Palin Plays The Bill Ayers Card

[85suited 0]

LOL Convicted Fellon = TerroristWhat a great country we live in...

[85suited 0]

The difference is...McCain would write in 2002 that attending the two April 1987 meetings was "the worst mistake of my life", and then go on to co sponsor mc cain feingold campaign finance reform ...Ayers is just some guy that lives in Obamas neighborhood... when the facts clearly show they have worked together for 20 yrsIf he isnt hiding anything, then he should talk about it openly and honestly...No>?

[Nimue1995 1]

The difference is...McCain would write in 2002 that attending the two April 1987 meetings was "the worst mistake of my life", and then go on to co sponsor mc cain feingold campaign finance reform ...Ayers is just some guy that lives in Obamas neighborhood... when the facts clearly show they have worked together for 20 yrsIf he isnt hiding anything, then he should talk about it openly and honestly...No>?

So you're willing to forgive one even though he did associate with person that became a CONVICTED FELON but you can't handle the other's minor associate with someone who WAS NEVER CONVICTED OF ANYTHING INCLUDING TERRORISM. LOl okay well we know who's on a partisan rampage here now don't we?

[85suited 0]

So you're willing to forgive one even though he did associate with person that became a CONVICTED FELON but you can't handle the other's minor associate with someone who WAS NEVER CONVICTED OF ANYTHING INCLUDING TERRORISM. LOl okay well we know who's on a partisan rampage here now don't we?

Minor associate? Are you serious? do you really believe that ayers has be a minor part of Obama's life?Are you really defedning William Ayers? Are you actually claiming that he is not a terroist?

[Nimue1995 1]

Minor associate? Are you serious? do you really believe that ayers has be a minor part of Obama's life?Are you really defedning William Ayers? Are you actually claiming that he is not a terroist?

Interesting thing about the country we live in. A person is considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Now will you show me where William Ayers was proven guilty in a court of law? Just interested in knowing if you have information that apparently nobody else has. Was it one of those military tribunals at Guantanimo Bay and that's why we don't know about it? I don't have to defend William Ayers. A little thing called the Constitution of the United States of America defends William Ayers.

[85suited 0]

LOL - Ayers is a self admitted terroist- no need to convict him... he convicted himself , he wish he did more

[Nimue1995 1]

LOL - Ayers is a self admitted terroists - no need to convict him... he convicted himself , he wish he did more

Comment was regarding opposing the Vietnam War not blowing up shit. Again it's like all the other Swift Boat ads - going down for the 3rd time.

[85suited 0]

I just want to make sure I heard you correct. William Ayers has never set of any bombs or admited setting off bombs?

[Nimue1995 1]

I just want to make sure I heard you correct. William Ayers has never set of any bombs or admited setting off bombs?

Has he ever been convicted of setting bombs? Personally I don't care since it was something allegedly he did when Obama was 8 years old. I'd be more concerned about my candidate associating and taking money from convicted felons instead of someone who allegedly set a bomb 35 years ago and was never convicted of a crime.

[Pot Odds RAC 23]

Interesting thing about the country we live in. A person is considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Now will you show me where William Ayers was proven guilty in a court of law? Just interested in knowing if you have information that apparently nobody else has. Was it one of those military tribunals at Guantanimo Bay and that's why we don't know about it? I don't have to defend William Ayers. A little thing called the Constitution of the United States of America defends William Ayers.

Nope. Not buying it.Like I said earlier, if McCain assoiciated with admitted terrorists that had bombed Black Baptist Churches in the South - his career would be over.Go read the facts around the Keating Five and McCain's relationship with Keating. When McCain realized what was going on with the Five he refused to help out and Keating called him a "Wimp". McCain wasn't proud of his actions and OPENLY admitted his role and FULLY reimbursed any questionable funds. His involvement was considered "minimal" by the Senate Ethics Committee. Pretty different from the friendly relationship between BHO and the self-admitted Bomber Ayers. Even on the "Facts" page for BHO/Biden they don't seem to refute that the relationship was friendly.Since when in this country do we need a Jury to tell us how we feel about someone? There are plenty of people in my life whom I'll never allow in my home who, as far as I know, have never been convicted of anything. Up until this week O.J. hadn't been convicted of anything - he still wouldn't be welcome at my backyard Bar B Q.I think that my feelings about O.J. are Consistent with that little thing called the Constitution.

[Pot Odds RAC 23]

Has he ever been convicted of setting bombs? Personally I don't care since it was something allegedly he did when Obama was 8 years old. I'd be more concerned about my candidate associating and taking money from convicted felons instead of someone who allegedly set a bomb 35 years ago and was never convicted of a crime.

Good for you. However, I think you are deluding yourself. If BHO had the ties with a Felon and McCain was friendly with an admitted Bomber, you'd be all over McCain and excusing BHO for his associations that never resulted in any charges nor sanctions against him. If you can't admit that - then the only one who you're convincing is yourself. Maybe.

[85suited 0]

Has he ever been convicted of setting bombs? Personally I don't care since it was something allegedly he did when Obama was 8 years old. I'd be more concerned about my candidate associating and taking money from convicted felons instead of someone who allegedly set a bomb 35 years ago and was never convicted of a crime.

So tell me what you think Obama's and Ayers realationship really is? Do you really think they only casually know each other?

[Pot Odds RAC 23]

Has he ever been convicted of setting bombs? Personally I don't care since it was something allegedly he did when Obama was 8 years old. I'd be more concerned about my candidate associating and taking money from convicted felons instead of someone who allegedly set a bomb 35 years ago and was never convicted of a crime.

Ever hear of Tony Rezko?...now you have and I guess you are "more concerned" about your candidate.

[Nimue1995 1]

All I was trying to point out that guilt by association is a two-way street. For any casual associations that Obama might have with less than stellar characters I can point out ones that McCain has had also. He's not the squeaky clean crusader that you all want to paint him. He's a politician that's been operating and successful in Washington politics for 20+ years which entails doing some shady things and backroom deals because that's how things get done in Washington. He even said so himself after voting for the bailout bill. If you go back to some of his actions early in his career, he did some pretty sleezy stuff. And I'm not entirely sure why he felt he needed to fly back to Washington during the bailout thing but it's my opinion that it had nothing to do with being the "heroic saver of the bill" and more to do with covering his ass. I truly believe we've only seen the tip of the iceberg when it comes to this whole thing. But be aware that this is only my opinion and not proof of anything anymore than you can prove a close relationship between Obama & Ayers by anything other than innuendo and supposition.

[hblask 1]

I think the lesson in all of this is that you have to suck a lot of d*** to run for president, and all the candidates have people in their past who they'd rather not be associated with. If you went around publicly denouncing everyone who has a shady past and disqualified them from raising money for you, you would not rise above local dog catcher.

[irishguy 14]

You have your head in the sand... He condemend them when he had to politicallyOh wait.. I thought it was just some guy that lives in his neighborhood... why condemn that guy..

My head is in the sand? Could you find an Illinois democrat that you couldn't draw to a connection with Ayers? Likely not, but that doesn't mean that Obama and Ayers are sitting around planning on how to destroy America but that is likely the only answer that will satisfy you. Where is your outrage at Palin who is under investigation for illegal actions? Where is your outrage at the Palin's for the connection to the AIP? Or do these things not matter because they involve your candidate?

[neretva 0]

Guilt by association IS a relevant tactic, but should be unnecessary in view of the fact that Obama's stated policy positions, available on his website, clearly identify him as an ardent Socialist. I don't really care who he hangs out with, he's bad enough all by himself.

[SlapStick 0]

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1026874.html

[keith crime 8]

Who do you think will go down in history as the bigger terrorist Bill Ayers or McCain advisor Henry Kissenger?

[JustDoIt 10]

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1026874.html

As with Wright now it is the same with Ayers.......I DIDN'T KNOW.http://blog1.thejtandbearshow.com/2008/10/...ayers-past.aspx

[irishguy 14]

As with Wright now it is the same with Ayers.......I DIDN'T KNOW.http://blog1.thejtandbearshow.com/2008/10/...ayers-past.aspx

All that he is saying is that he didn't know of Ayers past when he first met him, this is damning how?

[Pot Odds RAC 23]

Who do you think will go down in history as the bigger terrorist Bill Ayers or McCain advisor Henry Kissenger?

Kissinger?Are you going out of your way to be "provocative"? Because before this thread I always viewed you as pretty reasonable - what is it about this topic that make you seem to just want to post extremist stuff like this?

[keith crime 8]

I dont know I apologize - the whole issue just seems so cynical to me it makes me angryI won't post on it anymore

[Pot Odds RAC 23]

I dont know I apologize - the whole issue just seems so cynical to me it makes me angryI won't post on it anymore

Don't know if it is the Economy or what. But this Election season seems way more "tense" than I have ever seen before. You're not alone - I've been guilty of it at times too. Might as well give my own unsolicited apology. Can't hurt. I've got no business calling you out like that. Your views are as valid as mine.

[El Guapo 8]

Don't know if it is the Economy or what. But this Election season seems way more "tense" than I have ever seen before. You're not alone - I've been guilty of it at times too. Might as well give my own unsolicited apology. Can't hurt. I've got no business calling you out like that. Your views are as valid as mine.

100% it is the economy.