Giggidy 0 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 no they don't bugger Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Erased 0 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 buggerWithdraw then deposit?Transferring money will be very hard anyways Link to post Share on other sites
psujohn 0 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 So are double or triple FTP points worth anything if you have rakeback? If you use the points it comes out of your rakeback right? I can never figure out how double points, iron man, deposit bonus and rakeback all interact. Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Erased 0 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 So are double or triple FTP points worth anything if you have rakeback? If you use the points it comes out of your rakeback right? I can never figure out how double points, iron man, deposit bonus and rakeback all interact.Spending points takes from rakeback at a rate of $0.005/point, I think.The more points you get, the higher your Ironman status, and thus bonus you receive.Deposit bonus I'm not sure :)Hope that offers some help, anyways Link to post Share on other sites
pocktdeuces 0 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 WTF POKER!!! WHY YOU GOTTA **** WITH ME SOOOO MUCH??? played somewhat bad for a while...but i mean wtf. so many stacks got traded tonight. Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Erased 0 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 It's always fun to have a table on which you add all the players to your buddy list.Not so fun to play 2,500 hands and still be down 3bi:) Link to post Share on other sites
NoSup4U 0 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 So are double or triple FTP points worth anything if you have rakeback? If you use the points it comes out of your rakeback right? I can never figure out how double points, iron man, deposit bonus and rakeback all interact.If you have rakeback, points allow you to buy items for essentially 27% of retail. So for instance, lets say an iPod is 70K points. So in Tilts eyes the 'retail' value is 70K X .005 = $350. That $350 comes out of your total rake, meaning you don't get rakeback on it, so you lose the 27% you would have made from it in rakeback.So essentially you are paying $350 X .27 = $110 or so for a $350 iPod.Mark Link to post Share on other sites
Suited_Up 2 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 If you have rakeback, points allow you to buy items for essentially 27% of retail. So for instance, lets say an iPod is 70K points. So in Tilts eyes the 'retail' value is 70K X .005 = $350. That $350 comes out of your total rake, meaning you don't get rakeback on it, so you lose the 27% you would have made from it in rakeback.So essentially you are paying $350 X .27 = $110 or so for a $350 iPod.MarkFirst... Spot on.Second, do Ipods really cost $350 now? Link to post Share on other sites
Naismith 0 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 [x] Run well.[ ] Run well.[x] Cwik'd. Link to post Share on other sites
TB17 0 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Our members have made a total of 2,727,077 postsWe have 29,155 registered membersThe newest member is FCP_Bobsigh....which one of you idiots Link to post Share on other sites
NoSup4U 0 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 First... Spot on.Second, do Ipods really cost $350 now?A 32gb iPod Touch is $460 on Amazon, and is 105,000 points in the Tilt store, which is $525. So it probably goes of 'original' retail price or whatever. But in reality that iPod would 'cost' me $142 in real money because of the hit to my rakeback. So its still a smoking deal.Mark Link to post Share on other sites
TB17 0 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Sigh I want my itouch back Link to post Share on other sites
Suited_Up 2 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 I just use my Iphone anyway. But 32GB, I wouldn't even know what to do with all that. Link to post Share on other sites
dtblizz 0 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 So, I am pretty excited about this and wanted to wait to post until I completed my goal and got my laptop backI posted 3 weeks ago asking what I should do with 65k vpp. Pokerstars was going to raise my vip level to buy something since I hadnt played in awhile.Well, I wound up buying the $650 vip bonus and subsequently depositing $600 with which to grind 50nl hoping to release said bonus without losing $600 in the process of trying to win $600.The main issues were: i hadn't played in awhile due to life things...good things of course, I play on a laptop (which crashed almost immediately into the grind), I've never been good at more than 4 tables, and my confidence was low. I decided to start out with 4-6 tables of 6-max 50nl and really my goal was to break even, release bonus, and withdraw money. I just hated the thought of 65k vpp going to waste.Well, I started playing and things were going pretty well. The game seemed pretty easy and I was able to get up to 8 tables on a 19" monitor with tons of overlap and do pretty well. Also, because of my laptop crash I didnt have access to PT. Which means I did most of it without using stats. This actually turned out to be somewhat of a blessing because as you will see on the graph, I was running like shit. At my low I was about 12 buy ins below equity and break even through ~9k hands. Fortunately, I didnt have PT/Pev to prove I was running poorly so I just assumed I was playing poorly and focused more.Once I got about 3/4 of the way my goal changed....I wanted to continue running at a pretty high ptbb and make enough to be rolled for 100nl by the time my bonus hit. I also wanted to become pretty proficient at around 8 tables so that I can play it at 100nl if I want. I also started thinking of long term goals.Earlier this spring I was playing 200nl pretty regularly. I own a very small start up business and withdrew regularly to help support myself. The problem with this was: I left myself no online roll. I told myself I would deposit if I needed to, but in the end I had a small downswing, and was running way too good in life to care about playing poker anymore. So I quit, but I had these fpp's looming over my head....oh the marketing genius that is the casino business.Now, here I am, I have earned the bonus wooooooooohoooooooooooooo. I achieved my goal of being rolled for 100nl by the end of the grind. Now, I get to set some new goals.So here they are:1) Achieve Platinum star this month for the first time! This is tough when juggling a girlfriend, a growing business, and friends.2) Grind 100Nl until I have 40 buyins for 200NL3) Don't withdraw until I have $10k!4) Achieve Supernova by the end of the year...this is pretty worthless right? 5) Drop down if I get below 16-18 buyins at a limit.6) Work on my leaks. I've got an idea of some of my leaks and I think my ptbb could be considerably higher if I could fix them. The most glaring is making crying calls.7) Get a monitor ... or two.That is all I can think of off the top of my head.Hopefully this is interesting to some of you grinders out there! Here is my graph for the 50nl grind to get my bonus! Link to post Share on other sites
Suited_Up 2 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Very nice, Congrats!! Link to post Share on other sites
king1305 0 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Don't you just hate losing close ones?http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/news/story?id=3577150Oh and wtg dtb. Link to post Share on other sites
bbgun 0 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Don't you just hate losing close ones?http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/news/story?id=3577150Oh and wtg dtb.It wasn't even as close as the score made it seem... Link to post Share on other sites
donk4life 34 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Hey.. At least they got one goal in their losses. That's always a victory in my eyes. Link to post Share on other sites
dtblizz 0 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Don't you just hate losing close ones?http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/news/story?id=3577150Oh and wtg dtb.Thanks!and thanks suited! Link to post Share on other sites
Cadam11 0 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comBB ($50)UTG ($53.45)MP ($46.10)CO ($53.25)Hero (Button) ($50)SB ($51.60)Preflop: Hero is Button with 6 , 6 1 fold, MP calls $0.50, CO raises to $2.25, Hero calls $2.25, 2 folds, MP calls $1.75Flop: ($7.50) 3 , 5 , 4 (3 players)MP checks, CO bets $5, Hero??Good spot to raise, or is it flat/fold?I think the raise is fine. If this was UTG raiser with a caller, I doubt I would raise but the since the MP limped the CO could easily be isolating fish with weak hand. How tight/loose is CO? Link to post Share on other sites
Merby 3 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 So, I am pretty excited about this and wanted to wait to post until I completed my goal and got my laptop backI posted 3 weeks ago asking what I should do with 65k vpp. Pokerstars was going to raise my vip level to buy something since I hadnt played in awhile.Well, I wound up buying the $650 vip bonus and subsequently depositing $600 with which to grind 50nl hoping to release said bonus without losing $600 in the process of trying to win $600.The main issues were: i hadn't played in awhile due to life things...good things of course, I play on a laptop (which crashed almost immediately into the grind), I've never been good at more than 4 tables, and my confidence was low. I decided to start out with 4-6 tables of 6-max 50nl and really my goal was to break even, release bonus, and withdraw money. I just hated the thought of 65k vpp going to waste.Well, I started playing and things were going pretty well. The game seemed pretty easy and I was able to get up to 8 tables on a 19" monitor with tons of overlap and do pretty well. Also, because of my laptop crash I didnt have access to PT. Which means I did most of it without using stats. This actually turned out to be somewhat of a blessing because as you will see on the graph, I was running like shit. At my low I was about 12 buy ins below equity and break even through ~9k hands. Fortunately, I didnt have PT/Pev to prove I was running poorly so I just assumed I was playing poorly and focused more.Once I got about 3/4 of the way my goal changed....I wanted to continue running at a pretty high ptbb and make enough to be rolled for 100nl by the time my bonus hit. I also wanted to become pretty proficient at around 8 tables so that I can play it at 100nl if I want. I also started thinking of long term goals.Earlier this spring I was playing 200nl pretty regularly. I own a very small start up business and withdrew regularly to help support myself. The problem with this was: I left myself no online roll. I told myself I would deposit if I needed to, but in the end I had a small downswing, and was running way too good in life to care about playing poker anymore. So I quit, but I had these fpp's looming over my head....oh the marketing genius that is the casino business.Now, here I am, I have earned the bonus wooooooooohoooooooooooooo. I achieved my goal of being rolled for 100nl by the end of the grind. Now, I get to set some new goals.So here they are:1) Achieve Platinum star this month for the first time! This is tough when juggling a girlfriend, a growing business, and friends.2) Grind 100Nl until I have 40 buyins for 200NL3) Don't withdraw until I have $10k!4) Achieve Supernova by the end of the year...this is pretty worthless right? 5) Drop down if I get below 16-18 buyins at a limit.6) Work on my leaks. I've got an idea of some of my leaks and I think my ptbb could be considerably higher if I could fix them. The most glaring is making crying calls.7) Get a monitor ... or two.That is all I can think of off the top of my head.Hopefully this is interesting to some of you grinders out there! Here is my graph for the 50nl grind to get my bonus!It's posts like this that make this thread worth reading.Well done and good luck in crushing your revised goals (...except perhaps the Supernova goal... Juggling everything else in your life right now, I don't think you have a legitimate shot at this one happening in 3 months' time...)Thanks for bringing the thread back on track Link to post Share on other sites
cubsfan44 0 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 I think the raise is fine. If this was UTG raiser with a caller, I doubt I would raise but the since the MP limped the CO could easily be isolating fish with weak hand. How tight/loose is CO?No!edit: unless youre talking preflop. Then..... maybe! Link to post Share on other sites
Vtlaxer09 4 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 No!HI! Link to post Share on other sites
cubsfan44 0 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 HI!Tell that dude whats up. I only got one typing hand. Link to post Share on other sites
donk4life 34 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Tell that dude whats up. I only got one typing hand.Is this a "I'm looking at porn" statement? Or is my head just in the gutter? Link to post Share on other sites
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