navybuttons 15 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 okay, so i was 100 short of 1K since i woke up. went on a super gross run. it was awesome and actually put me in a good mood. if the guy had been any player at all i easily would have lost 100BBs instead of 50. now i'm all pumped to put in a bunch of hands today. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,321 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 Anyone know where you should be @ with VPIP for 6 max games? I'm thinking 25ish?For 4-6 handed my VPIP is around 38 but I'm a calling station who runs lucky. Link to post Share on other sites
chgocubs99 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 Just got to witness this spiceballAbsolute PokerLimit Holdem Ring gameLimit: $5/$106 playersConverterPre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with 2 folds, Hero folds, Button raises, SB calls, BB folds.Flop: (5SB, 2 players)SB checks, Button bets, SB calls.Turn: (3.5BB, 2 players)SB checks, Button bets, SB raises, Button 3-bets, SB calls.River: (9.5BB, 2 players)SB bets, Button raises, SB calls all-in $1.68.Uncalled bets: 0.83BB returned to Button.Results:Final pot: 11.84BBButton has JJ, SB has K 9 Bad beat jackpot??? Link to post Share on other sites
navybuttons 15 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 this is my new and updated day since i woke up. it ends up in the same place as the last one. oh except there's that little 100BB downswing in it. tilt? not a chance. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 Anyone know where you should be @ with VPIP for 6 max games? I'm thinking 25ish?25 is quite nitty, fwiw.I usually ran around 27/19.2p2ers will tell you 30/20 is good.I was a bit tighter because of the rake at the 3/6 and 5/10 games.I know guys crushing 30/60 who have like 35% VPIP, and then there's Bob who crushes everything, and he's 38%.Basically, when playing limits where rake isn't as much of a factor, which I imagine you will be, play as many hands as you can against bad players, lol. Link to post Share on other sites
checkymcfold 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 loosh are you saying you just hit the BBJ? or were you playing at a non-jackpot table? Link to post Share on other sites
NoSup4U 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 lol limited holdem. Someone told me checky went busto and quit poker and posted to whine about it? ;)Mark Link to post Share on other sites
checkymcfold 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 lol limited holdem. Someone told me checky went busto and quit poker and posted to whine about it? ;)Marki hate you guys. Link to post Share on other sites
checkymcfold 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 raise river or no?Absolute PokerLimit Holdem Ring gameLimit: $3/$66 playersConverterPre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with T T UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, 4 folds, UTG calls.Flop: J 3 2 (7.67SB, 2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.Turn: 9 (4.83BB, 2 players)UTG bets, Hero raises, UTG calls.River: J (8.83BB, 2 players)UTG bets, Hero calls.Results:Final pot: 10.83BBUTG Shows Ks 9hHero Shows 10c 10d Link to post Share on other sites
yahaw 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 raise river or no?Absolute PokerLimit Holdem Ring gameLimit: $3/$66 playersConverterPre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with T T UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, 4 folds, UTG calls.Flop: J 3 2 (7.67SB, 2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.Turn: 9 (4.83BB, 2 players)UTG bets, Hero raises, UTG calls.River: J (8.83BB, 2 players)UTG bets, Hero calls.Results:Final pot: 10.83BBUTG Shows Ks 9hHero Shows 10c 10d with no info on villian hard to say,only 3 hands I can think of you beat here , A9, ,88 or total air? Link to post Share on other sites
checkymcfold 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 with no info on villian hard to say,only 3 hands I can think of you beat here , A9, ,88 or total air?put him on a nine most of the time, honestly. i'm just trying to weigh the odds of a nine calling a raise vs. having to fold if he actually 3bets a jack. Link to post Share on other sites
yahaw 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 put him on a nine most of the time, honestly. i'm just trying to weigh the odds of a nine calling a raise vs. having to fold if he actually 3bets a jack.I think it comes down to reads, if you put him on a 9x raise for sure , he prolly has to pay u off doesnt he? Link to post Share on other sites
jjgoldy5 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 I think it comes down to reads, if you put him on a 9x raise for sure , he prolly has to pay u off doesnt he?I think you get 3-bet more often than called by a 9 fwiw and I don't play LHE Link to post Share on other sites
yahaw 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 I think you get 3-bet more often than called by a 9 fwiw and I don't play LHEand why is that? checky raised turn, villian led out again on river, if checky raises, I cant see villian 3 bet him, more a fold or a crying call, but 3 bet???? Link to post Share on other sites
Sheiky 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 put him on a nine most of the time, honestly. i'm just trying to weigh the odds of a nine calling a raise vs. having to fold if he actually 3bets a jack.Well how many hands does he open UTG that contain a nine?I think it's possible to value raise against ace-high or a lower pocket pair here, but i think given that he opened UTG a nine should be lower part of his range unless he's really loose PF.I like a raise here because from his perspective his line is so weird that you're river raising range is wider than normal hence he probably/hopefully calls lighter to.I think it's super close though. Link to post Share on other sites
checkymcfold 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 that hand is officially not my problem anymore. now i'm more concerned with winning when i flop 2p. any help? Link to post Share on other sites
navybuttons 15 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 raise river or no?i do. a raise is getting looked up by 33-88, A9, K9, Q9, and possibly AK. Link to post Share on other sites
checkymcfold 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 Well how many hands does he open UTG that contain a nine?I think it's possible to value raise against ace-high or a lower pocket pair here, but i think given that he opened UTG a nine should be lower part of his range unless he's really loose PF.I like a raise here because from his perspective his line is so weird that you're river raising range is wider than normal hence he probably/hopefully calls lighter to.I think it's super close though.fwiw, that guy raises any sort of garbage whenever preflop but plays fairly ok postflop. i'd imagine that he puts me on an overpair, honestly, which is why i was semi-concerned about the river donk. Link to post Share on other sites
Sheiky 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 Looking at this again and given that info, i think this is a raise because it's a pretty odd line for him to take with anything, i don't see why he would have a jack here, though i don't see why he would have anything given his actions. Link to post Share on other sites
checkymcfold 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 omfg i am running bad today. like, wow. Link to post Share on other sites
checkymcfold 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 Looking at this again and given that info, i think this is a raise because it's a pretty odd line for him to take with anything, i don't see why he would have a jack here, though i don't see why he would have anything given his actions.i also think that he takes that line with a jack, honestly. most of the decision was concerning how much i hate getting 3bet and the likelihood of him calling a raise with a nine (which in retrospect is dumb. he calls a nine every time. navy, i do think, however, that he is folding underpairs to a nine if i raise.). Link to post Share on other sites
yahaw 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 i also think that he takes that line with a jack, honestly. most of the decision was concerning how much i hate getting 3bet and the likelihood of him calling a raise with a nine (which in retrospect is dumb. he calls a nine every time. navy, i do think, however, that he is folding underpairs to a nine if i raise.).I think you made the right play calling river, thats what I woulda did fwiw. Link to post Share on other sites
CodyHartman 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 I wonder how many bets I lost here. I thought for sure it was going to be a chop. OPPSPokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: ITH Forums)Preflop: Cody is UTG+1 with , . UTG calls, Cody raises, 4 folds, Button calls, 2 folds, UTG calls.Flop: (7.40 SB) , , (3 players)UTG checks, Cody bets, Button calls, UTG folds.Turn: (4.70 BB) (2 players)Cody bets, Button raises, Cody calls.River: (8.70 BB) (2 players)Cody checks, Button bets, Cody calls.Final Pot: 10.70 BBResults in white below: Cody has Qd As (full house, aces full of sixes). Button has 9c 9d (two pair, aces and nines). Outcome: Cody wins 10.70 BB. Link to post Share on other sites
checkymcfold 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 I thought for sure it was going to be a chop.then cap all streets. even if he flips up a3, cap all streets. Link to post Share on other sites
checkymcfold 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 LOL superusers. :)Absolute PokerLimit Holdem Ring gameLimit: $3/$62 playersConverterPre-flop: (2 players) Hero is SB with K 6 Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.Flop: K 5 K (6SB, 2 players)BB checks, Hero bets, BB folds.Uncalled bets: 1SB returned to Hero. Results:Final pot: 3BB Link to post Share on other sites
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