hblask 1 Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Playing 0.25 NL cash game,I get As 10s, raise, get two callers.Flop comes Ah 10c 7h.Pot sized bet, two callersTurn, junkPot sized bet, two callersRiver, 4hDo I bet here?Then....Both of the other two are all in for over $15. Do I call that?I hadn't been in the room long, but there had been no crazy betting up to that point. Link to post Share on other sites
Devilkin 0 Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 .25NL has many players that overvalue top pair, good kicker.You will probably see AK/AQ from one player, and the other with 89s.Dev Link to post Share on other sites
tobytobey 0 Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 First, what is your position? Second, what was your pf raise?Based on the information you provided, I fold. You could easily be up against a flush or a set. Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted May 26, 2006 Author Share Posted May 26, 2006 First, what is your position? Second, what was your pf raise?Based on the information you provided, I fold. You could easily be up against a flush or a set.Early position, 4XBB pf raise. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Early position, 4XBB pf raise.Call it. The information is worth the money.One is holding AK. Another is probably a suited connector and hit the flush. Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted May 26, 2006 Author Share Posted May 26, 2006 Results:I checked, fearing the flush or a flopped set, they both went all in.One had an overpair, KK. The other had flopped bottom two pair. I would've taken down a big pot from two idiots. Link to post Share on other sites
MasterLJ 0 Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Top two on the flop should play like a set imo. Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted May 26, 2006 Author Share Posted May 26, 2006 Top two on the flop should play like a set imo.Isn't that what I did, betting the pot? Or am I supposed to bet more than that? Link to post Share on other sites
Swift_Psycho 1 Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 One had an overpair, KK.How is that an overpair? Link to post Share on other sites
Knight_Owl 0 Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Playing 0.25 NL cash game,I get As 10s, raise, get two callers.Flop comes Ah 10c 7h.Pot sized bet, two callersTurn, junkPot sized bet, two callersRiver, 4hDo I bet here?Then....Both of the other two are all in for over $15. Do I call that?I hadn't been in the room long, but there had been no crazy betting up to that point.well there was a flush draw on the board, so wht do you think the players are check/calling you? Then the flush draw hits on board, it would've been 50/50 if one player went all in for over $15 but 2 PLAYERS WENT ALL IN! Safe to say, one hit there draw and ur 2 pair is no good. FOLD! p.s. wht did you do?!?Results:I checked, fearing the flush or a flopped set, they both went all in.One had an overpair, KK. The other had flopped bottom two pair. I would've taken down a big pot from two idiots.flopped set? why do most new players think that because one bets big, therefore the player must have the Nutz or a "Set" LOL And how much were you betting? raising? Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 I push the turn. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 I push the turn.that is what I would do, there are soo many scare cards that could come off on the river. any KQJ or heart is a tough one. Link to post Share on other sites
Sluggo 0 Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Why push the turn? Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 Why push the turn?good potnice handoopput them to decisionkeeping it simpletoo win more $$$$.ps..to be sure though..i need to reveiw stack sizes. Link to post Share on other sites
Sluggo 0 Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 good potnice handoopput them to decisionkeeping it simpletoo win more $$$$.ps..to be sure though..i need to reveiw stack sizes.Doesn't all of that logic apply to pushing the flop? Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 Doesn't all of that logic apply to pushing the flop?you have much more equity on turn, likely Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted May 27, 2006 Author Share Posted May 27, 2006 How is that an overpair?Umm, because i m dum and wuz tpin in a hury.good potnice handoopput them to decisionkeeping it simpletoo win more $$$$.ps..to be sure though..i need to reveiw stack sizes.This is the one thought that didn't occur to me at the time... I guess I'm mostly not that brave, but it is the one that makes the most sense. I really have got to learn to keep options like that open. I guess I just feel like if someone is calling pot sized bets, they have a serious hand. In this case, apparently not, though, so maybe I've just been giving away a lot of hands.Thanks everyone, a lot of interesting input. Link to post Share on other sites
Sluggo 0 Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 you have much more equity on turn, likelyWon't you have the most equity on the river?Your logic applies to the turn as well as the flop. I'm not advocating pushing the flop, but I'm just saying those reasons for pushing the turn don't make sense. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 on the rvier you'll only get called if behind - oftenOn turn you'll get called by worse hands, drawing practically dead or with horrible oddsI think with this hand/baord, the turn is the best street.. pot big / equity high / chance of worse hands calling / I'm learning..don't know Link to post Share on other sites
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