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okay so I'm messing around in the local casino.. I'm in the small blind with AA with the A of clubs....5 limpers to me and I pop it to 15..I get 2 calls, the cut off and button...I've got 200 behind and button has about 175 behind...flop comes Q67 all clubs... the pot is 60 ish.. I put 50 into the pot and the button pushes for 125 more, well I call and he turns over XX.... [removed results]..Did I donk it up here?

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Is it just me or are we committing way too much money postflop here with one pair?I would control the pot a little better after the flop and go from there, just me.
We don't have one pair. We have the highest overpair and the nut flush draw. Snap call. Well played.
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yeah dude, hes definitely got a queen and is trying to get rid of any draws....can you really see somoene flopping a flush and re-raising nearly all of his chips to the pre-flop aggressor?? If he smooth calls the flop then I worry about the flush, cuz the queen is either going all in or folding.

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We don't have one pair. We have the highest overpair and the nut flush draw. Snap call. Well played.
Exactly. We know where the nuts are - in our hand. If he has a set we have 11 outs, if he has two pair we have more than 11 outs, if he has a flush we still have the nut flush draw. Plus we're often just plain ahead. You're never folding for ~100bb with AsAx on XsXsXs flops. Ever.
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But you aren't getting the correct odds to call, 11 outs twice is only break even on the even money bet here 1/4 on turn 1/4 ~ on river plus nothing after. He has outs also so some of these aren't the nuts factor those in so you are beat but what if he had some more money in his stack and so did you and he refrained from the allin then you start to get odds so if you both had deeper stacks and you bet out somewhat more then he would have a problem but I think as it was you made a bad bet.

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I just ran a simulation and if the opp has QQ the AA make 1/10 as much as the wired pair and this is if AA knows what QQ has before the flop. No more then knowing what the turn card will be makes that bet good.

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I just ran a simulation and if the opp has QQ the AA make 1/10 as much as the wired pair and this is if AA knows what QQ has before the flop. No more then knowing what the turn card will be makes that bet good.
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I just ran a simulation and if the opp has QQ the AA make 1/10 as much as the wired pair and this is if AA knows what QQ has before the flop. No more then knowing what the turn card will be makes that bet good.
QFT
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