the worst play in poker

[SweetDaddyFreak 0]

Worst play in poker, in your a dedicated cash game player, is running the sucker off the table. For those of you who have played cash games for some time notice the player who is pretty deep, calling off chips with K-high. Now this goes for both B&M and Online, but I see it more online. Sitting at a table, locked on a guy who know is going to give his money away and another guy at the table wins a potm against him, after the call down with K-high, and then berates the player afterwards. Now needling is fine, if you can get a player tilted by table-talk, but when a player is doing terrible, please dont tell him he is.I hav defended countless donks for the reason to make themselves feel good again, and maybe force it into their mind that there playing fine. When a player goes "Look at this guy, what a awful play. LOL, this guy sucks." The sucker will notice his play, tighten up and 'play better'Please just say "nh" or something...dont run off bad players, its just not good for the bankrollThis message has been brought to you by the SDF Keeping Money in Your Pocket Campaign

[Limit Player 0]

yeah, couldn't agree more, and don't understand why people can't grasp the simple concept of making the sucker feel comfortable at the table.

[Suited_Up 2]

Couldn't agree more, I had the same problem last night. Playing 100NL on Bodog and this idiot just keeps telling this guy how terrible he is. The guy bets on every hand, and makes river bets with King high if you check, and the guy just keeps going on and on. Luckily the guy wasn't really thrown off and just kept talking about how this is just pennies and he doesn't care about the money. (as they always do).But yes, this guy wouldn't shutup and it was really pissing me off.

[Damontis 0]

100% agree, which is why I never berate players

[offset 0]

Great post. Tell this to the "you know you're playing a fish" posters.

[iggymcfly 0]

I agree with the whole post except for this part:

Now this goes for both B&M and Online, but I see it more online.

Most of the time, people aren't even paying attention to the chat function, but this can be death for a live game. I used to play a 3/6 game at Zeppo's in Pullman, WA, and there were two or three nitty college students that couldn't really afford the stakes, so every time they took a bad beat, they proceeded to berate the other player for ten minutes showing them exactly how their play might differ from Sklansky. Eventually, it got to the point where the table would play tighter than a 10/20 game online and the players that didn't just give up and go home would dutifully fold AT to a raise just so they wouldn't get yelled at. Downright sickening.On the other hand, the casino I'm playing 1/2 NL at in Missoula works exactly the oppposite. It's so loose that they'll tell you you're silly if you fold TPGK to an all-in. I think in that case, the table talk might actually make people play worse.

[Limit Player 0]

I agree with the whole post except for this part:

Now this goes for both B&M and Online, but I see it more online.

Most of the time, people aren't even paying attention to the chat function, but this can be death for a live game. I used to play a 3/6 game at Zeppo's in Pullman, WA, and there were two or three nitty college students that couldn't really afford the stakes, so every time they took a bad beat, they proceeded to berate the other player for ten minutes showing them exactly how their play might differ from Sklansky. Eventually, it got to the point where the table would play tighter than a 10/20 game online and the players that didn't just give up and go home would dutifully fold AT to a raise just so they wouldn't get yelled at. Downright sickening.On the other hand, the casino I'm playing 1/2 NL at in Missoula works exactly the oppposite. It's so loose that they'll tell you you're silly if you fold TPGK to an all-in. I think in that case, the table talk might actually make people play worse.

I've never seen berating in a B&M because I play the lower spreads (5-10 limit, 1-2 nl) and most people suck at those tables.

[Rude Dog 0]

When I see a guy suck out with 7-2 against raises and the loser with the better hand preflop gets on him hard, I type in...it's a seven card game, and he payed to stay. Tends to reinforce the donkey play and shut the loud mouth up.I have seen lots of players in 6 max that have between a 60% and 80% VS$IP, and it's all I can do not to tell them. They always seem to have more than the buy in for a while, they seem to get up early, and, I just love to see them donk in off. I can visualize them screaming when they get down to eight bucks and blaming the table for being suck outs.

[iggymcfly 0]

I agree with the whole post except for this part:

Now this goes for both B&M and Online, but I see it more online.

Most of the time, people aren't even paying attention to the chat function, but this can be death for a live game. I used to play a 3/6 game at Zeppo's in Pullman, WA, and there were two or three nitty college students that couldn't really afford the stakes, so every time they took a bad beat, they proceeded to berate the other player for ten minutes showing them exactly how their play might differ from Sklansky. Eventually, it got to the point where the table would play tighter than a 10/20 game online and the players that didn't just give up and go home would dutifully fold AT to a raise just so they wouldn't get yelled at. Downright sickening.On the other hand, the casino I'm playing 1/2 NL at in Missoula works exactly the oppposite. It's so loose that they'll tell you you're silly if you fold TPGK to an all-in. I think in that case, the table talk might actually make people play worse.

I've never seen berating in a B&M because I play the lower spreads (5-10 limit, 1-2 nl) and most people suck at those tables.

No, you misunderstood. The game I was talking about was a 3/6 limit game. It's just that the people doing the b*tching were poor college students who couldn't stand to lose one or two hundred dollars. Actually, I think the b*tching tends to happen less as you go up stakes.

[CaneBrain 95]

When I see a guy suck out with 7-2 against raises and the loser with the better hand preflop gets on him hard, I type in...it's a seven card game, and he payed to stay.  Tends to reinforce the donkey play and shut the loud mouth up.I have seen lots of players in 6 max that have between a 60% and 80% VS$IP,  and it's all I can do not to tell them.  They always seem to have more than the buy in for a while, they seem to get up early, and, I just love to see them donk in off.  I can visualize them screaming when they get down to eight bucks and blaming the table for being suck outs.

What is VS$IP?also, let me give the dry side pot bluff an honorary mention for worst play in poker.

[HangukMiguk 8]

i usually would keep my mouth shut, and not say a thing, cause i do tend to get cocky and end up mouthing.i can't agree with this post more. when you have an atm at the table, keep him there as long as you can.but if one of your weaknesses is table talk, silence needs to become your new policy.

[Jdr999 0]

While I agree with this in regards to cash games, I disagree when playing a SnG or MTT. They can't leave the table unless they bust or change tables, and they will likely make more foolish mistakes if you talk trash to them about how bad they play.Mike Matusow is a good example of this.

[Limit Player 0]

While I agree with this in regards to cash games, I disagree when playing a SnG or MTT. They can't leave the table unless they bust or change tables, and they will likely make more foolish mistakes if you talk trash to them about how bad they play.Mike Matusow is a good example of this.

Yeah, but OP prefaced by saying this post is about cash games, so nyaaah.

[Guest andibear]

Worst play in poker, in your a dedicated cash game player, is running the sucker off the table. For those of you who have played cash games for some time notice the player who is pretty deep, calling off chips with K-high. Now this goes for both B&M and Online, but I see it more online.  Sitting at a table, locked on a guy who know is going to give his money away and another guy at the table wins a potm against him, after the call down with K-high, and then berates the player afterwards.  Now needling is fine, if you can get a player tilted by table-talk, but when a player is doing terrible, please dont tell him he is.I hav defended countless donks for the reason to make themselves feel good again, and maybe force it into their mind that there playing fine.  When a player goes "Look at this guy, what a awful play. LOL, this guy sucks."  The sucker will notice his play, tighten up and 'play better'Please just say "nh" or something...dont run off bad players, its just not good for the bankrollThis message has been brought to you by the SDF Keeping Money in Your Pocket Campaign

i like that

[finztotheleft 0]

I agree.....drives me nuts

[Rude Dog 0]

When I see a guy suck out with 7-2 against raises and the loser with the better hand preflop gets on him hard, I type in...it's a seven card game, and he payed to stay.  Tends to reinforce the donkey play and shut the loud mouth up.I have seen lots of players in 6 max that have between a 60% and 80% VS$IP,  and it's all I can do not to tell them.  They always seem to have more than the buy in for a while, they seem to get up early, and, I just love to see them donk in off.  I can visualize them screaming when they get down to eight bucks and blaming the table for being suck outs.

What is VS$IP?also, let me give the dry side pot bluff an honorary mention for worst play in poker.

VS$IP=Voluntarily Schlepped Money In PotIt's a typo, dumbass.

[Rude Dog 0]

When I see a guy suck out with 7-2 against raises and the loser with the better hand preflop gets on him hard, I type in...it's a seven card game, and he payed to stay.  Tends to reinforce the donkey play and shut the loud mouth up.I have seen lots of players in 6 max that have between a 60% and 80% VS$IP,  and it's all I can do not to tell them.  They always seem to have more than the buy in for a while, they seem to get up early, and, I just love to see them donk in off.  I can visualize them screaming when they get down to eight bucks and blaming the table for being suck outs.

What is VS$IP?also, let me give the dry side pot bluff an honorary mention for worst play in poker.

VS$IP=Voluntarily Schlepped Money In PotIt's a typo, dumbass.

[SweetDaddyFreak 0]

What is VS$IP?also, let me give the dry side pot bluff an honorary mention for worst play in poker.Depends on the situation, if the chips in the middle mean more to your tourny then eliminating another player then it is not a bad play IMO

[SweetDaddyFreak 0]

I agree with the whole post except for this part:

Now this goes for both B&M and Online, but I see it more online.

Most of the time, people aren't even paying attention to the chat function, but this can be death for a live game. I used to play a 3/6 game at Zeppo's in Pullman, WA, and there were two or three nitty college students that couldn't really afford the stakes, so every time they took a bad beat, they proceeded to berate the other player for ten minutes showing them exactly how their play might differ from Sklansky. Eventually, it got to the point where the table would play tighter than a 10/20 game online and the players that didn't just give up and go home would dutifully fold AT to a raise just so they wouldn't get yelled at. Downright sickening.On the other hand, the casino I'm playing 1/2 NL at in Missoula works exactly the oppposite. It's so loose that they'll tell you you're silly if you fold TPGK to an all-in. I think in that case, the table talk might actually make people play worse.

Well if you berate someone online, they can easily just click a button and there gone, at least at B&M theres a chance they will stay and suck around