CobaltBlue 662 Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 time to buck that trendfu July, blue gonna winI was somewhat concerned when I completely bricked Sunday (the only day I'd played until yesterday), but binking that tournament last night put me back on the good side. :)Time to griiiind. Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted July 9, 2011 Author Share Posted July 9, 2011 Got a few hands where I just want to ensure my lines/bet sizing etc is good... thanks for any inputMerge Network $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1366528DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History ConverterUTG: $3.18MP: $4.72CO: $8.90Hero (BTN): $4.19SB: $2.81BB: $4.45Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero is BTN with K K 2 folds, CO raises to $0.14, Hero calls $0.14, SB calls $0.12, 1 foldFlop: ($0.46) Q 2 J (3 players)SB checks, CO bets $0.30, Hero raises to $0.96, SB calls $0.96, CO foldsTurn: ($2.68) 4 (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $3.09 all in, SB calls $1.71 all inVillain is 24/6 and I think has a lot of flush draws when he check/takes two to the face, but we have teh Kd if he does have a lower flush... dead vs AXdd tho Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted July 9, 2011 Author Share Posted July 9, 2011 Villain is 41/24/.8... Always gonna be 88 and 9T? Is there a better line to take on the turn?Merge Network $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players - View hand 1366531DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History ConverterBB: $8.10Hero (CO): $5.98BTN: $3.12SB: $7.70Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero is CO with 7 7 Hero raises to $0.08, 1 fold, SB calls $0.06, 1 foldFlop: ($0.20) 8 7 3 (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $0.16, SB calls $0.16Turn: ($0.52) J (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $0.40, SB raises to $1.06, Hero raises to $2.28, SB raises to $7.46 all in, Hero calls $3.46 all in Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 whoacongratsdetails?TYTY. Starting seeing this girl, Megan, over two years ago and proposed early this summer.This might be a leak Shut it, lol. I'll only play other casino games when I'm 1) there with Megan since she doesn't play poker 2) When I'm on a sizeable wait list for pokerGot a few hands where I just want to ensure my lines/bet sizing etc is good... thanks for any inputMerge Network $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1366528DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History ConverterUTG: $3.18MP: $4.72CO: $8.90Hero (BTN): $4.19SB: $2.81BB: $4.45Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero is BTN with K K 2 folds, CO raises to $0.14, Hero calls $0.14, SB calls $0.12, 1 foldFlop: ($0.46) Q 2 J (3 players)SB checks, CO bets $0.30, Hero raises to $0.96, SB calls $0.96, CO foldsTurn: ($2.68) 4 (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $3.09 all in, SB calls $1.71 all inVillain is 24/6 and I think has a lot of flush draws when he check/takes two to the face, but we have teh Kd if he does have a lower flush... dead vs AXdd tho A weird spot but I like your turn shove. If villain had more the 2/3PSB left this may be a check/fold but with only 1.71 left I shove. Link to post Share on other sites
SCS 0 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Got a few hands where I just want to ensure my lines/bet sizing etc is good... thanks for any inputMerge Network $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1366528DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History ConverterUTG: $3.18MP: $4.72CO: $8.90Hero (BTN): $4.19SB: $2.81BB: $4.45Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero is BTN with K K 2 folds, CO raises to $0.14, Hero calls $0.14, SB calls $0.12, 1 foldFlop: ($0.46) Q 2 J (3 players)SB checks, CO bets $0.30, Hero raises to $0.96, SB calls $0.96, CO foldsTurn: ($2.68) 4 (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $3.09 all in, SB calls $1.71 all inVillain is 24/6 and I think has a lot of flush draws when he check/takes two to the face, but we have teh Kd if he does have a lower flush... dead vs AXdd tho 3 bet preflop against a tight raising range unless you have a really strong read that one of the blinds is squeeze happy.If your plan is to shove the turn I'd raise the flop a bit larger so we don't have to overbet. Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 3 bet preflop against a tight raising range unless you have a really strong read that one of the blinds is squeeze happy.If your plan is to shove the turn I'd raise the flop a bit larger so we don't have to overbet.I'm not sure if shoving the turn with KJs plan all along, but when SB flats and CO folds, SB is his only opponent and only has $1.71 left in a pot of $2.68. So his shove isn't really an overbet. Link to post Share on other sites
SCS 0 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 I'm not sure if shoving the turn with KJs plan all along, but when SB flats and CO folds, SB is his only opponent and only has $1.71 left in a pot of $2.68. So his shove isn't really an overbet.Yeah, you're right. I got CO and SB mixed up. Still, we should raise flop larger because CO could potentially call, assuming we are planning to shove turn vs him. Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Can we discuss range balancing. I just want to make sure I understand the concept.This is pretty much geared towards 4betting, but I think it can apply to other areas.Ok, so let's say my range of 4bet/stack off hands is AK, QQ+ That's 34 combos. Now when I think of balancing a bluffing range, I think I'm supposed to have around 34 combos of hands that I'm 4bet/folding. Is that the right way to think about it? Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted July 10, 2011 Author Share Posted July 10, 2011 3 bet preflop against a tight raising range unless you have a really strong read that one of the blinds is squeeze happy.If your plan is to shove the turn I'd raise the flop a bit larger so we don't have to overbet.Yeah, CO was 23/20, so not a tight preflop range and the sb is a fish and bb was squeeze happy (22% 3b over 40 hands, but still)Yeah, I think flop raise could be 1.15 or 1.20 for suretyty, fellas Link to post Share on other sites
SCS 0 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Can we discuss range balancing. I just want to make sure I understand the concept.This is pretty much geared towards 4betting, but I think it can apply to other areas.Ok, so let's say my range of 4bet/stack off hands is AK, QQ+ That's 34 combos. Now when I think of balancing a bluffing range, I think I'm supposed to have around 34 combos of hands that I'm 4bet/folding. Is that the right way to think about it?If you have a balanced 4 betting range, then your ev is 0 no matter what villain does.We also need to make a few assumptions which for the purpose of this example is:1) We are the CO, villain is BTN.2) Villain is 3 betting 10% in this specific spot.3) Villain is shoving AK, QQ+ to a 4 bet, and folding everything else.4) Blinds fold5) We open the pot to 3bbs, villain 3 bets to 10bbs, we 4 bet to 22bbs. Since villain is 3 betting 10% of the time and shoving QQ+, AK over a 4 bet, villain is folding 3/4 of the time to a 4 bet.Our ev when villain folds is the size of the pot x the percent villain folds - what we risk x the percent villain callsor 14.5(.75) - 19(.25)or 6.125So if the ev of villain folding is 6.125, then if we are balanced in our 4 betting range, we should make -6.125bbs whenever villain shoves.The ev calc for this is: [x(126.5(.50) - 78(.50))] + -19(1-x) = -6.125 (where x = percent times we are value 4 betting and 1 -x = percent times we are bluffing)x(63.25 - 39) - 19 + 19x = -6.12563.25x - 39x - 19 + 19x = -6.12543.25x - 19 = -6.12543.25x = 12.875x = 29.8%Which means we should be 4 bet bluffing about 70% of the time to be balanced in this spot.Since QQ+, AK is 34 combos and 34 = .30x, the total number of combos, bluff and value, is 113. 113 - 34 = 79 combos of bluffs. Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted July 10, 2011 Author Share Posted July 10, 2011 Are you the same SCS from DC? Link to post Share on other sites
SCS 0 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Are you the same SCS from DC?Yep. Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted July 10, 2011 Author Share Posted July 10, 2011 great post on balance Link to post Share on other sites
SCS 0 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 great post on balanceThanks.Also, while balance is important to think about, it usually isn't the most profitable way to play a hand, especially against a fish. Against them we want to play an exploitative style. Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted July 10, 2011 Author Share Posted July 10, 2011 Thanks.Also, while balance is important to think about, it usually isn't the most profitable way to play a hand, especially against a fish. Against them we want to play an exploitative style.Oh yeah. I play extremely exploitable but it's like the micros where we just value bet fish and bluff tight regs... Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Also, while balance is important to think about, it usually isn't the most profitable way to play a hand, especially against a fish. Against them we want to play an exploitative style.Oh for sure. Since I'm really working on becoming a strong lag player, I just wanted to figure out how to balance a 4bet range against regs that will be 3betting me since I'm opening much more frequently. Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 sorry I'm still hung up on the fact that James flatted kings pf Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted July 10, 2011 Author Share Posted July 10, 2011 sorry I'm still hung up on the fact that James flatted kings pfkeep my ranges wide and tough to play against, obvgot ATdd to put >1/3 of his stack in on the floooop... then I shoveled drawing dead... obv expert play itt Link to post Share on other sites
SCS 0 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 keep my ranges wide and tough to play against, obvgot ATdd to put >1/3 of his stack in on the floooop... then I shoveled drawing dead... obv expert play itt From the Gavin Smith school of poker? Link to post Share on other sites
SCS 0 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Oh for sure. Since I'm really working on becoming a strong lag player, I just wanted to figure out how to balance a 4bet range against regs that will be 3betting me since I'm opening much more frequently.The problem with having a balanced 4 betting range, is that decent regs are going to notice your frequencies and start adjusting their 3 bet/5betting ranges, which means you will have to readjust to balance. Also, I wouldn't worry about balance in spots that don't come up that often, even against regs. Situations like 4 betting preflop, river crai, river overbets, etc, you can play an extremely exploitable style. Spots where you want to play a balanced style, or as close a s possible to one, are situations that come up often, such as making a cbet on a flop. Against a fish you should play an exploitable style, betting large with your strong hands and small with your weaker hands against a fish, but against a good thinking player you'd want to bet about the same amount with your entire range. Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 I have broken down and created a twitter. Figured it'd would make it easier to follow poker tournaments and some sports. Also thought it'd help posting hands on there too and trying to get people to follow and give me input on hands. If you too have a twitter feel free to follow me @SirRawrsALot Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted July 11, 2011 Author Share Posted July 11, 2011 I have broken down and created a twitter. Figured it'd would make it easier to follow poker tournaments and some sports. Also thought it'd help posting hands on there too and trying to get people to follow and give me input on hands. If you too have a twitter feel free to follow me @SirRawrsALotcouldn't find you, but that sometimes happens with new acctsill try again tomorrow Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 ugh itching to play, but this damn flu is making it impossible to focus. Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 couldn't find you, but that sometimes happens with new acctsill try again tomorrowHa. I tried searching KingJames in hopes of finding you. All I got was 345 accounts in reference to LeBron James. #whoops Link to post Share on other sites
Ninja Ace 1 Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 mobile broadband rocks. Now I can slack on the go too :)I wonder how long Virgin Mobile will keep up the $50 unlimited plan.... Link to post Share on other sites
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