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I've had a few things happen at the table that were funky ... but this story is just a story ... how do I know?She is racking her chips at the end. How could she if she mucked her hand?You simply don't get the pot, bad beat or not, if you muck ... so in this story, she doubles him up.... Boo YaaaRay

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She is racking her chips at the end. How could she if she mucked her hand?Ray
She was racking her chips to leave the table. If the dealer had not awarded her the pot yet, then I believe her hand _would_ be dead if her hand touched the muck.Patrick
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I've had a few things happen at the table that were funky ... but this story is just a story ... how do I know?She is racking her chips at the end. How could she if she mucked her hand?You simply don't get the pot, bad beat or not, if you muck ... so in this story, she doubles him up.... Boo YaaaRay
she mucked and he won the pot...she was "racking" her chips to leave the casino(the rest of her chips), he was the one that was all-in.edit...i see Patrick beat me to it....he's turning into a posting machine.
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BS. Hand was tabled in fromt of not one but two floormen according to the story and the eye in the sky would have it as well. A decent try at a story but the jackpot would have to be paid as the hand was properly shown down.

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BS. Hand was tabled in fromt of not one but two floormen according to the story and the eye in the sky would have it as well. A decent try at a story but the jackpot would have to be paid as the hand was properly shown down.
no one is doubting she had quads, they all saw it...if she mucks, she mucks...no jackpot.
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BS. Hand was tabled in fromt of not one but two floormen according to the story and the eye in the sky would have it as well. A decent try at a story but the jackpot would have to be paid as the hand was properly shown down.
You are responsible for protecting your cards until the losing hand is killed, and the pot is awarded. If that hadn't happened yet, then I think it would be up to the casino/poker room. Robert's Rules leave some room for interpretation:Dead Hands2. Cards thrown into the muck may be ruled dead. However, a hand that is clearly identifiable may be retrieved at management’s discretion if doing so is in the best interest of the game. We will make an extra effort to rule a hand retrievable if it was folded as a result of false information given to the player.The Showdown2. Cards speak (cards read for themselves). The dealer assists in reading hands, but players are responsible for holding onto their cards until the winner is declared. Although verbal declarations as to the contents of a hand are not binding, deliberately miscalling a hand with the intent of causing another player to discard a winning hand is unethical and may result in forfeiture of the pot. (For more information on miscalling a hand see “Section 11 - Lowball,” Rule 15 and Rule 16.)A similar question was posed on RGP awhile back, and a floorperson posted saying in a cash game he would declare the hand hand dead, but in a tournament he would declare the hand live.That being said, I don't think you will ever get the house to pay out the bad beat jackpot if they don't have to. I'm sure they loved the old woman for doing what she did.Patrick
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BS. Hand was tabled in fromt of not one but two floormen according to the story and the eye in the sky would have it as well. A decent try at a story but the jackpot would have to be paid as the hand was properly shown down.
You are responsible for protecting your cards until the losing hand is killed, and the pot is awarded. If that hadn't happened yet, then I think it would be up to the casino/poker room. Robert's Rules leave some room for interpretation:Dead Hands2. Cards thrown into the muck may be ruled dead. However, a hand that is clearly identifiable may be retrieved at management’s discretion if doing so is in the best interest of the game. We will make an extra effort to rule a hand retrievable if it was folded as a result of false information given to the player.The Showdown2. Cards speak (cards read for themselves). The dealer assists in reading hands, but players are responsible for holding onto their cards until the winner is declared. Although verbal declarations as to the contents of a hand are not binding, deliberately miscalling a hand with the intent of causing another player to discard a winning hand is unethical and may result in forfeiture of the pot. (For more information on miscalling a hand see “Section 11 - Lowball,” Rule 15 and Rule 16.)A similar question was posed on RGP awhile back, and a floorperson posted saying in a cash game he would declare the hand hand dead, but in a tournament he would declare the hand live.That being said, I don't think you will ever get the house to pay out the bad beat jackpot if they don't have to. I'm sure they loved the old woman for doing what she did.Patrick
The house doesn't care, it makes the jackpot by collecting from the pots. At least that's how it is at every casino I've played at that has jackpots. They like paying them out, it's fun, it doesn't cost them anything and it adds to the excitement.Until I see the video from the eye in the sky for this incident though, I'm still saying b.s.
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