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I love how everybody thinks they are so important and if they are fired the company won't have a chance in hell at accomplishing anything without them. I wouldn't be expecting any calls for $200/hr consulting any time soon :club:

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I disagree with the people who are trashing Teavis for being sad and bitter. I think, regardless of the puerile nature of his e-mail, more people shuold be calling out their employers for unreasonable firings. While we don't know WHY Teavis (Andy) got fired, it clearly came as a surprise and part of the reason appears to be that the job was given to a family member, which isn't entirely legal, I think.Sure, Teavis did some name calling, but when you get shitcanned, it's probably better to express yourself in an e-mail than to do so with a semi-automatic weapon. I've been in on the shit end of the stick at times and have been "fired" from jobs for the following reasons:Record Store: I got fired for not approaching customers often enough, a rather arbitrary assessment, considering there was no tool for mapping this and the scope of my musical knowledge spans all genres. I just didn't believe in jumping on someone the moment they came in the store door. Puts me off when I don't have a chance to get in the door before someone asks me if I've found what I was looking for. "Hey, fukko, I just got here"Dispatching computer techs for a large corporate entity: This was a surprise firing perpetrated by the **** who was acting supervisor. I was part of the pilot project, had developed and maintained solid relationships with the regional techs I worked with and did a stellar job with a high quality rate of response. We're talking about millions of dollars in service contracts here. And, because this twat decided I didn't respect her (which is true, because she was ****ing HER boss AND almost every team meeting she had with personnel ended in her losing it or someone else in tears...solid management skills indeed), she secretly trained someone else to do my job and [parcelled me out. Did they have just cause? No and this is substantiated by the fact they paid me money to leave quietly. It's just as well...the commute was brutal.Anyway, those of you who are calling him out for sending this e-mail: Just wait until you get screwed and see how you react. If you get fired and say Thank You, well, maybe your balls have fallen off. While it certainly isn't the "best" course of action, it's an honest valid expression of emotion and I respect that.Edit: Nice touch leaving the e-mail addresses uncensored lol

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I've been in on the shit end of the stick at times and have been "fired" from jobs for the following reasons:Record Store: I got fired for not approaching customers often enough, a rather arbitrary assessment, considering there was no tool for mapping this and the scope of my musical knowledge spans all genres. I just didn't believe in jumping on someone the moment they came in the store door. Puts me off when I don't have a chance to get in the door before someone asks me if I've found what I was looking for. "Hey, fukko, I just got here"Dispatching computer techs for a large corporate entity: This was a surprise firing perpetrated by the **** who was acting supervisor. I was part of the pilot project, had developed and maintained solid relationships with the regional techs I worked with and did a stellar job with a high quality rate of response. We're talking about millions of dollars in service contracts here. And, because this twat decided I didn't respect her (which is true, because she was ****ing HER boss AND almost every team meeting she had with personnel ended in her losing it or someone else in tears...solid management skills indeed), she secretly trained someone else to do my job and [parcelled me out. Did they have just cause? No and this is substantiated by the fact they paid me money to leave quietly. It's just as well...the commute was brutal.
So, to sum up, you got fired for not doing your job in the manner in which the store wanted you to do it and for disrespecting your supervisor for not doing her job in the manner in which you wanted her to do it.
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I disagree with the people who are trashing Teavis for being sad and bitter. I think, regardless of the puerile nature of his e-mail, more people shuold be calling out their employers for unreasonable firings.
Real world tip #1: People who are capable of actually sending an email like that are never "unreasonably" fired.Think about it.
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So, to sum up, you got fired for not doing your job in the manner in which the store wanted you to do it and for disrespecting your supervisor for not doing her job in the manner in which you wanted her to do it.
No and no, you dummy. Nice job of reading between the lines.First, the "policy" of approaching clients wasn't a documented policy and was never part of the "training". It was "suggested" by management that this was a good way of doing things. I had no "conversations" about this prior to my firing and no "warnings". Second, how the fuck would you know if I disrespected my supervisor or not? For the record, she had a chip on her shoulder about me from the beginning and you don't have a clue what the dynamic was. Your inference that I was in the wrong is based on scant information.Very poor analytical skills on you, Cindy Lou. I'm sure you enjoy bending over for your daily corporate reaming.
Real world tip #1: People who are capable of actually sending an email like that are never "unreasonably" fired.Think about it.
I'm not disputing or advocating the "loose cannon" aspect of the e-mail and it's sending. Ultimately, what I am advocating is a VOICE for the little guy, the employee who gets shafted, the scape-goat.
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Second, how the #$%# would you know if I disrespected my supervisor or not?
And, because this twat decided I didn't respect her (which is true, because she was ****ing HER boss AND almost every team meeting she had with personnel ended in her losing it or someone else in tears...solid management skills indeed)
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First, the "policy" of approaching clients wasn't a documented policy and was never part of the "training". It was "suggested" by management that this was a good way of doing things. I had no "conversations" about this prior to my firing and no "warnings". Second, how the fuck would you know if I disrespected my supervisor or not?
First, I would "suggest" that if you don't agree with management's "suggestions," you have a "conversation" with them about it, rather than just ignoring it.Second, lol,
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Some of you people make me laugh...Basing your judgements on just a few subjective statements (made years after the fact) and thinking it substantiates your perception of things. I'm sure you (Henry and Cindy Lou, for example) always do the "right" thing when something unpleasant happens to you. I'm also sure you both comply strictly to the letter of the law when it comes to your behaviour at work or at home, right? Never had anything to say about something you disagree about vehemently? Riiiiiight.

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I'm sure you (Henry and Cindy Lou, for example) always do the 'right' thing when something unpleasant happens to you. I'm also sure you both comply strictly to the letter of the law when it comes to your behaviour at work or at home, right? Never had anything to say about something you disagree about vehemently? Riiiiiight.
I can honestly say that in the work environment, I always do things correctly. If I have a disagreement with my boss, I explain my position as clearly and professionally as possible. Sometimes they take my advice, sometimes they don't. If they don't, I ask myself where my paycheck is coming from and act accordingly.In my personal life, I am less rigid about being strictly formal, as you would expect, and frequently do a terrible job of communicating with my ex, because she is an insane bitch.
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I can honestly say that in the work environment, I always do things correctly. If I have a disagreement with my boss, I explain my position as clearly and professionally as possible. Sometimes they take my advice, sometimes they don't. If they don't, I ask myself where my paycheck is coming from and act accordingly.In my personal life, I am less rigid about being strictly formal, as you would expect, and frequently do a terrible job of communicating with my ex, because she is an insane bitch.
You, you're good.
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Some of you people make me laugh...Basing your judgements on just a few subjective statements (made years after the fact) and thinking it substantiates your perception of things. I'm sure you (Henry and Cindy Lou, for example) always do the "right" thing when something unpleasant happens to you. I'm also sure you both comply strictly to the letter of the law when it comes to your behaviour at work or at home, right? Never had anything to say about something you disagree about vehemently? Riiiiiight.
I just make offhand comments about things that strike me as amusing based on what is written. I don’t actually try to read too deep into these things.I have been unjustly (in my mind anyway) fired before. I didn’t yell at anyone. I got another job and everything was fine. I just don’t see what purpose it serves to go off on a rant like that.
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I have got to agree with the OP here and with Mercury69. Have some balls and speak your mind especially if you don't need them for a reference. I can't blame anyone for speaking the truth. Some other posters here seem to imply that all bosses/managment are fair and a simple conversation with them can rectify all wrongs, and what colour is the sky in your world? People are unjustly fired all the time. What good will it do (or what purpose will it serve) some have asked, well off the top of my head: 1. It will make you feel better.2. It will make other employees still working under these conditions/management feel better.3. It might give the boss/management a wake up call and hopefully some changes could be made to improve the working conditions or solve the problem(s) at work. 4. If you don't speak up, you might even feel worse.

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I can honestly say that in the work environment, I always do things correctly. If I have a disagreement with my boss, I explain my position as clearly and professionally as possible. Sometimes they take my advice, sometimes they don't. If they don't, I ask myself where my paycheck is coming from and act accordingly.In my personal life, I am less rigid about being strictly formal, as you would expect, and frequently do a terrible job of communicating with my ex, because she is an insane bitch.
OK. I'm fine with this response, of course. My point was simply that there is more than one perspective and the concept of right and wrong is not black and white. Thanks, Henry, for looking at yourself, rather than pointing fingers.
I just make offhand comments about things that strike me as amusing based on what is written. I don’t actually try to read too deep into these things.I have been unjustly (in my mind anyway) fired before. I didn’t yell at anyone. I got another job and everything was fine. I just don’t see what purpose it serves to go off on a rant like that.
OK, I'm fine with this, too. At very least, it's an admission that you weren't thinking much when you decided I was a complete jerkoff and got fired rightfully. It's difficult to work things out with people who are unwilling to listen, understand and be objective. In both cases, I gave it a shot (with politeness and humility), but to no avail. "My Way or the Highway" sucks, esp when you have a bigger map than the other person that clearly indicates there are other ways to get where you both want to go.Edit: Thanks to Owise for the backup. And to those who think this e-mail might get the attention of the police or a lawsuit, lol @ that. He didn't make any threats whatsoever. You can't arrest a guy for calling someone a ****.
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I have got to agree with the OP here and with Mercury69. Have some balls and speak your mind especially if you don't need them for a reference. I can't blame anyone for speaking the truth. Some other posters here seem to imply that all bosses/managment are fair and a simple conversation with them can rectify all wrongs, and what colour is the sky in your world? People are unjustly fired all the time. What good will it do (or what purpose will it serve) some have asked, well off the top of my head: 1. It will make you feel better.2. It will make other employees still working under these conditions/management feel better.3. It might give the boss/management a wake up call and hopefully some changes could be made to improve the working conditions or solve the problem(s) at work. 4. If you don't speak up, you might even feel worse.
Sending an e-mail is ballsy?
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Sending an e-mail is ballsy?
And what if he did show up at the office? There, dude, is an ugly situation waiting to happen. Trespassing, possible physical contact resulting in assault charges, who knows what else?
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Edit: Thanks to Owise for the backup. And to those who think this e-mail might get the attention of the police or a lawsuit, lol @ that. He didn't make any threats whatsoever. You can't arrest a guy for calling someone a ****.
no, see you've already established that you aren't intelligent. you don't need to continue.
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And what if he did show up at the office? There, dude, is an ugly situation waiting to happen. Trespassing, possible physical contact resulting in assault charges, who knows what else?
I didn't say a confrontation would have to be violent in any nature like show up with a pitchfork and an angry mob, and if your asked to leave while voicing your opinion then just leave and no charges could be filed. A face to face conversation seems more ballsy than sending a childish e-mail, especially if you act appropriately during that conversation, like keeping it civil.
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Some other posters here seem to imply that all bosses/managment are fair and a simple conversation with them can rectify all wrongs, and what colour is the sky in your world? People are unjustly fired all the time.
I never said that I think all employment decisions are fair or sensible, I just said that being a professional at all times is in your own long-term self-interest. Also, people who tend to forget this fact make terrible employees and will be fired many more times in their lives before they learn the lesson.
What good will it do (or what purpose will it serve) some have asked, well off the top of my head: 1. It will make you feel better.
If you are psychopath, yes. For most people, no.
2. It will make other employees still working under these conditions/management feel better.
Do you think management will be posting the message -- Hey guys, look at this letter we got from that angry guy we had to fire because he had no professional skills!
3. It might give the boss/management a wake up call and hopefully some changes could be made to improve the working conditions or solve the problem(s) at work.
If they are as incompetent as claimed, not a chance. If they are competent, the letter is undeserved and will be treated as such, and in fact will be further justification for the firing.
4. If you don't speak up, you might even feel worse.
LOL, I think you are confusing solvable personal relationship issues with useless angry rants that have no hope of doing any good, and in fact has the potential for much harm to the author.For example, one job I got fired from, on the way out I made sure to thank them for the time there and let them know that if they ever need me, they should call. They did.
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If you are psychopath, yes. For most people, no.
Okay, no freaking way on this. Let me say I think it's a terrible decision he made and "because it makes you feel better" for a couple days is an awful excuse to do this.But everybody who has had a bad boss has thought about being able to tell them off and be like "fuck you, i'm out". There is no question at all it is satisfying to actually be able to do this. And it doesn't make you a psychopath in the slightest.
Do you think management will be posting the message -- Hey guys, look at this letter we got from that angry guy we had to fire because he had no professional skills!
And on this...you can clearly see he e-mailed the entire company - so management doesn't need to post it on the wall. That would clearly have the effect he described, others in the company that feel the same way will be like "hell yea to that, glad somebody said it..."
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no, see you've already established that you aren't intelligent. you don't need to continue.
Hi, Sal
I didn't say a confrontation would have to be violent in any nature like show up with a pitchfork and an angry mob, and if your asked to leave while voicing your opinion then just leave and no charges could be filed. A face to face conversation seems more ballsy than sending a childish e-mail, especially if you act appropriately during that conversation, like keeping it civil.
OK, this is quite funny. You actually think that going face to face in this situation is a better solution than sending an e-mail? Personally, I can't think of a better reason for management to call security right away when they see a guy who was just fired walking in the door. And for the person who just got fired to put themselves in a situation like this is simply retarded. Regardless of how calm and collected you picture yourself under stress, it's a pretty emotional state to go a-confrontin' in...
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There is no question at all it is satisfying to actually be able to do this. And it doesn't make you a psychopath in the slightest.
Yeah, I exaggerated that on purpose. And I actually think writing a letter like that can be rewarding and satisfying. Even sharing it with a few friend or a poker forum can be entertaining. Sending it to the company shows something missing upstairs.
And on this...you can clearly see he e-mailed the entire company - so management doesn't need to post it on the wall. That would clearly have the effect he described, others in the company that feel the same way will be like hell yea to that, glad somebody said it.
Ah, I missed that part..... I still don't approve. If everyone hates it there so much they should suck up as much as possible and get their resumes out as quickly as possible. That way, they can get a good reference when they apologetically leave the best job they ever had. It's much more fun that way.
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OK, this is quite funny. You actually think that going face to face in this situation is a better solution than sending an e-mail? Personally, I can't think of a better reason for management to call security right away when they see a guy who was just fired walking in the door. And for the person who just got fired to put themselves in a situation like this is simply retarded. Regardless of how calm and collected you picture yourself under stress, it's a pretty emotional state to go a-confrontin' in...
LOL, what I meant was confront them with whatever is on your chest when they give you the bad news since you are already talking to them in a formal meeting. Waiting till you get home and sending an e-mail like in the OP is the exact opposite of ballsy. I have been in this situation, laid off because of no seniority regardless of how worthless some of the people are they kept because they had been there since the Ice Age. It was someone else who mentioned it being ballsy so I just described how it wasn't now your jumping on my case. Now I remember why I don't venture to OT that often, Peace.
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