Smasharoo 0 Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 The GoalTo turn $50 in my first Pokerstars deposit into $1000.The RulesI'll play only Limit games, primarily Holdem, though I might mix in some O8 or Stud etc. later on.I won't move up in limits without at least 300BB for the new limit. I will post hands that I win and lose and explain my thinking behind how I played them.I'm too lazy to spellcheck. Deal with it.Couple of hundred hands, some forward progress past $400.Saw something I haven't seen in a while today and last night, me raising pre-flop and actually hitting a flop.Anyway, my latest frustrating run of two pair river suckouts taking out my TP etc seems to have passed and I'm back moving in the right direction. Some hands:First hand at a new table, I post in the CO:*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [5s Ts]opiate burn: calls $0.50ColonelC: calls $0.50Sirene: folds Pall_5: folds Shrotbus: calls $0.50donutboy91: calls $0.50thecandle: checks Neeereet: folds luckylooo: folds Briguy93o: checks I check after posting in the CO with 5Ts. At least it's sooooted.*** FLOP *** [5h Kd Tc]Briguy93o: checks opiate burn: checks ColonelC: checks Shrotbus: checks donutboy91: checks thecandle: bets $0.50Briguy93o: calls $0.50opiate burn: calls $0.50ColonelC: folds Shrotbus: folds donutboy91: foldsI flop two pair and bet out. *** TURN *** [5h Kd Tc] [Qc]Briguy93o: bets $1opiate burn: calls $1thecandle: calls $1I ponder raising here, decide that getting three-bet by AJ or J9 or KQ etc kind of sucks, so I just call.*** RIVER *** [5h Kd Tc Qc] [Td]Briguy93o: bets $1opiate burn: calls $1thecandle: raises $1 to $2Briguy93o: calls $1opiate burn: folds *** SHOW DOWN ***thecandle: shows [5s Ts] (a full house, Tens full of Fives)Briguy93o: mucks hand thecandle collected $12.25 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $12.75 | Rake $0.50 Board [5h Kd Tc Qc Td]Seat 1: Neeereet (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: luckylooo (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 3: Briguy93o (big blind) mucked [9h Jc]I fill up on the river and get a raise in. J9 loses?? Impossible!!So, anyway, I post on the next table as I come off the waiting list for it:thecandle: posts big blind $0.50*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Jd Jc]Twocops: calls $0.50soolucky: calls $0.50JBowers1: checks thecandle: raises $0.50 to $1O Psilos: folds maggiesman said, "sorry you didnt catch your 10 6 off"maggiesman: folds dmcfbkls: folds rafterman4: folds Sirene: folds hoss54: folds Twocops: calls $0.50soolucky: calls $0.50JBowers1: calls $0.50I raise JJ after posting a blind. Hi, my name is Smasharoo and I'm a lucky bastard.*** FLOP *** [Qs Js 7s]Twocops: checks soolucky: checks O Psilos said, "you don't have to be sorry pal"JBowers1: checks thecandle: bets $0.50Twocops: calls $0.50soolucky: calls $0.50JBowers1: calls $0.50Flop a set on a three of the same suit board and bet out, 900 people call.*** TURN *** [Qs Js 7s] [5s]Twocops: folds maggiesman said, "just quit crying"soolucky: checks JBowers1: checks thecandle: bets $1soolucky: folds JBowers1: raises $1 to $2thecandle: calls $1I bet into the 4th spade, and unsurprisingly get raised. 10 outs, getting more than enough to call.*** RIVER *** [Qs Js 7s 5s] [Qd]JBowers1: bets $1thecandle: raises $1 to $2JBowers1: calls $1*** SHOW DOWN ***thecandle: shows [Jd Jc] (a full house, Jacks full of Queens)JBowers1: mucks hand thecandle collected $14.25 from potHave I mentioned that I'm a lucky bastard?*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Qs As]shoe2292: calls $0.50Duke323: folds Lakota48: folds JetroFly: calls $0.50thecandle: raises $0.50 to $1Briguy93o: folds richhillkc: folds flyboy21: folds dmcfbkls: calls $0.50shoe2292: calls $0.50JetroFly: calls $0.50I raise AQs from MP and get three callers.*** FLOP *** [3s 7c Ah]dmcfbkls: bets $0.50shoe2292: folds JetroFly: raises $0.50 to $1thecandle: calls $1dmcfbkls: raises $0.50 to $1.50JetroFly: calls $0.50thecandle: calls $0.50I flop an ace on a rainbow board and it's two cold to me before I get to think about betting or raising, then it's one back to me.It's hard to figure out what this means exactly, but I picked this table because of the large average pot size, so I'm suspicious that this is Ax followed by a two pair three-bet. Of course if it's a set I'm screwed. Anyway I hate folding in big pots and htis one's allready fairly large so I call.*** TURN *** [3s 7c Ah] [2c]dmcfbkls: bets $1JetroFly: calls $1thecandle: calls $1Flop three-bettor bets out, call call. Lack of a raise from the flop raiser makes me feel a little better about having any outs at all.*** RIVER *** [3s 7c Ah 2c] [Qh]dmcfbkls: bets $1JetroFly: folds thecandle: raises $1 to $2dmcfbkls: calls $1*** SHOW DOWN ***thecandle: shows [Qs As] (two pair, Aces and Queens)dmcfbkls: mucks hand thecandle collected $15 from potSeat 8: dmcfbkls (big blind) mucked [Jc Ad]Three-bet the flop with AJ...Anyway, pony up and tell me how I should have folded somehwere in here.Dealt to thecandle [9s Th]Neeereet: folds KOgeo: folds 4foot: calls $0.50strikeu: folds 950Platinum: folds yyyy1313: calls $0.50Duke323: folds Gymshoe: calls $0.25thecandle: checks 9To in the BB.*** FLOP *** [Js 2s Qc]Gymshoe: checks thecandle: checks 4foot: bets $0.50yyyy1313: calls $0.50Gymshoe: folds thecandle: calls $0.50Flop an OESD and decide not raise for the free card.*** TURN *** [Js 2s Qc] [7c]thecandle: checks 4foot: bets $1yyyy1313: folds thecandle: calls $1*** RIVER *** [Js 2s Qc 7c] [Ks]thecandle: checks 4foot: bets $1thecandle: calls $1thecandle: calls $1*** SHOW DOWN ***4foot: shows [Tc 9c] (a straight, Nine to King)thecandle: shows [9s Th] (a straight, Nine to King)thecandle collected $3.75 from pot4foot collected $3.50 from potmeh.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Jd Qc]O Psilos: folds maggiesman: calls $0.50dmcfbkls: folds rafterman4: folds Sirene: folds hoss54: folds Twocops: calls $0.50soolucky: folds JBowers1: calls $0.25thecandle: checks *** FLOP *** [6s 8c Qh]JBowers1: checks thecandle: bets $0.50maggiesman: folds Twocops: folds JBowers1: folds thecandle collected $2 from potmeh*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Ad Jc]sith2: calls $0.50bobowang: calls $0.50alaskasalmon: folds MattH83181: folds thecandle: calls $0.25cnw050102: checks I misclick and complete with AJ instead of raising in a six-max game.*** FLOP *** [5d 7c Jh]thecandle: checks cnw050102: checks sith2: checks bobowang: checksGo for a C/R, and miss. *** TURN *** [5d 7c Jh] [Th]thecandle: bets $1cnw050102: folds sith2: calls $1bobowang: foldsBet the turn, one caller. *** RIVER *** [5d 7c Jh Th] [7d]thecandle: bets $1sith2: folds MattH83181 leaves the tablethecandle collected $4 from pot/shrug.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [9s Jc]tarheelblu: folds JizZyJ08: folds shouse: calls $0.25thecandle: checks *** FLOP *** [Js Jh 9c]shouse: checks tarheelblu said, "nice rivr card"thecandle: checks *** TURN *** [Js Jh 9c] [9d]shouse: checks thecandle: bets $1shouse: folds thecandle collected $1 from potthecandle: doesn't show hand J9!!!!*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Td Qs]kebo1: checks Raisin Man: raises $0.50 to $1thecandle: calls $0.75bhawkotter: folds kebo1: folds *** FLOP *** [Qc Kc 2c]thecandle: checks Raisin Man: bets $0.50thecandle: calls $0.50*** TURN *** [Qc Kc 2c] [8d]thecandle: checks Raisin Man: checks *** RIVER *** [Qc Kc 2c 8d] [Ts]thecandle: bets $1Raisin Man: folds Raisin Man is sitting outRaisin Man leaves the tablethecandle collected $4.25 from potthecandle: doesn't show hand meh.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [8c 8h]bhawkotter: folds Raisin Man: calls $0.25thecandle: raises $0.50 to $1kebo1 has returnedRaisin Man: calls $0.50*** FLOP *** [6d Ah As]Raisin Man: checks thecandle: bets $0.50Raisin Man: folds thecandle collected $2 from potMeh.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Qs Th]JizZyJ08: folds shouse: folds twalker9: folds thecandle: raises $0.50 to $1PhilipOC: calls $0.75tarheelblu: calls $0.50*** FLOP *** [4s 4h 2h]PhilipOC: checks tarheelblu: checks thecandle: checks *** TURN *** [4s 4h 2h] [Tc]PhilipOC: checks tarheelblu: checks thecandle: bets $1PhilipOC: folds tarheelblu: folds thecandle collected $3 from potthecandle: doesn't show hand Meh.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Kd Ad]gopnik: folds dbldown7: folds EL_EL: calls $0.50jakespoon22: calls $0.50kgillz13: folds gopnik leaves the tablethecandle: raises $0.50 to $1cptjim: folds tracy124: calls $0.50EL_EL: calls $0.50I raise AKs in the CO.jakespoon22: calls $0.50*** FLOP *** [Qs As 2s]tracy124: checks sweeperman leaves the tableEL_EL: checks jakespoon22: checks thecandle: bets $0.50tracy124: folds oeilabs joins the table at seat #2 EL_EL: folds jakespoon22: calls $0.50Flop an ace on an all spade flop and bet out.*** TURN *** [Qs As 2s] [Ah]jakespoon22: checks thecandle: bets $1stratfordusa is connected jakespoon22: folds thecandle collected $5 from potTrips on the turn, I bet out again./shrug.*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Kc Jh]Duff_Man52: folds flopalock: folds SelfDestruct: folds dna4ever: folds thecandle: raises 90 to 120riveride10-2: folds allinbluff35: folds Mate0: folds dna4ever said, "flopalock, who is that in ur pic"thecandle collected 75 from potthecandle: doesn't show hand meh. Semi-steal from the CO.Fluked out at 100% win at showdown for the HH I grabbed so not much in the way of exciting losses to post here.I'm sure that'll fix itself next time.ResultsStarting Bankroll: $358.91Ending Bankroll: $417.11Playtime: maybe 500Net: $50 something? Not really sure how that happened...but yeah, $50 something.BB/100: Too many Link to post Share on other sites
Emptyeye 0 Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 I guess I'll be the first to state that I think I would've folded that one hand on the flop when it came two bets to you. After that, however, you were pretty much priced in one way or another.also:*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Kc Jh]Duff_Man52: foldsflopalock: foldsSelfDestruct: foldsdna4ever: foldsthecandle: raises 90 to 120riveride10-2: foldsallinbluff35: foldsMate0: foldsdna4ever said, "flopalock, who is that in ur pic"thecandle collected 75 from potthecandle: doesn't show hand Another fake hand (Last I checked, 90 and 120 weren't increments in a $.50/$1 game)? Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Net: $50 something? Not really sure how that happened...but yeah, $50 something. BB/100: Too manyThat probably happened right here:*** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to thecandle [Kc Jh] Duff_Man52: folds flopalock: folds SelfDestruct: folds dna4ever: folds thecandle: raises 90 to 120 riveride10-2: folds allinbluff35: folds Mate0: folds dna4ever said, "flopalock, who is that in ur pic" thecandle collected 75 from pot thecandle: doesn't show hand 75 from a steal on a $.50/$1 table huh? nice. Link to post Share on other sites
TJ_Eckleburg 0 Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Definitely a good day. I'm new to this crusade, but I'm definitely rooting for you. I'm curious... why is it that other people on this forum seem to think of this as a cult following? I think it's helpful and inspiring. Maybe they just resent success. Link to post Share on other sites
Atlas 0 Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [9s Jc]tarheelblu: foldsJizZyJ08: foldsshouse: calls $0.25thecandle: checks*** FLOP *** [Js Jh 9c]shouse: checkstarheelblu said, "nice rivr card"thecandle: checks*** TURN *** [Js Jh 9c] [9d]shouse: checksthecandle: bets $1shouse: foldsthecandle collected $1 from potthecandle: doesn't show handWhat's with the "nice rivr card" comment when only the flop is shown? I know it's a little technical of a question but I was curious. Link to post Share on other sites
jeff_536 3 Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 I guess I'll be the first to state that I think I would've folded that one hand on the flop when it came two bets to you. After that, however, you were pretty much priced in one way or another.also:*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Kc Jh]Duff_Man52: foldsflopalock: foldsSelfDestruct: foldsdna4ever: foldsthecandle: raises 90 to 120riveride10-2: foldsallinbluff35: foldsMate0: foldsdna4ever said, "flopalock, who is that in ur pic"thecandle collected 75 from potthecandle: doesn't show hand Another fake hand (Last I checked, 90 and 120 weren't increments in a $.50/$1 game)?I think this is the double reverse fake fake so it's real hand. From the players, I'm guessing it was from tonight's Negreanu Open...NLHE. Link to post Share on other sites
jeff_536 3 Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [9s Jc]tarheelblu: foldsJizZyJ08: foldsshouse: calls $0.25thecandle: checks*** FLOP *** [Js Jh 9c]shouse: checkstarheelblu said, "nice rivr card"thecandle: checks*** TURN *** [Js Jh 9c] [9d]shouse: checksthecandle: bets $1shouse: foldsthecandle collected $1 from potthecandle: doesn't show handWhat's with the "nice rivr card" comment when only the flop is shown? I know it's a little technical of a question but I was curious.[/quoteOut of context comments like that are almost always referring to a previous hand. Link to post Share on other sites
711Buddha 0 Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 a little off topic here but how often is there a Negreanu Open and do I need a pw? Link to post Share on other sites
Emptyeye 0 Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Dealt to thecandle [9s Th]Neeereet: folds KOgeo: folds 4foot: calls $0.50strikeu: folds 950Platinum: folds yyyy1313: calls $0.50Duke323: folds Gymshoe: calls $0.25thecandle: checks [/b]9To in the BB.*** FLOP *** [Js 2s Qc]Gymshoe: checks thecandle: checks 4foot: bets $0.50yyyy1313: calls $0.50Gymshoe: folds thecandle: calls $0.50Flop an OESD and decide not raise for the free card.*** TURN *** [Js 2s Qc] [7c]thecandle: checks 4foot: bets $1yyyy1313: folds thecandle: calls $1*** RIVER *** [Js 2s Qc 7c] [Ks]thecandle: checks 4foot: bets $1thecandle: calls $1thecandle: calls $1*** SHOW DOWN ***4foot: shows [Tc 9c] (a straight, Nine to King)thecandle: shows [9s Th] (a straight, Nine to King)thecandle collected $3.75 from pot4foot collected $3.50 from potmeh.This hand here, I presume you didn't raise the river (You seem to have called twice, by the way, what's up with that?) because the same card which hit your straight completed a flush draw as well? Link to post Share on other sites
Briguy 0 Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 I fill up on the river and get a raise in. J9 loses?? Impossible!!Rivering my baby straight. You are a nasty, nasty man, Smash. ;)I never recovered on that table. I had to win my $50.00 elsewhere. Nasty man! Link to post Share on other sites
Vade 0 Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Thanks as always :)This has really helped my limit sit and go game :)Except for heads-up where I still struggle, ugh Link to post Share on other sites
Hardnut 0 Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Whats with the fake hands? 90-120??Also i am glad some people are having a good run.I have had the worst day ever, lost exactly $95.It is very depressing, its the lowest that i have been for 6 weeks.I have not been on tilt, the few good cards that i get are always beaten on the river, its amazing. Bad beats that if i told you, you would think i was lying. beat after beat, all day. Lost sit and go after sit and go. K A beaten By A 2, caught runner runner 2, KK by AA, 1010 by JJ, AA by 44, str8 by higher str8, flush by... well u get the idea.sorry about taking the thread off topic, Thats my rant over. I may unistall pokerstars...!Sorry, :shock: Link to post Share on other sites
Absolute 0 Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 thats a bad day. sorry man. Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted March 9, 2005 Author Share Posted March 9, 2005 I cut and pasted in a hand from the tournament by mistake./shrug. Link to post Share on other sites
SuperNashwan 0 Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Td Qs]kebo1: checksRaisin Man: raises $0.50 to $1thecandle: calls $0.75bhawkotter: foldskebo1: folds*** FLOP *** [Qc Kc 2c]thecandle: checksRaisin Man: bets $0.50thecandle: calls $0.50*** TURN *** [Qc Kc 2c] [8d]thecandle: checksRaisin Man: checks*** RIVER *** [Qc Kc 2c 8d] [Ts]thecandle: bets $1Raisin Man: foldsRaisin Man is sitting outRaisin Man leaves the tablethecandle collected $4.25 from potthecandle: doesn't show handIsn't there a good argument for check-raising the flop here? You've defended a blind steal and hit second pair which I think would be the best hand more than 50% of the time, and the raise gives you extra fold equity with the one-suited flop. You also save yourself some money by not calling down turn and river bets if he comes over the top with a better hand. Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted March 9, 2005 Author Share Posted March 9, 2005 Isn't there a good argument for check-raising the flop here?Nope.There's a good argument for three-betting with any two cards if I raise though. Link to post Share on other sites
SuperNashwan 0 Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 So despite most likely having the best hand you're happy to not let him pay to draw, so you're not faced with a decision about a reraise? Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted March 9, 2005 Author Share Posted March 9, 2005 So despite most likely having the best hand you're happy to not let him pay to draw, so you're not faced with a decision about a reraise?Well, if you imaginary theory about having the best hand more than 50% of the time was right, sure it'd be an easy raise.It's not though. Link to post Share on other sites
SuperNashwan 0 Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 How often are you beat then? And how do you come to that figure? EDIT: and how much do you think the fold equity of you raising is worth?Not having a go, just interested in how you quantify it. Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted March 9, 2005 Author Share Posted March 9, 2005 How often are you beat then? And how do you come to that figure? EDIT: and how much do you think the fold equity of you raising is worth?I think I'm probably beat a little more than half than time and I think I'm beat badly occasionaly and ahead occasionally. I don't think there's much fold equity in raising as raising here is a standard play. I think a call here sets up much better fold equity on later streets.I'm a lot more worried about a caller having flopped a flush than a raiser here. Check/Raising the turn after smooth calling the flop is the play where the fold equity is.It's not imposible that I folded a better hand here because I played it as a flush draw slowplayer would and the pot's fairly small that JK or AQ may have laid it down on the end. Link to post Share on other sites
SuperNashwan 0 Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 That makes sense, cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
Bonesy 0 Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 How do you change your play when you go to the 6-max limit tables? I tried them yesterday and found some really loose action. The pots were larger than at the full ring tables and the flop percentage was greater as well. I played poorly but felt that there was some good opportunity. Also, how does your starting hand selection change?Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
All_In 0 Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Qs Th]JizZyJ08: foldsshouse: foldstwalker9: foldsthecandle: raises $0.50 to $1PhilipOC: calls $0.75tarheelblu: calls $0.50why did u raise QTo? because everyone was folding? do u normally raise this hand? Link to post Share on other sites
SabaAba 0 Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Qs Th]JizZyJ08: foldsshouse: foldstwalker9: foldsthecandle: raises $0.50 to $1PhilipOC: calls $0.75tarheelblu: calls $0.50why did u raise QTo? because everyone was folding? do u normally raise this hand?If it's folded to you on the button (i.e. you are first in on the button), you should raise with any above average hand. QT is way aboave average. Link to post Share on other sites
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