cwik 0 Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Alright, this is my second hand at the table. Never played with villain before.Is turn c/r, c/f, b/c, b/f?No Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $1/$26 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $263.25UTG+1: $175.32CO: $218.10Button: $194Hero: $198BB: $93.57Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with :D UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Button calls, Hero raises to $11, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Button calls.Flop: ($46, 4 players)Hero bets $36, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, Button folds.Turn: ($118, 2 players)Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $60, Hero ??? Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Alright, this is my second hand at the table. Never played with villain before.Is turn c/c, c/f, b/c, b/f?No Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $1/$26 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $263.25UTG+1: $175.32CO: $218.10Button: $194Hero: $198BB: $93.57Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with :D UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Button calls, Hero raises to $11, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Button calls.Flop: ($46, 4 players)Hero bets $36, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, Button folds.Turn: ($118, 2 players)Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $60, Hero ???Checking opened the door. Calling this means getting stacked with one pair with a flush on the board at the turn and four people having seen the flop. I really don't like calling here. Go away quietly. Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 With 3 limpers I think if you're gonna raise from the small blind here, you have to make it a lot more expensive than $11 to see the flop. As the above poster said, with 4 to the flop and the straight and flush draws out there, you can let this go. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL INNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
nomad_monad 0 Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 as others said, raising more pf would be good.on the flop, with 3 other players in the hand and the board being so draw heavy, i'd full pot it.c/f the turn. the only thing you beat is Tx or a bluff. really doubt UTG+1 decided to float on you in a multiway pot, not closing the action. also, Tx checks behind here a lot. villain's committed to the hand when he bets the turn - give him some credit until he shows you otherwise.heads up, you could make an argument for a CRAI. Link to post Share on other sites
Money022 0 Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL INNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Honestly? And why is this? Link to post Share on other sites
Snamuh 0 Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL INNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Joke?Maybe if we had the Ah.... Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL INNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Drunk. Obv. Link to post Share on other sites
cwik 0 Posted November 9, 2007 Author Share Posted November 9, 2007 Honestly? And why is this?heh, I think he just knows the results already. Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 i bet at least the pot on the flop and i c/c the turn Link to post Share on other sites
David_Nicoson 1 Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Checking opened the door. Calling this means getting stacked with one pair with a flush on the board at the turn and four people having seen the flop. I really don't like calling here. Go away quietly.Checking doesn't cause him to have the flush, so I'm not following why the check is bad. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Checking doesn't cause him to have the flush, so I'm not following why the check is bad.He's a big proponent of the whole "I opened the door to let him take it away so he must have it" school. Either that, or the "I checked and he bet becuase I checked so I can't fold now" school. Both have crappy classes.I wasn't drunk when I posted that. I did already know results. What I told cwik in AIM was that I'd probably just flip a coin in this situation, but I'd lean slightly towards shoving. I'd never bet the turn here FWIW unless I knew the villain was a station. Sometimes I c/f and sometimes I CRAI, none of that silly c/cing. Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Checking doesn't cause him to have the flush, so I'm not following why the check is bad.This also filled up 8-7 FWIW Link to post Share on other sites
David_Nicoson 1 Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 This also filled up 8-7 FWIWYeah, and I think that's why we should overbet the pot on this flop: the turn is hard to play because we don't know what the villain is drawing to. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 He's a big proponent of the whole "I opened the door to let him take it away so he must have it" school. Either that, or the "I checked and he bet becuase I checked so I can't fold now" school. Both have crappy classes.I wasn't drunk when I posted that. I did already know results. What I told cwik in AIM was that I'd probably just flip a coin in this situation, but I'd lean slightly towards shoving. I'd never bet the turn here FWIW unless I knew the villain was a station. Sometimes I c/f and sometimes I CRAI, none of that silly c/cing.I hate it when you people talk about me like I can't read your posts. You all are going to turn me into a cranky old man. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 I hate it when you people talk about me like I can't read your posts. You all are going to turn me into a cranky old man.David asked a question and I answered it, that's all. I honestly don't say anything in here that I don't think that I could reasonably back up with a little rummaging through posts. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 David asked a question and I answered it, that's all. I honestly don't say anything in here that I don't think that I could reasonably back up with a little rummaging through posts. goddamnitget off the grass Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 goddamnitget off the grassGod damn kids and your hippity hop music! Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 goddamnitget off the grassNever smoked in my life. Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 raise to 16 18 preflop.then your hand plays differently./end Link to post Share on other sites
cwik 0 Posted November 12, 2007 Author Share Posted November 12, 2007 I shoved the turn and the villain timebanked then called w/ Link to post Share on other sites
Moneyball16 0 Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Lol. Expert call. Link to post Share on other sites
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