FARGOpokerND 22 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I talked to the guy behind the burger counter and he says he is an ICM genius as well and told me you are all wrong and I done shoulda ate the fours since they are silly cards anyways. Link to post Share on other sites
kobe2odom8 14 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 were they sooted? Link to post Share on other sites
rcgs59 15 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I talked to the guy behind the burger counter and he says he is an ICM genius as well and told me you are all wrong and I done shoulda ate the fours since they are silly cards anyways.touche lolbtw I am not criticizing the play per say I like the dicussion factor it bought out and the thoughts and logic behind it Link to post Share on other sites
babylondonks 5 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 were they sooted?<--- Link to post Share on other sites
DiamondDixie 12 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Wiz gives it a -3 edge putting the ones left to act on a pretty tight range. No matter how tight you put them calling Wiz still says it's a fold. However, as we know sometimes it's okay to make a slight negative EV play and this may just be one of those times. Didn't mean to get my panties in a wad earlier. :-) Link to post Share on other sites
FARGOpokerND 22 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Link to post Share on other sites
HighwayStar 8 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Excellent avatars, diamonddixie and rcgs59 Link to post Share on other sites
DiamondDixie 12 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 This poor guy/girl, lol Link to post Share on other sites
DiamondDixie 12 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 rose your avatar makes me hotttThis is hilarious since she changed her avatar, lol. Link to post Share on other sites
CorvairShaggy 5 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Excellent avatars, diamonddixie and rcgs59They are confusing as hell. It's like being in the friggin twilight zone or something. Hard to keep up with who is who.BTW - I now know why people do not want to play these $4.40s. When you are use to playing all turbos, after playing for an hour or so you want to shove 4 4, but then realize you have like 22BBs. Link to post Share on other sites
donk4life 34 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 i like how some people make their avatar that picture when they don't even know the story behind it.pretty disrespectful, i'd change it if i were you. Link to post Share on other sites
TrueAce13 18 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 i like how some people make their avatar that picture when they don't even know the story behind it.pretty disrespectful, i'd change it if i were you.what do you know?! Link to post Share on other sites
DiamondDixie 12 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 i like how some people make their avatar that picture when they don't even know the story behind it.pretty disrespectful, i'd change it if i were you.OMG a cliff hanger, fill us in..... Link to post Share on other sites
donk4life 34 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 OMG a cliff hanger, fill us in.....no. just change itplease Link to post Share on other sites
rcgs59 15 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 no. just change itpleasegeez Ian I didn't think you cared:) Link to post Share on other sites
donk4life 34 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 i mean, i think it's funny that others are doing it because they're good friends with the person.neither of you two are, so it's kind of dumb. Link to post Share on other sites
PillyPill 0 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Team Shiva Bomb begins it's quest tonight (Thanks again Corvair!)SHIVAKAMINI SOMAKANDARKRAM!!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
TrueAce13 18 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 who is the pic of anyways? Link to post Share on other sites
PillyPill 0 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 who is the pic of anyways?Janina GavankarPlays Shiva on TV Show The League during Season 1 Link to post Share on other sites
wsox8 10 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 problem solved Link to post Share on other sites
king1305 0 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Anyone potentially want a partner? Link to post Share on other sites
kobe2odom8 14 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Anyone potentially want a partner?I don't see fluff in yet, hit him up. Link to post Share on other sites
GWCGWC 83 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 sparconian maths is too hard, I has computers for that. Dixie, what am I missing that the PvT pro is seeing? Don't be, and don't - discussing hands is always good. (Though it sometimes takes some thick skin and the ability to filter out the useful parts of the discussion from the "what I do is right and what you do is stupid" comments. )To me, before doing the math, it was absolutely not clear whether this shove was +EV or not. In fact, assuming that SNG Wizard indeed gives a different result, even after doing the math it is apparently not so clear. So once again, if someone has SNG wizard and could post the output, I would like to see it, to see which of the assumptions I made makes the difference between +EV and -EV.The useful thing about these discussions is that of course, nobody can do this kind of math in their head while at the table, so to me it is very useful to work through some of those hands in detail and figure out what the correct play is. That way, you gain some intuition for these situations that can be very useful at the tables. As a bonus, if nothing else, we learn from it that these situations are often surprisingly counter-intuitive. Hopefully, that makes us a bit more humble, and we learn to politely present our opinions in threads, so that we don't look like ignorant dicks when it turns out we were wrong... Link to post Share on other sites
outsider13 0 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Yup, I did the math too and it's good. Btw, your structure is wrong in the calcs, although for cEV it makes no diff, so nevermind. Link to post Share on other sites
rcgs59 15 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I don't see fluff in yet, hit him up.lol,hey never mind it was funny last week when he watched me in a set of sng's Link to post Share on other sites
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