not to be applied to all relationships between men and women, to do so would be silly.Being so fresh from the Jewish faith, the Early Christians adopted many of the same traditions, one of which was separate sitting areas for men and women. Women would ask their husband questions about the service, and were disruptive, so they were commanded to shut their filthy mouths. In context, this verse completely has a different meaning than you are ascribing to it.But I understand why you guys like to pull it out of context. It fits your pre-conceived notions of what you already know to be true.That's why verses like this:

Galatians 3:28: "There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."

are consistent with the message of the New Testament. One that was radically pro-women when the culture literally had women one step above property.But again, just focus on the worst possible explanation, it will be repeated over and over again by many web sites filled with all the 'proof' that the Bible is racist, sexist and supports slavery. It will be wrong, but it will give you support for your pre-conceived notions of reality.

[Mills 0]

That verse has contextual meaning which clarifies it. Corinthians is a book written for instruction to pastors for their churches, and addresses specific problems some churches were having. They asked specific questions, and got specific answers. For instance one of teh questions they answered was regarding a man who was having an affair with his step mother. the answer is not to be applied to all relationships between men and women, to do so would be silly.Being so fresh from the Jewish faith, the Early Christians adopted many of the same traditions, one of which was separate sitting areas for men and women. Women would ask their husband questions about the service, and were disruptive, so they were commanded to shut their filthy mouths. In context, this verse completely has a different meaning than you are ascribing to it.But I understand why you guys like to pull it out of context. It fits your pre-conceived notions of what you already know to be true.That's why verses like this:are consistent with the message of the New Testament. One that was radically pro-women when the culture literally had women one step above property.But again, just focus on the worst possible explanation, it will be repeated over and over again by many web sites filled with all the 'proof' that the Bible is racist, sexist and supports slavery. It will be wrong, but it will give you support for your pre-conceived notions of reality.

Thanks for clarifying....

[timwakefield 68]

Edit: Nope you were right...kind of:

I don't see how any of what you quoted (regarding Clinton's father) is relevant or how it makes me anything less than completely right. There certainly wasn't a question of who his biological parents were.