navybuttons 15 Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 suits not important, all relevant cards live (except the 6 burned). villain 1 seems to play razz hands, doesn't like high cards, and plays generally passive w/o a monster. villain 2 is the closest to a live one at the table. i've seen him make bets that don't make sense (naked 87 low hu against a pair on board and a likely made low)7 $3 antes.dealt to hero: (A 5 ) A :spade:villain 1: (XX) 3 villain 2: (XX) 4 villain 1 brings in, 1 fold, hero raises, 3 folds, villain 2 calls, 1 fold, villain 1 calls.($78)4th street: hero: (A 5 ) A 9 (9's are live)villain 1: (XX) 3 3 villain 2:(XX) 4 4 villain 2 bets, villain 1 calls, hero?standard fold? Link to post Share on other sites
scram 1 Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 If it were me, my aces would hit the muck so fast the felt would be smoking behind them. You very well may be dog for high and all but busted for low (runner runner runner).I suppose maybe/possibly there could be a very unlikely scenario based on game play history where I would raise and force one or the other to define at the expense of a bet, but it would be one time in 500 in that circumstance. They would have to be extraordinarily bad players. Link to post Share on other sites
checkymcfold 0 Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 sometimes, i raise/fold here. sometimes, i just muck. since you're playing live, there should probably be enough physical info from your villains to tell you which is the proper play.don't just assume ghosts are pouring out of the closet, though. ask yourself this: is it more likely that these guys hit 2 outers on the high or that they bricked a low draw with those 4th streets? Link to post Share on other sites
Vman96 0 Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 sometimes, i raise/fold here. sometimes, i just muck. since you're playing live, there should probably be enough physical info from your villains to tell you which is the proper play.don't just assume ghosts are pouring out of the closet, though. ask yourself this: is it more likely that these guys hit 2 outers on the high or that they bricked a low draw with those 4th streets?Agreed...but he said villain 2 is the biggest fish at the table. And he bet it...so 4x44 is possible against a stud8 idiot. If you are going to fold it though, now is the time. Tough spot.OTOH, villain 2 had to cold-call a complete, so 4x4 should be fairly unlikely. So raise/folding might be better here. Link to post Share on other sites
rgold79 0 Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 sometimes, i raise/fold here.I was thinking about but this, but those 3's and 4's out of the deck really kill our chances of backing into a decent low. Both villains are at least calling the extra 1/2 bet. Too many weird, bad things going on here so I'm just getting out of the way. Link to post Share on other sites
Marchione 0 Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 its a basic fold however i might think about taking a card on 4th and hope to hit an ace on 5th if not i would fold Link to post Share on other sites
HangukMiguk 8 Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 I was thinking about but this, but those 3's and 4's out of the deck really kill our chances of backing into a decent low. Both villains are at least calling the extra 1/2 bet. Too many weird, bad things going on here so I'm just getting out of the way.No way. You're getting the odds to peel one off, it's more likely in Stud8 that they both have 3 card lows and are just playing the board now. Link to post Share on other sites
TheCinciKid 0 Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 I'm average at best at Stud8, but I really doubt that I'd fold here. There's a lot of money in this pot and I think it's worth peeling a card off. It's possible that one of these two hit trips, but more likely that they made 2 pair at best, and hurt their low draws. FWIW, I'm folding on 6th if I don't catch 2 pair, trips or a low card. Link to post Share on other sites
potatoman 0 Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Fold. You can find much better spots than this. Can't see calling being very profitable long term. Link to post Share on other sites
checkymcfold 0 Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Fold. You can find much better spots than this. Can't see calling being very profitable long term.calling is horrid. if you think you're ahead, raise for value and to verify your read. if you think you're drawing to two outs, fold. Link to post Share on other sites
Omaha Hi/Lo 0 Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 calling is horrid. if you think you're ahead, raise for value and to verify your read. if you think you're drawing to two outs, fold. Link to post Share on other sites
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