MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Winnick is a great sign. that is a very nice move. how did they get him so cheap? i cant figure out how he only got 1yr for 1.3mill. I think he is an excellent 3rd/4th line player. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 that is a very nice move. how did they get him so cheap? i cant figure out how he only got 1yr for 1.3mill. I think he is an excellent 3rd/4th line player. Home Town Discount Toronto Sun @TheTorontoSun 44m Joining hometown @MapleLeafs 'every kid’s dream,' @Danwinnik34 says. http://bit.ly/1xq8qyu pic.twitter.com/aCoILMMvKN Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted July 29, 2014 Author Share Posted July 29, 2014 Our bottom 6 is going to be a gigantic improvement over last year. If they can somehow fix the Bozak-on-the-first-line conundrum, and fire Carlyle as soon as possible, then there might be hope for this season after all. Huge improvement. There is going to be a good battle for bottom six. I admit defending Orr and Mclaren wasn't very smart. Players who can actually play hockey and score 10-15 goals a year are great improvement. Have improved bottom 6 and added much needed defensive defencemen. Bozak isn't a top 1c like Crosby , Towes etc. But most teams don't have two elite wingers like Kessel and JVR on top line. He also isn't as bad as people make him out to be. Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Home Town Discount seems more like home town 50%-75% off sale. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted July 29, 2014 Author Share Posted July 29, 2014 David Booth Daniel Winnik Mike Santorelli Leo Komarov Matt Frattin Petri Kontiola Peter Holland Troy Brodie Carter Ashton Colton Orr All fighting for bottom six spots. Add in Clarkson if Nylander shocks and makes team. Injuries happen and any of these guys can fit in when needed. That's huge improvement from last year. Bolland and Kulemin were good but much more expensive and Bolland barely played. Link to post Share on other sites
Dubey 1,035 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 David Booth Daniel Winnik Mike Santorelli Leo Komarov Matt Frattin Petri Kontiola Peter Holland Troy Brodie Carter Ashton I deleted the name that's not even worth mentioning. that's the bottom 6 that I would like to see. Possibly swapping out Kontiola for Ashton or Frattin depending on how he looks. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I would have Frattin ahead of Holland, but to be honest, I didnt watch Holland a lot last year and I recall you guys saying he looked good. I would also have Frattin ahead of Booth. I used to like Booths game, but he has looked awful to me whenever I watched Van the last couple of years. Hope he bounces back in Toronto, he always seemed to be a full effort, skilled player in Florida. I feel bad that it seems the concussions are what got to him. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Chris Johnston @reporterchris · 22m Jake Gardiner has signed a $20.25M, five-year extension with the #leafs. Gives him a $4.05M AAV. Michael Grange @michaelgrange · 16m Feel safe saying that Gardiner era with Leafs will outlast Carlyle era. Link to post Share on other sites
Dubey 1,035 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 love the deal. I was hoping for like 6yrs x 4.5 or somehting similar. This is perfect. I think this will turn out far superior than doing a 2 yr 7 million bridge contract. Link to post Share on other sites
Dubey 1,035 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I honestly think he is immediately underpaid at 4m. He has the potential to be significantly underpaid as early as this year depending on how Carlyle/future Leafs coach uses him. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 love the deal. I was hoping for like 6yrs x 4.5 or somehting similar. This is perfect. I think this will turn out far superior than doing a 2 yr 7 million bridge contract. I honestly think he is immediately underpaid at 4m. He has the potential to be significantly underpaid as early as this year depending on how Carlyle/future Leafs coach uses him. Really not used to saying good things about the decisions the Leaf's front office are making Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 Gardiner has potential it win a Norris. Great deal. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Love the solid bottom-6 signings. Love Gardiner's long deal. Looks like the Leafs have me back as a fan this year, which is exciting for me! More valuable to the leafs this year (ignoring dollars) - Winnik or Clarkson? Link to post Share on other sites
Dubey 1,035 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Depends how hard they force feed Clarkson into top minutes. If Clarkson ends up taking significant minutes away from better players (cough jay mcclement), then winnik is the more valuable player, or rather the less detrimental player. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 Depends how hard they force feed Clarkson into top minutes. If Clarkson ends up taking significant minutes away from better players (cough jay mcclement), then winnik is the more valuable player, or rather the less detrimental player. I am prepared to give Clarkson a mulligan ...Lets see what happens this year... Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 Good news is that now we have signed all our players that we need to.. Bad news is that we are right at the CAP right now..But I really like the depth that we have... Link to post Share on other sites
gruven 530 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Good news is that now we have signed all our players that we need to.. Bad news is that we are right at the CAP right now..But I really like the depth that we have... And they're stuck at the cap unless they move someone. Every one of the players listed above as 3/4 line guys are ALL on one way deals. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 And they're stuck at the cap unless they move someone. Every one of the players listed above as 3/4 line guys are ALL on one way deals. I believe the rule is you can demote a player and get $900000 cap relief. Most cases for these players is either more or most of the cap space. Waiver rules though might cause them to lose player Link to post Share on other sites
gruven 530 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I believe the rule is you can demote a player and get $900000 cap relief. Most cases for these players is either more or most of the cap space. Waiver rules though might cause them to lose player Yeah, you're right. Players would have to clear waivers in some circumstances. Link to post Share on other sites
pezeveng 207 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Michael Grange @michaelgrange · 16m Feel safe saying that Gardiner era with Leafs will outlast Carlyle era. Why do these media guys have to throw a negative twist on everything. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Why do these media guys have to throw a negative twist on everything. to me that is a positive Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Analytics suggest Jake Gardiner is exceptional, and that he should be unleashed 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Dubey 1,035 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Analytics suggest Jake Gardiner is exceptional, and that he should be unleashed Analytics, also: eyeballs. Link to post Share on other sites
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Zach6668 513 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Lazy work. Subban shoots right. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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