eYank 0 Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 They can't be that bad can they? Lets see if I can shift the Turbo SNG rush I'm on right now across to a MTT. I'm guessing no, but I'd feel bad if I didn't at least try!the play is sooooo bad, like if u can just catch some hands you will almost always get paid off (@ least the way my tourney was playing out)im still steaming from it and probably wont be playing any poker again until sunday Link to post Share on other sites
Dubey 1,035 Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 If you actually think they aren't +EV, you are retarded. The play is horrible, yes, the structure is horrible, yes. But, in poker, there is still good decision making and bad decision making at every blind level and every M level. The better players can make a lot of money in these things long-term. Plus, they are over in about 1/3 of the time as a regular 180-man.just understand and accept that after 15 minutes it becomes entirely about preflop play. Link to post Share on other sites
qyayqi 11 Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 If you actually think they aren't +EV, you are retarded. The play is horrible, yes, the structure is horrible, yes. But, in poker, there is still good decision making and bad decision making at every blind level and every M level. The better players can make a lot of money in these things long-term. Plus, they are over in about 1/3 of the time as a regular 180-man.just understand and accept that after 15 minutes it becomes entirely about preflop play.this guy is correct.too bad pre-flop isn't my strongest area. it ranks about equal with my post-flop play. after the initial round of betting, but before the flop is out, that time when the dealer straightens the muck a little to the side... this is my time to shine. Link to post Share on other sites
Jambot 0 Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Out about 60th. Surprisingly standard stuff on the whole. No really extreme madness from anyone. Doubled up with pocket aces, bought the blinds with AQ suited, that was it as far as any kind of hands though which didn't help.I made a bad shove with AJ and 8m into an UTG raise (which turned out to be KK, and I kinda knew it was gonna be a decent PP) but I was running in about 50th so had to get going at some point and I'd been so card dead it felt like the time.I'll have another go for sure. Link to post Share on other sites
Jambot 0 Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 You're so wise. You're like a miniature Buddha, covered in hair. (Oh and I'm 0-3 in these now and my patience has worn thin!) Link to post Share on other sites
jcashx36x 0 Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 WHo here has the most success playing this donkfest? Hopefully it wont be long till someone finds the strategy to beat this sng, if its even possible Link to post Share on other sites
total_con12 0 Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 On the whole I'm still pretty pissed these replaced the 11 180's... Link to post Share on other sites
Cappy37 0 Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 WHo here has the most success playing this donkfest? Hopefully it wont be long till someone finds the strategy to beat this sng, if its even possibleJust play the field.. Offer anyone from the forum signing up for one 2.5 to 1 odds against him or her cashing. You'd have to come out way ahead in the long run.I can't fathom anything involving clicking the "register" button resulting in long term profits in these.They are a lot of fun to watch, if that's any consolation.It's like watching porno, but fast-forwarding through all the dialog. Link to post Share on other sites
Jambot 0 Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 The more I think about these the more the 2.5 - 1 action against others entering them seems to be a good tip to be honest. Without hands (or a terrifying amount of luck) you are going to be playing a vast amount of the tourney like the very end of a SNG if you want to get deep, which is tough enough against 4 or 5 people, let alone a full table. Even if working out when to shove and the shove range of opponents is a strength of your game then the amount of times you have to do it in these and the unpredictability of the opponents makes variance a much greater threat. Even with good hands or good luck and one of the biggest stacks you're never that comfortable. You never have enough of an m to play with complete freedom. You have to take risks.Mind you, I've not got deep yet, only made it to the bubble zone once, so perhaps I'm missing a trick somewhere. Link to post Share on other sites
total_con12 0 Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 In my opinion the "trick" is to play as few hands as possible, see even fewer flops and just hope for the best. You can literally play only four or five hands and hit the final 18 with an avg stack. It's sick, but it's true. Also limping with AA and KK in EP when the blinds are huge is incredibly +EV, someone will certainly raise or push. Link to post Share on other sites
Cappy37 0 Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Also limping with AA and KK in EP when the blinds are huge is incredibly +EV, someone will certainly raise or push.It's because the squeeze play is so darn effective and +EV, obv. Link to post Share on other sites
bobbywithani 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 I like these now. Link to post Share on other sites
Cappy37 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 I like these now.I always knew you were one sick puppy. Electric Six linkage non-withstanding. Link to post Share on other sites
zander24 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 just loaded up my first one of these. im going to fail Link to post Share on other sites
bobbywithani 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 just loaded up my first one of these. im going to failregister in the next one, I will play with you if I don't pass out first. Link to post Share on other sites
zander24 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 register in the next one, I will play with you if I don't pass out first.in 64037007 Link to post Share on other sites
bobbywithani 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 in 64037007wooohoooo party!!!!!!!. Link to post Share on other sites
zander24 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 PokerStars Game #12617237182: Tournament #64036074, $11+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2007/10/14 - 05:11:06 (ET)*** SHOW DOWN ***gagz420: shows [Ac Jh] (three of a kind, Jacks)linesy: shows [As Kd] (two pair, Kings and Jacks)gagz420 said, "sorry mate"gagz420 collected 7534 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 7534 | Rake 0 Board [Js Jc 6d Ks 4h]Seat 1: EvanLongoria folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: siac0 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: franko1980 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: gradus ajax (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: gagz420 (small blind) showed [Ac Jh] and won (7534) with three of a kind, JacksSeat 7: linesy (big blind) showed [As Kd] and lost with two pair, Kings and JacksSeat 9: foldieboy folded before Flopthis tournament cant be +EV Link to post Share on other sites
zander24 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 *** SUMMARY ***Total pot 5165 Main pot 660. Side pot 4505. | Rake 0 Board [Jh Th 6d Ks Kh]Seat 1: batman3000 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: JSA53 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: adambro folded on the FlopSeat 4: cheriewiz (button) showed [Kc Jd] and won (5165) with a full house, Kings full of JacksSeat 5: casimodo (small blind) showed [8s 8d] and lost with two pair, Kings and EightsSeat 6: linesy (big blind) showed [Qh 3h] and lost with a flush, King highSeat 7: xxbigmäcxx folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: Mico05 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: fastesho folded before Flop (didn't bet)definatly not +ev Link to post Share on other sites
outsider13 0 Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 I like turbos too, if you can be a card rack for just a small while you can cruise for most of the tourney, and you also tend to have your mediocre hands up against less-than-mediocre hands.Looking forward to trying these when I finally get some funds on Stars.Gl, let me know how that goes! Link to post Share on other sites
HighwayStar 8 Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 It's all been downhill since here Link to post Share on other sites
Tehtoe 3 Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 STILL WAITING ON THOSE FUNDSAlso, excellent assessment by me on turbo tournaments. Link to post Share on other sites
JustLikeNegs 1 Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 cant believe ive never seen these until now! awesome Link to post Share on other sites
tbrick412 0 Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 In this for a lol before I go to bed.5th hand in , A2 SUITED! goes all in pf and runs into aces.....I like the look of this.did you get your lol? Link to post Share on other sites
HighwayStar 8 Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 I guess I did! Link to post Share on other sites
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