Incubus77546 0 Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 If you disagree and hate me, either of you I'll play a 100 HU against. Put your money where your mouth is and embrace Hellmuth's style while I tear it apart.Its kinda like when I disagreed with you when you said Washington RedSkins were gonna make it to the Super Bowl and I told you Seahawks would kill 'em. Link to post Share on other sites
sirch1 0 Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 Hahaha Phil Hellmuth continues to be the laughing stock of poker. Will he make another FT in the WSOP? hell no! Oh, and that real poker player Daniel Negreanu has already made two. I have no respect for people who complain on behalf of Phil because he's getting cold-decked. It happens all the time in poker and someone usually gets the worse half in a HU duel. Maybe, if he changed his weak-tight style and bet larger amounts and with more aggression on the flop and turn, then there would be less river suckouts leading to less tilt and Phil playing more focused. He does it to himself. It's not his style, but the best poker players continuously adapt their style hand-to-hand. In that 5-3 hand, Phil knew bottom two wasn't a great hand and could be in trouble. He should've bet a decent amount(minimum pot-size) on the flop and probably didn't. The call he received signaled his opponent had something and that Phil did not want him seeing the river card. So bet hard on the turn, make a bet that is uncallable when your opponent holds J5 such as 1.5 to 2x the pot. Then you don't get rivered and save many chips. Kowboy Koop and his followers(brvefart - yes immature, but funny) are idiots, the purest of the poker fish(I've seen brveheart play) who love to idolize the worst and continuously have their money taken while constantly lying about how bad they really are. Everyone knows they're idiots and nothing they can ever say will change my or anyone else's opinion. Not one real person Ive talked to believes otherwise. Oh and did I mention Phil Hellmuth lost? Flame away Mr. Koop, it's all you do all day long for all your life. If only you could get paid for it. Little kids and their dreams.This was just another case of the best poker player winning heads up. No big deal. Everyone can go to sleep now. Phil is not a top 200 NL player we all know it. I love raggin on Phil cuz it's so darn easy If you disagree and hate me, either of you I'll play a 100 HU against. Put your money where your mouth is and embrace Hellmuth's style while I tear it apart.i would love to be the laughing stock with 9 bracelets, the record holder for number of cashes and already two deep showings in this years wsop Link to post Share on other sites
PatrickBateman 0 Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 Hahaha Phil Hellmuth continues to be the laughing stock of poker. Will he make another FT in the WSOP? hell no! Oh, and that real poker player Daniel Negreanu has already made two. I have no respect for people who complain on behalf of Phil because he's getting cold-decked. It happens all the time in poker and someone usually gets the worse half in a HU duel. Maybe, if he changed his weak-tight style and bet larger amounts and with more aggression on the flop and turn, then there would be less river suckouts leading to less tilt and Phil playing more focused. He does it to himself. It's not his style, but the best poker players continuously adapt their style hand-to-hand. In that 5-3 hand, Phil knew bottom two wasn't a great hand and could be in trouble. He should've bet a decent amount(minimum pot-size) on the flop and probably didn't. The call he received signaled his opponent had something and that Phil did not want him seeing the river card. So bet hard on the turn, make a bet that is uncallable when your opponent holds J5 such as 1.5 to 2x the pot. Then you don't get rivered and save many chips. Kowboy Koop and his followers(brvefart - yes immature, but funny) are idiots, the purest of the poker fish(I've seen brveheart play) who love to idolize the worst and continuously have their money taken while constantly lying about how bad they really are. Everyone knows they're idiots and nothing they can ever say will change my or anyone else's opinion. Not one real person Ive talked to believes otherwise. Oh and did I mention Phil Hellmuth lost? Flame away Mr. Koop, it's all you do all day long for all your life. If only you could get paid for it. Little kids and their dreams.This was just another case of the best poker player winning heads up. No big deal. Everyone can go to sleep now. Phil is not a top 200 NL player we all know it. I love raggin on Phil cuz it's so darn easy If you disagree and hate me, either of you I'll play a 100 HU against. Put your money where your mouth is and embrace Hellmuth's style while I tear it apart.Can we get a count on your cashes and bracelets please? I mean you're obviously qualified to make these remarks about Phil, you have to have some credibility. Link to post Share on other sites
dirtystacks 0 Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 Maybe, if he changed his weak-tight style and bet larger amounts and with more aggression on the flop and turn, then there would be less river suckouts leading to less tilt and Phil playing more focused. He does it to himself. It's not his style, but the best poker players continuously adapt their style hand-to-hand. In that 5-3 hand, Phil knew bottom two wasn't a great hand and could be in trouble. He should've bet a decent amount(minimum pot-size) on the flop and probably didn't. The call he received signaled his opponent had something and that Phil did not want him seeing the river card. So bet hard on the turn, make a bet that is uncallable when your opponent holds J5 such as 1.5 to 2x the pot.Nice analysis Professor Poker. You either a) have no clue about the details of the hand or b ) know nothing about poker. 1. Helmuth was outstacked 5-1.2. Cabanillas had an open ended straight flush draw on the flop. 3. Explain to me how Helmuth could ever get the FAVORITE to fold with a deficit like that. Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 If you disagree and hate me, either of you I'll play a 100 HU against.I will play you heads-up for $100 and if you lose you have to apologise to Brvhrt and KowboyKoop. Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 Bumped, because I want to play you heads-up gillbert. I think your last post was totally uncalled for and rude. I've never seen Brvhrt play but I know Koop is good, and they're both nice guys....so what's with the personal attacks? Link to post Share on other sites
PatrickBateman 0 Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 http://www.cardplayer.com/multimedia/videos?gallery_id=15242 Link to post Share on other sites
Yoda 1 Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 This thread has gotten better exponentially. Glad I clicked back into it. +1 Link to post Share on other sites
PatrickBateman 0 Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 After listening to Jeff Cabanillas' interview, just proved that any donkey can catch cards and with a bracelet. What a moron... Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 http://www.cardplayer.com/multimedia/videos?gallery_id=15242"I'm playing the best poker of my life right now, you know, and that's a good thing."Phil comes off as extremely cocky (as always), but he doesn't sound like a whiny jerk. I mean he did just win half a million. Link to post Share on other sites
PatrickBateman 0 Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 Yeah he's cocky, but he's playing really well. I think all of his cockyness just hypes himself up to play better. Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 I think all of his cockyness just hypes himself up to play better.Yeah no doubt. He always thinks he's the best player at the table no matter what, and a lot of the time he is. Link to post Share on other sites
PatrickBateman 0 Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 Yeah no doubt. He always thinks he's the best player at the table no matter what, and a lot of the time he is.I'm glad there's someone on this site with some sense. Link to post Share on other sites
crowTrobot 2 Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 I'm glad there's someone on this site with some sense. get a room Link to post Share on other sites
Hatchet 0 Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 Bumped, because I want to play you heads-up gillbert. I think your last post was totally uncalled for and rude. I've never seen Brvhrt play but I know Koop is good, and they're both nice guys....so what's with the personal attacks?wtf cardplayer.. these videos aren't working at all for me. Link to post Share on other sites
PatrickBateman 0 Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 get a roomOnly if you're paying for it, big boy wtf cardplayer.. these videos aren't working at all for me.I had to open them up in I.E. instead of Firefox. Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 wtf cardplayer.. these videos aren't working at all for me.Haha, I only had audio and assumed there was no video... Link to post Share on other sites
navybuttons 15 Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 In that 5-3 hand, Phil knew bottom two wasn't a great hand and could be in trouble. He should've bet a decent amount(minimum pot-size) on the flop and probably didn't.when are you making bets that are more then the pot size after the flop except going all in, because you are pot commited anyway?are you an idiot who overbets because they don't want to get sucked out on on? Link to post Share on other sites
Hatchet 0 Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 Haha, I only had audio and assumed there was no video...might be only audio, that didn't work either, missing a plugin or something but it's not finding the correct one to install Link to post Share on other sites
gilbertology 0 Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 I'll play you right now Wakefield, you can find me on FCP almost anytime of the day especially 3-6am. I've played with brvheart many times but never Koop, and I know I'd kill brvheart and hes also rubbed alot of people, not myself tho, the wrong way at the tables.I know some people will always love Hellmuth and some people will always dislike him.What I hate most is him getting all these endorsement deals and the spotlight being constantly on him when he's at a table when there are many other top pros that play much better poker, including NLHE, than Phil. However, they do not make annoying little tirades at the table to draw attention to themselves. Some of these pros that have the results to backup they're much better players but are hardly ever in the spotlight include Tim Phan, Nam Le, the guy who beat Hellmuth HU, Jeffrey Lissandro, Daniel Alaei, Gavin Smith, John Juanda and about 243 others that I can't name because no one ever covers them. Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 I'll play you right now Wakefield, you can find me on FCP almost anytime of the day especially 3-6am.I only have $$ on Stars. Do you have any there? Also I'm currently in 2 tourneys with 2 more starting soon...so maybe later tonight? Link to post Share on other sites
gilbertology 0 Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 I only have money on FCP and this forum is an FCP forum, so therefore you are obligated to play me on FCP or withdraw your challenge mr knuckleballer. Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 I only have money on FCP and this forum is an FCP forum, so therefore you are obligated to play me on FCP or withdraw your challenge mr knuckleballer.Haha okay I'll see if I can get some money on FCP. I did download the program and start an account awhile ago, but I had problems depositing and never bothered figuring it out. Link to post Share on other sites
RuntCake 0 Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 "I'm playing the best poker of my life right now, you know, and that's a good thing."Phil comes off as extremely cocky (as always), but he doesn't sound like a whiny jerk. I mean he did just win half a million.And probably didn't pay his way into the event or for his time there, so WINNER WINNER. Not to mention the TV coverage and image-enforecement he'll get from that. +1 for the heel! Link to post Share on other sites
ColeSLaw 0 Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 Can you count suckas? I say the future is ours if you can count!Why are you fighting amongst yourself? You could be ruling the tables. Unite and defeat donks togethers.Note: Nothing in this post constitutes a reference to or support of collusion. Further, losses to donks in reliance of this post are solely the responsibilty of the losing party. Finally, beating someone head's up is totally irrelevant to the appropriateness or reasonableness of the winner or the loser's posts. In fact, I demand that both of you pick a number from 1 to 10, the winner will be declared Grand Master of the Universe and the matter will be settled. Link to post Share on other sites
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