BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 Those are all Doug Stanhope. Are you familiar with DS's wonder, D? Because I think he's up your alley, moreso than he is mine. And I can't really listen to other comedians, anymore.wasn't he that guy who went on the manshow after kimmel left? If so, then I'm just barely aware of who he is, if not, then.. I have no idea who he is.. but I like his views on suicide. Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtydutch 8 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 wasn't he that guy who went on the manshow after kimmel left? If so, then I'm just barely aware of who he is, if not, then.. I have no idea who he is.. but I like his views on suicide.Yeah, that was him. He did mostly the sickest, best gross-out jokes I've ever heard, about ****ing tranny hookers and whatnot, and then did the Manshow for two years. That whole experience embittered him ("some religious fanatics and tribal people believe that a camera can steal year soul. I thought it was crazy until I did the Man Show") and turned him into (not to sound like a cliche) the next logical evolutionary step from Bill Hicks. He's crude, vicious, spiteful, nihilistic, and brilliant. Here are some links. There not the greatest, but you should get a feel for his general tone, anyway.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t2mMMp7bjU It takes a little while to get into him, so if you don't hate him, surf around a bit and watch as many as you can. Link to post Share on other sites
coesillian 0 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 what a doushe (is it politically correct to bash on suicidal people, i guess if they are celebrities they don't really count as people, they owe it to us to stay alive)selfish jerk um, you're the douche.. who are you to say how much pain someone is suicidal should have to live with, particularly someone you don't even know?unless you were just joking, then I'm the douche.I think calling a suicide selfish is redundant, of course it's selfish ( unless it's like a suicide bomber, or something), so what? ya i don't use the sw nearly enough, but I thought "if they are celebrities they don't really count as people" made it obvious that I was kidding.now go take a shower Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 So what the hell? Now it's coming out that he's been a well known coke and heroin abuser for a long time now?Wilson visited a St. Monica church in his neighborhood on August 23, out of either devotion or desperation. Three days later, actor Luke Wilson, 35, found his brother in his Santa Monica, California, home with his left wrist slashed, having ingested a quantity of pills.While the news stunned Owen's fans, members of his and Hudson's inner circles were reportedly all too aware of his private struggles with depression and addiction to cocaine and heroin. According to sources close to the actor, his downward spiral only worsened after his June split from Hudson, 28."We always thought he was just too fun-loving, but now it's obvious he was just dealing with way too much to handle," says a family friend.Hopefully he'll get some help or something, guy's starting to sound like a sad John Belushi. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 Depression is an awful, serious disease.I <3 Owen Wilson, so I wish him all the best. Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 0 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 I don't know why people are making such a big deal of this..people get killed and raped everyday, not to mention we're in a war..He was probably involved in illegal gambling. Link to post Share on other sites
SBriand 4 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 He was probably involved in illegal gambling dog fighting.FYP Link to post Share on other sites
LongLiveYorke 38 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 As Per The Vick Threads: Any time a celebrity acts out, we're not allowed to discuss it because, well, obv much more serious things are happening minute by minute in this world of ours.Damn. I'm usually good at understanding irony. Sorry, DDIDM. Link to post Share on other sites
LongLiveYorke 38 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 So what the hell? Now it's coming out that he's been a well known coke and heroin abuser for a long time now?Nose was a dead giveaway. Link to post Share on other sites
Miguel McHarris 0 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 I don't know just where I'm goingBut I'm gonna try for the kingdom, if I can'Cause it makes me feel like I'm a manWhen I put a spike into my veinAnd I'll tell ya, things aren't quite the sameWhen I'm rushing on my runAnd I feel just like Jesus' sonAnd I guess that I just don't knowAnd I guess that I just don't knowI have made the big decisionI'm gonna try to nullify my life'Cause when the blood begins to flowWhen it shoots up the dropper's neckWhen I'm closing in on deathAnd you can't help me not, you guysAnd all you sweet girls with all your sweet silly talkYou can all go take a walkAnd I guess that I just don't knowAnd I guess that I just don't knowI wish that I was born a thousand years agoI wish that I'd sail the darkened seasOn a great big clipper shipGoing from this land here to thatIn a sailor's suit and capAway from the big cityWhere a man can not be freeOf all of the evils of this townAnd of himself, and those aroundOh, and I guess that I just don't knowOh, and I guess that I just don't knowHeroin, be the death of meHeroin, it's my wife and it's my lifeBecause a mainer to my veinLeads to a center in my headAnd then I'm better off than deadBecause when the smack begins to flowI really don't care anymoreAbout all the Jim-Jim's in this townAnd all the politicians makin' busy soundsAnd everybody puttin' everybody else downAnd all the dead bodies piled up in mounds'Cause when the smack begins to flowThen I really don't care anymoreAh, when the heroin is in my bloodAnd that blood is in my headThen thank God that I'm as good as deadThen thank your God that I'm not awareAnd thank God that I just don't careAnd I guess I just don't knowAnd I guess I just don't know Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings7 0 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 It is widely known that almost everyone in the world has at one point thought about suicide. There is no black and white when it comes to this subject. Just give the man his privacy and let him try to get his life right in private. Isn't that what you would want if you were him? Link to post Share on other sites
troyomac 0 Posted August 29, 2007 Author Share Posted August 29, 2007 It is widely known that almost everyone in the world has at one point thought about suicide. There is no black and white when it comes to this subject. Just give the man his privacy and let him try to get his life right in private. Isn't that what you would want if you were him?You're right. How dare people talk about someone who has willingly put them selves in the public eye for many years. And Owen Wilson's probably been lurking this forum for a while now, so it'll suck when he reads this. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 ya i don't use the sw nearly enough, but I thought "if they are celebrities they don't really count as people" made it obvious that I was kidding.now go take a showerLooks like i'm the douche, then. In my defense, I was pretty delirious with needing to go to sleep, and I did hedge my bet by leaving the " i'm a douche" part in there.. It's just that the right to people to commit suicide is something I feel passionately about. Unless I'm lucky enough to die instantly, in like a car crash or a heart attack or in my sleep, I'm sure I'm going to commit suicide some day. I'm not going to bravely fight a losing battle with cancer for a year, watching my body slowly fade away and living in constant pain. I'm not going to get a false hip and a false knee and piss out of a bag, and wear a diper and live in a nursing home waiting to die. I'm just not. I hope my friends and family understand that I don't wish to live in pain and misery, and that being able to choose how I go out is a beatuiful thing, but if now * shrugs* It's my life, not there's, they don't get to decide for me. Link to post Share on other sites
Zilla 0 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 It is widely known that almost everyone in the world has at one point thought about suicide. There is no black and white when it comes to this subject. Just give the man his privacy and let him try to get his life right in private. Isn't that what you would want if you were him?There's a huge difference between thinking and doing, doing shows the inability to deal with pain. I honestly wished he succeed because the burden he's now putting on his family is a lot harder to deal with than putting him in the ground. Just my take, I've seen what it has done to my folks when one of their children attempted to end his life, its ruin their marriage, and ruined the family, and I stop talking to him, I really feel his death would have solidified the family in an opposite direction than what his attempts did. Life is a gift it should be treated as one, and if you want to destroy it, then Man up and do it, but if you survive, all I'll do all I can into supporting you to do it again by forgetting who you are. Another range of thoughts hereLooks like i'm the douche, then. In my defense, I was pretty delirious with needing to go to sleep, and I did hedge my bet by leaving the " i'm a douche" part in there.. It's just that the right to people to commit suicide is something I feel passionately about. Unless I'm lucky enough to die instantly, in like a car crash or a heart attack or in my sleep, I'm sure I'm going to commit suicide some day. I'm not going to bravely fight a losing battle with cancer for a year, watching my body slowly fade away and living in constant pain. I'm not going to get a false hip and a false knee and piss out of a bag, and wear a diper and live in a nursing home waiting to die. I'm just not. I hope my friends and family understand that I don't wish to live in pain and misery, and that being able to choose how I go out is a beatuiful thing, but if now * shrugs* It's my life, not there's, they don't get to decide for me.I think your way of thinking is the easy way out... I think what best defines us as a person is how we handle our pain. I would rather be known as someone who took the long hard fight to death and died with dignity and respect for my creator. Yes I'm getting into religion on that one, but I believe the good and the bad we deal with in life are equal gifts that we as humans must endure to really understand why we're here, why be selfish and end it without a fight? For those who don't believe in some final destination after death, why not be remembered for your personal courage to stand up and fight, instead of being remembered as the guy who gave up? Link to post Share on other sites
Loismustdie 0 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 There's a huge difference between thinking and doing, doing shows the inability to deal with pain. I honestly wished he succeed because the burden he's now putting on his family is a lot harder to deal with than putting him in the ground. Just my take, I've seen what it has done to my folks when one of their children attempted to end his life, its ruin their marriage, and ruined the family, and I stop talking to him, I really feel his death would have solidified the family in an opposite direction than what his attempts did. Life is a gift it should be treated as one, and if you want to destroy it, then Man up and do it, but if you survive, all I'll do all I can into supporting you to do it again by forgetting who you are. Another range of thoughts hereI think your way of thinking is the easy way out... I think what best defines us as a person is how we handle our pain. I would rather be known as someone who took the long hard fight to death and died with dignity and respect for my creator. Yes I'm getting into religion on that one, but I believe the good and the bad we deal with in life are equal gifts that we as humans must endure to really understand why we're here, why be selfish and end it without a fight? For those who don't believe in some final destination after death, why not be remembered for your personal courage to stand up and fight, instead of being remembered as the guy who gave up? Try getting a fast food nation to get that one, although I see where Big D is coming from. Guarantee the people that loved someone who commited suicide generally don't go,"****, yeah, good choice. Long time coming. Now we can go about our business." Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Mexico 4,219 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 Something to do with a rim jobyeah, he's a chronic butt licker. Link to post Share on other sites
Zilla 0 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Try getting a fast food nation to get that one, although I see where Big D is coming from. Guarantee the people that loved someone who commited suicide generally don't go,"****, yeah, good choice. Long time coming. Now we can go about our business."What I'm trying to say is now the family has more pressures of having to help the "victim" go on about his life, and that will ruin, destroy families, unlike in death the family will have a grieving process and that is less time consuming than trying to fix someone. Yes its a hard thing to say, but sometimes its better to sacrifice 1 for the good of the many. That person death will force everyone to pay a heavy price, but that price allows us to celebrate what life is, and how we should treasure the gift that was given to us. Also I believe the person whose attempted suicide is a rotten piece of bread, which has already spread some mold to the other breads, but not enough to destroy the loaf before complete consumption, but allowed to stay around the remaining loaf it'll infect and destroy it quickly. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 For those who don't believe in some final destination after death, why not be remembered for your personal courage to stand up and fight, instead of being remembered as the guy who gave up?Why the **** would i care how I'm remembered at all if I'm dead and there's no final destination? I'm sorry, once I'm dead, how I'm remembered means fck all to me. Putting up a "brave and honorable" fight is a bunch of garbage.. It's only benefit is for the inspiration of others, it's of no comfort to me as my intestines rot a foot at a time. Fck that, find some other hero/sucker willing to live his last days/months/years in excruciating pain. Easy way out ftw. Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Some great quotes on suicide:"Life's like a movie: it's you're half way through, and you hate every second of it, it's probably not going to get a whole lot better.""Life's like animal porn: it's not for everybody.""If suicide were really the 'coward's way out,' we wouldn't have to worry about overpopulation, because there aren't a lot of 'brave' people around."Woody Allen: "I don't know from suicide, y'know. Where I grew up in Brooklyn we were too unhappy to commit suicide." Link to post Share on other sites
fighter 4 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Why the **** would i care how I'm remembered at all if I'm dead and there's no final destination? I'm sorry, once I'm dead, how I'm remembered means fck all to me. Putting up a "brave and honorable" fight is a bunch of garbage.. It's only benefit is for the inspiration of others, it's of no comfort to me as my intestines rot a foot at a time. Fck that, find some other hero/sucker willing to live his last days/months/years in excruciating pain. Easy way out ftw.I understand all what you are saying but to give up on the only thing you have.I believe in euthanasia but your giving up when times get tough is sad. Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Mexico 4,219 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 I believe in euthanasia but your giving up when times get tough is sad.what do young chinese people have to do with Owen Wilson? Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtydutch 8 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 what do young chinese people have to do with Owen Wilson?Man, that pun works extra awesome in writing. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 I understand all what you are saying but to give up on the only thing you have.I believe in euthanasia but your giving up when times get tough is sad.I don't think it's sad at all. I think there's something really empowering about it, actually. Link to post Share on other sites
LongLiveYorke 38 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 I don't think it's sad at all. I think there's something really empowering about it, actually.I agree with what you're saying, but if you don't believe in an afterlife, wouldn't any sort of life be better than an eternity of nothingness? I mean, there's going to be plenty of time for nothingness. I figure as long as I'm not in constant unbearable pain (ie throwing up all day long because there's so much pain) and as long as I can lie in bed, even hooked up to a hundred machines, and watch Seinfeld reruns, then life's worth living. Obviously it's a personal choice, and one that I believe people should be able to make. I was just curious as to your philosophy on the subject. Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtydutch 8 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 I agree with what you're saying, but if you don't believe in an afterlife, wouldn't any sort of life be better than an eternity of nothingness? I mean, there's going to be plenty of time for nothingness. I figure as long as I'm not in constant unbearable pain (ie throwing up all day long because there's so much pain) and as long as I can lie in bed, even hooked up to a hundred machines, and watch Seinfeld reruns, then life's worth living. Obviously it's a personal choice, and one that I believe people should be able to make. I was just curious as to your philosophy on the subject.I can see how some people are so miserable that no life is better than their life. Link to post Share on other sites
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