New Challenge: Movin' On Up

[XXEddie 0]

Also all you guys. The constant steam of bad beat posts in this thread is making it close to unreadable of late. You all complain about bad beats. How does looking at them again help you? How does taking the time out to find it, copy the hand history, convert it and post it so you can look at it even more help yourself?I don't know if any of you guys have ever meditated before, but the basic idea is to try and focus on one thing (usually breathing). Sometimes your mind wonders, That is fine you just acknowledge it , label what it is and get back on task. Eventually you can go longer periods without getting distracted. Your playing poker, thinking of ranges and stuff. You try for a bluff and it gets called by a crazy stupid hand. You acknowledge the frustration you are feeling and move back to ranges and stuff. Eventually the standard becomes water off a ducks back. If you thinking about how many times your aces have been cracked, What are you not thinking about? If you think you have everything covered, Perhaps if you sat at more tables and channeled that wasted mental energy you could be making even more money.

As others have said I think it is helpful to vent to somebody. It's like having a bad day in general. A lot of people like to tell their friend/significant other/family member how and why today sucked. I also think a lot of the bad beats happen just a few minutes before the post. I feel like there are a lot of times where I take a bad beat and think; "Heh, the challenge thread should find this funny." Then an hour later, I forget to go dig it up because I don't care anymore. I can't speak for everybody else, but when I post a bad beat it's not a "OMG FML I RUN SO BAD EVERYBODY LOOK AT MY HORRIBLE VARIANCE!!!". It's more like "Lol... check out this awesome line. limp/3-bet with KTo, then he calls min 4-bet. And on the Q9x flop open-shoves for 3x the pot and binks his J vs my QQ then I obv can't hit 10 outs, lawls!"Again, maybe this is just me. I deal with it by telling a friend about it and having a laugh. I think most of the posters here are smart enough not to really cling to that hand and just move on. No harm in having a laugh or a minor vent about it.

[SuperJon 175]

you sure give 105% of yourself in each post you make

lol nice catchlong day at work today

[XXEddie 0]

So my question is what do we do on the turn? How much are we betting, and what cards are we checking on the river and which are we betting? Villian is 24/22 over 100+ hands.Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players - View hand 1235722DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History ConverterSB: $14.37Hero (BB): $25.00CO: $9.32BTN: $96.93CO posts a big blind ($0.25)Pre Flop: ($0.60) Hero is BB with 9 9 CO checks, BTN raises to $1.10, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.85, 1 foldFlop: ($2.55) T 3 3 (2 players)Hero checks, BTN bets $2.25, Hero calls $2.25Turn: ($7.05) 3 (2 players)

Are we betting? I think leading the turn almost turns our hand face up. What else would we lead? I'd be content with check/calling a lot here. Then again, I'm a passive donk sometimes.

[KosinTrouble 0]

lol nice catchlong day at work today

Does the above post go under the 75% brag? or 20% strat?or 5% bad beat section?

[XXEddie 0]

Does the above post go under the 75% brag? or 20% strat?or 5% bad beat section?

The 7% other section.

[SuperJon 175]

Does the above post go under the 75% brag? or 20% strat?or 5% bad beat section?

Definitely bad beat.

[XXEddie 0]

Since HEM is still being gay here are some stats from this last session (4 tables/1003 hands). I know it's a small sample, but are my %s decent?5nl fullring. 1,004 hands. 16% of flops10% of turns6% of rivers4% of showdownsWon 74% of showdown. Profit; $36.36BB/100; 72.72I'm going to TRY to post a bunch of hands from it either tonight or tomorrow. There were a lot of spot where I was confused about.

[Nashtak 0]

Since HEM is still being gay here are some stats from this last session (4 tables/1003 hands). I know it's a small sample, but are my %s decent?5nl fullring. 1,004 hands. 16% of flops10% of turns6% of rivers4% of showdownsWon 74% of showdown. Profit; $36.36BB/100; 72.72I'm going to TRY to post a bunch of hands from it either tonight or tomorrow. There were a lot of spot where I was confused about.

Is this part of the 20% strat or 75% brag?

[XXEddie 0]

Is this part of the 20% strat or 75% brag?

50/50.

[KingJames 11]

Today was really pleasant.

[Nashtak 0]

Today was really pleasant.

Blog or it didn't happen

[XXEddie 0]

Today was really pleasant.

Possibly going up to Blackhawk tomorrow. Just an FYI.

[XXEddie 0]

Just a complete blah hand I'm sure I butchered a lot. I also get really passive against multiple opponents. Taking another look I think I should have raised the flop. If I flat call I think I need to muck the turn. Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comMP1 ($8.36)MP2 ($2.73)MP3 ($3.50)CO ($4.78)MistaPickles (Button) ($5)SB ($5.69)BB ($11.96)UTG ($1.67)UTG+1 ($6.31)Preflop: MistaPickles is Button with K , 9 3 folds, MP2 calls $0.05, 2 folds, MistaPickles bets $0.15, SB calls $0.13, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.10Flop: ($0.50) K , 10 , 6 (3 players)SB checks, MP2 bets $0.30, MistaPickles calls $0.30, SB calls $0.30Turn: ($1.40) 7 (3 players)SB checks, MP2 bets $1, MistaPickles calls $1, SB calls $1River: ($4.40) 5 (3 players)SB checks, MP2 bets $0.70, MistaPickles folds

[XXEddie 0]

Another situation where I think I always miss a ton of value. I always end up passive in these spots because my mind tells me there is no point in raising because he either has be beat(5x, AA, KK), we are choping, or I have the best hand and there is no way villain will give me any more money. So I puss out. Should I bet 3-betting the turn? Leading the river?Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (7 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comButton ($8.07)SB ($3.50)BB ($5.02)MistaPickles (UTG) ($5.21)MP1 ($5.87)MP2 ($12.60)CO ($1.70)Preflop: MistaPickles is UTG with A , K MistaPickles bets $0.15, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.15, 4 foldsFlop: ($0.37) 5 , 5 , K (2 players)MistaPickles bets $0.20, MP2 calls $0.20Turn: ($0.77) 5 (2 players)MistaPickles bets $0.35, MP2 raises to $0.70, MistaPickles calls $0.35River: ($2.17) 6 (2 players)MistaPickles checks

[XXEddie 0]

There's gonna be a lot of hands. Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comMP1 ($1.95)MP2 ($5.77)MP3 ($5.34)CO ($3.34)MistaPickles (Button) ($5.46)SB ($5.09)BB ($5.43)UTG ($5)UTG+1 ($6.02)Preflop: MistaPickles is Button with J , A 2 folds, MP1 calls $0.05, MP2 calls $0.05, MP3 bets $0.25, 1 fold, MistaPickles raises to $0.65, 4 folds, MP3 calls $0.40Flop: ($1.47) 9 , 9 , 7 (2 players)MP3 checks, MistaPickles bets $0.853 bet = standard/spewy? Is a fold or a flat better? C-bet standard?

[XXEddie 0]

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comMP2 ($4.68)CO ($4.53)Button ($5)MistaPickles (SB) ($5.65)BB ($5.02)UTG ($10.15)UTG+1 ($5.18)MP1 ($5.12)Preflop: MistaPickles is SB with Q , A 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.05, 4 folds, MistaPickles bets $0.15, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10Flop: ($0.35) 3 , J , 7 (2 players)MistaPickles bets $0.20, UTG+1 raises to $0.80, MistaPickles raises to $2.25, UTG+1 raises to $5.03 (All-In), MistaPickles calls $2.78Spewy or standard? I feel like this is 33/77 a lot more than I thought at first, but I also thought I had FE against random Jx type hands.

[XXEddie 0]

Standard, right?Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comUTG ($1.89)MP ($3.97)CO ($5.61)Button ($5)MistaPickles (SB) ($10.27)BB ($4.95)Preflop: MistaPickles is SB with K , Q UTG bets $0.10, 3 folds, MistaPickles calls $0.08, 1 foldFlop: ($0.25) K , 9 , 8 (2 players)MistaPickles checks, UTG bets $0.15, MistaPickles calls $0.15Turn: ($0.55) Q (2 players)MistaPickles checks, UTG bets $0.40, MistaPickles raises to $1.75Incase you missed it my turn raise covers him.

[XXEddie 0]

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comButton ($9.19)SB ($4.50)BB ($5.38)UTG ($6.09)MistaPickles (UTG+1) ($12.28)MP1 ($4.95)MP2 ($3.05)MP3 ($0.66)CO ($5)Preflop: MistaPickles is UTG+1 with A , A 1 fold, MistaPickles bets $0.15, 4 folds, Button calls $0.15, SB calls $0.13, BB calls $0.10Flop: ($0.60) 9 , K , 6 (4 players)SB checks, BB bets $0.25, MistaPickles raises to $0.80, 1 fold, SB calls $0.80, BB calls $0.55Turn: ($3) Q (3 players)SB checks, BB checks, MistaPickles checksRiver: ($3) 2 (3 players)SB checks, BB bets $0.05, MistaPickles calls $0.05Really tricky spot me thinks. Turn check ok? River flat/check ok?

[KingJames 11]

@K9- iso raise larger... 3x +1bb for each limper... so .20. Post flop looks goot to me.@AK- I'm cbetting .25 and c/c river is fine bc we just called turn thinking he has a lot of bluffs, we must let him bluff. min-3betting turn can be fun when they spaz @AJo- don't mind the 3b, especially if MP is a reg or you suspect he will iso light. Good amount of dead money and we have position. Cbet/size is goot imo. We have overs if called and we keep repping that big purrrr@AQ- Again I iso to .20 and yes I'm getting it in on that flop vs almost all villains@KQ- fine imo, hope he dies for SSing@AA- I don't mind it. I kinda like bet/folding the turn a bit more just bc I think we need to value bet thin in these games, but its never bad to slow down in a 3way pot after that flop action.

[KingJames 11]

Blog or it didn't happen

nothing blog worthy... got my face crushed all daythoughts on folding the turn? Should I just fold the flop?We're deep, he's a 18/15/... 4/5 fold to c-bet and 1/14 check-raise... he's likely got a setonce a cow has a taste for violence, it reverts. it becomes feral.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 - 5 playersUTG money8008: $19.79 CO oldandpastit: $15.23 Button Hero: $19.96 SB Niagara61: $34.75 BB nebosunce: $45.74 Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is Button with (5 players)money8008 calls $0.10, oldandpastit calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, Niagara61 folds, nebosunce calls $0.40, money8008 calls $0.40, oldandpastit calls $0.40Flop: ($2.05) (4 players)nebosunce checks, money8008 checks, oldandpastit checks, Hero bets $1.50, nebosunce raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.50Turn: ($8.05) (2 players)nebosunce bets $3.50, Hero folds??

[KingJames 11]

Thoughts on the river? Don't just say nit-roll bc I dunno what he over bet jams river with that we beat.Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 - 6 playersUTG+1 Hero: $10.05 CO money8008: $20.42 Button oldandpastit: $10.84 SB juddjack: $25.56 BB Niagara61: $34.97 UTG nebosunce: $46.35 Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG+1 with (6 players)nebosunce folds, Hero raises to $0.30, money8008 calls $0.30, oldandpastit calls $0.30, juddjack calls $0.25, Niagara61 calls $0.20Flop: ($1.50) (5 players)juddjack checks, Niagara61 checks, Hero bets $0.80, money8008 folds, oldandpastit calls $0.80, 2 foldsTurn: ($3.10) (2 players)Hero checks, oldandpastit bets $1.40, Hero calls $1.40River: ($5.90) (2 players)Hero checks, oldandpastit bets $8.34, and is all in, Hero wants to fold...Villain is 42/16/1.06 over 136 hands. 33 fold to cbet. 1.72% 3bet.My open is a bit loose, but this guy and the sb were pretty bad... guess it's bad to open 9Tss and fold when we make a flush... i dunno

[KosinTrouble 0]

Thoughts on the river? Don't just say nit-roll bc I dunno what he over bet jams river with that we beat.Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 - 6 playersUTG+1 Hero: $10.05 CO money8008: $20.42 Button oldandpastit: $10.84 SB juddjack: $25.56 BB Niagara61: $34.97 UTG nebosunce: $46.35 Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG+1 with (6 players)nebosunce folds, Hero raises to $0.30, money8008 calls $0.30, oldandpastit calls $0.30, juddjack calls $0.25, Niagara61 calls $0.20Flop: ($1.50) (5 players)juddjack checks, Niagara61 checks, Hero bets $0.80, money8008 folds, oldandpastit calls $0.80, 2 foldsTurn: ($3.10) (2 players)Hero checks, oldandpastit bets $1.40, Hero calls $1.40River: ($5.90) (2 players)Hero checks, oldandpastit bets $8.34, and is all in, Hero wants to fold...Villain is 42/16/1.06 over 136 hands. 33 fold to cbet. 1.72% 3bet.My open is a bit loose, but this guy and the sb were pretty bad... guess it's bad to open 9Tss and fold when we make a flush... i dunno

I'd call. I can see villian showing up with AK with a single spade, I can see AQ, even lots of trips. I think he bets small on the turn, knowing you will jam over if you have the flush, but because you didnt, he doesnt think you have a flush, so he's jamming the river. And I would cry the few times he does have the flush, but I dont think he has it this time.

[CobaltBlue 662]

So just had my best session monetarily in weeks. Feels quite good. Funnily, I finished down 2.5bi, but up ~$600 the way that it panned out. The session started by me glancing at the 5/10 tables and noticing a juicy one. I don't typically even scout tables (let alone that high), but just happened to this evening. Was one decent reg sitting with two super donks...so I sat and picked up .25bi in like 15 minutes before the table started to lose the juiciness. After that, played quite a bit of 1/2 and 2/4 HU and slowly punted 6bi at 50nl Rush. I actually do have an interesting hand or two that I might post when I get them imported.

[droberts 3]

i know i post alot of bad beats.. sry bout that.. i will try to fix that.. but i do honestly post them for venting purposes.. altho i can agree that is frustrating to see one person moan and post them over and over.. my apologies.. here is a real hand for once![/color]Converting hands till the cows come homeFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersBB urragsrgood: $74.27 UTG Hero: $86.78 UTG+1 gosukiong: $22.72 CO thaiger23: $38.13 Button razerskee: $14.96 SB gaserman86: $17.73 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with : : (6 players)Hero raises to $0.85, gosukiong calls $0.85, 3 folds, urragsrgood calls $0.60Flop: ($2.65) : : : (3 players)urragsrgood checks, Hero bets $1.75, gosukiong folds, urragsrgood raises to $4, Hero calls $2.25Turn: ($10.65) : (2 players)urragsrgood bets $2.75thoughts on all streets and future ones

[SuperJon 175]

nothing blog worthy... got my face crushed all daythoughts on folding the turn? Should I just fold the flop?We're deep, he's a 18/15/... 4/5 fold to c-bet and 1/14 check-raise... he's likely got a setonce a cow has a taste for violence, it reverts. it becomes feral.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 - 5 playersUTG money8008: $19.79 CO oldandpastit: $15.23 Button Hero: $19.96 SB Niagara61: $34.75 BB nebosunce: $45.74 Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is Button with (5 players)money8008 calls $0.10, oldandpastit calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, Niagara61 folds, nebosunce calls $0.40, money8008 calls $0.40, oldandpastit calls $0.40Flop: ($2.05) (4 players)nebosunce checks, money8008 checks, oldandpastit checks, Hero bets $1.50, nebosunce raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.50Turn: ($8.05) (2 players)nebosunce bets $3.50, Hero folds??

I've gotten better at being able to get away from pots like this.When you get raised on a dry board, it's gonna be a set so much, so I don't mind a fold on the flop.I would def. make a note of his bet sizing though.