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Makes sense. Thanks for clarifying (both of you).

Hmm... Why does the converter say there are four players on the flop (when there are three), and three players on the turn and river (when it's hu)?Zach and Actuary, what are you trying to accomplish with the c/r?

You're soooooo far from the truth....

As everyone said, fold the flop. With just a backdoor flush draw (roughly 1.5 outs), you need to be getting around 30-to-1. This pot isn't nearly big enough.

Sorry, I missed that. I think it's much closer then. Even if it gets capped behind us pf, we're still looking at about 6-to-1. I think I call, especially because it looks like there will be a lot of action if we hit our set.

I fold this preflop. I'm not calling 3 cold with 88.I fold this flop. I think you're looking at 2 outs and the pot is only offering 10-to-1.

do any of you guys have a comment about this river?

Nice hand. This looks like an example straight out of SSHE. The check-raise sucks, but I think you have to call.

Do you fold this river?

Pre-flop is debatable. I usually just go ahead and raise here. I don't think I mind the limp, but I think I am being affected by later action.Flop: I bet out too. I don't see what check-raising would accomplish.Turn: It sure looks like BB hit his flush, but the pot definitely justfies calling several bets to draw to 9 outs.River:I think this is the most interesting part of the hand, and I'd like to hear what others say. My first thought was to fold, but then I pulled out my trusty SSHE: "So when the pot is large, there are players behind you, and you have a mediocre hand, but there is a

GTSD = go to showdown?how about now?Preflop: Hero is UTG with J, J. Hero raises, 1 fold, MP1 calls, 3 folds, SB 3-bets, 1 fold, Hero calls, MP1 calls.Flop: (10 SB) 3, 2, 5(3 players)SB bets, Hero raises, MP1 calls, SB calls.Turn: (8 BB) Q(3 players)SB bets, Hero calls, MP1 raises, SB calls, Hero ??

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (8 handed) Preflop: Hero is UTG with J, J. Hero raises, 1 fold, MP1 calls, 3 folds, SB 3-bets, 1 fold, Hero calls, MP1 calls.Flop: (10 SB) 3, 2, 5(3 players)SB bets, Hero raises, MP1 calls, SB calls.Turn: (8 BB) Q(3 players)SB bets, Hero ????

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Screech, I'm confused. Is this really a call? We just have two overs right? With three outs and the possibility of it being raised behind us, I thought this was a clear fold.

Flop: Depends on your read right? If he's weak, you can reraise and hope for a freecard. Without that info, I think I just call.*****replies*******For what it's worth, SSHE says AQs is a reraise on loose tables and a call on tight tables. Like respec said, "Unless MP3 is known to be aggro and a light raiser I would probably just call the preflop raise."

Raising is the standard SSHE play isn't it? Is there any reason not to do this?***replies****Interesting line Screech, I need to think about it. I'm wondering why you said we have no fold equity on the flop even though we raised pf. Is it because the board is so coordinated?

So going for overcalls here wouldn't be for equity. That means if it gets raised behind me, I shouldn't try to jam it like I would if the board wasn't paired and there were this many callers?Thanks Actuary for showing me how to fix my post. I've been wondering/bothered by that.

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxPreflop: Hero is MP3 with A , 5 . 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, Hero calls, 1 fold, Button raises, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.Flop: (8.50 SB) 9 , 9 , T (4 players)BB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero ???Call for equity, or raise to fold other A's + possible freecard?

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxPreflop: Hero is UTG with K , A . Hero raises, 4 folds, CO calls, 3 folds.Flop: (5.50 SB) 8 , 2 , A (2 players)Hero bets, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, CO caps, Hero calls.Turn: (6.75 BB) J (2 players)Hero bets, CO raises, Hero calls.River: (10.75 BB) 3 (2 players)Hero bets, CO raises, Hero calls.Final Pot: 14.75 BBI've heard you guys talk about being wa/wb. I figured that was the case here, but I couldn't remember how you were suppose to play it. It felt like it was going to be capped on every street, so I decided to split the

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxPreflop: Hero is Button with K , Q . UTG raises, 2 folds, MP1 calls, 3 folds, Hero calls, 2 folds.Flop: (7.50 SB) 2 , K , J (3 players)UTG bets, MP1 raises, Hero ??Final Pot: 6.75 BBI couldn't remember if calling two cold was for KQs only, or if KQo fell into that category. Regardless, what do I do on the flop?

Good read. Thanks

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