Marchione 0 Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 i made 2300$(plus 705$ from the bad beat ) playing 5-10 at casino nova scotia back on july 15-16-17th (27 hours played )the staff at casino Nova scotia(poker room) is by far the worst ever get your self a poker tracker !!!!playing in games on the east coast you develope leaks ~cause 6 out of 10 players are donks you dont need to play perfect poker , online people know there stuff (think of how many player in nova scotia that have read sklansky or harrington on holdem ~ enough said ) welli can tell you just about every person playing 15-30 online has read those books !!!get your self pokertrack like every other player online Link to post Share on other sites
Cheppa 0 Posted January 3, 2006 Author Share Posted January 3, 2006 i made 2300$(plus 705$ from the bad beat ) playing 5-10 at casino nova scotia back on july 15-16-17th (27 hours played )the staf at casino Nova scotia(poker room) is by far the worst ever get your self a poker tracker !!!!play in games on the east coast you develope leaks ~cause 6 out of 10 players are donks you dont need to play perfect poker , online people know there stuff (think of how many player in nova scotia that have read sklansky or harrington on holdem ~ enough said ) welli can tell you just about every person playing 15-30 online has read those books !!!get your self pokertrack like every other player onlinewow you did well at the 5/10 games in halifax. I sat in on one game last week because the 10/20 was not running. The play was the worst I have seen all year. Lots of new blood there. About 8 months ago the 10/20 was so tight that I would go play the 5/10 on occasion much more action at the time. Link to post Share on other sites
Marchione 0 Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 i have allways wondered why doug has never tried to make to move to vegas or another big card playing city ?? Link to post Share on other sites
Cheppa 0 Posted January 3, 2006 Author Share Posted January 3, 2006 i have allways wondered why doug has never tried to make to move to vegas or another big card playing city ??I think its family. Plus the lifestyle in Halifax is great, good and friendly people plus it is also so layed back.Last year he went on a 1month tour of Louisianna and did very well.His style is so much like Chris Ferguson. His table image is great and so consistant. He would be a force in the big games, if he ever played them. I will agree with your thinking and say he is playing well below his potential.If anybody wanted a HORSE, he is an untapped moneymaker.Some people say he is not that great, but those are the donk's who think they know every thing there is to know about this great game.To bad he couldn't be Daniel's Protege. There's an Idea. No wait, I want it. lol Link to post Share on other sites
Marchione 0 Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 doug's hourly rate i would think would be really low ~ just because its the same bunch of guys playing him most times ~ i would guess its somewhat hard for him to get action becuase his bets get so much respect ~i think he needs to add a couple of gears to his game to get a little more actioni do think the guy would be a great road player ~that being said i dont think he would be a great nl play (imo) Link to post Share on other sites
DeanK 0 Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 They tweak the deal online to "level the playing field", making it more difficult for winning players to get ahead. Winning players still win, only not as much as they should, losers don't lose as often, which keeps the rake flowing a little faster. Just a theory I heard. Justputting it out there, a thought. Link to post Share on other sites
blueodum 0 Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 They tweak the deal online to "level the playing field", making it more difficult for winning players to get ahead. Winning players still win, only not as much as they should, losers don't lose as often, which keeps the rake flowing a little faster.Umm ... no.It boggles my mind that so many people come up with half-baked ideas that are supposed to "explain" why they don't do well at online poker. But one explanation I rarely see espoused is - "I guess I'm just not as good as I thought I was" - even though this is the most likely explanation. Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 I havent read all the replies but you might have trouble playing online because you dont really know who you are playing against. When you play at B&M, you know the old guy in the 3 seat never folds preflop, but its alot harder to get reads online unless you are 100% concentrated.Get pokertracker and GT+ if you don't alreayd have them so you can keep track of how people play. It makes the game infinately easier for me because I'm too lazy to write notes and not smart enough to remember that bigslick34837 calls any pair to the river. Link to post Share on other sites
Cheppa 0 Posted January 3, 2006 Author Share Posted January 3, 2006 I havent read all the replies but you might have trouble playing online because you dont really know who you are playing against. When you play at B&M, you know the old guy in the 3 seat never folds preflop, but its alot harder to get reads online unless you are 100% concentrated.Get pokertracker and GT+ if you don't alreayd have them so you can keep track of how people play. It makes the game infinately easier for me because I'm too lazy to write notes and not smart enough to remember that bigslick34837 calls any pair to the river.Does poker tracker take notes for you? Wow, that would be great.lolI must admit, that my notes online are not the greatest. I am usually to far from my keyboard with my cordless optical mouse to make notes. Link to post Share on other sites
Dratj 0 Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 You all mention poker software like poker tracker but is there any for Nl HE? Link to post Share on other sites
PAYforUSC 0 Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 i crush B&M games and suck at online poker. i was up almost 14k last year and that included an online loss of 2k. to me, it is more satisfying winning live than online. i just don't have the mentality to want to kill the games online. i feel like i'm playing a video game which i don't do in my regular life. kudos to those who do. Link to post Share on other sites
pokerplayer24 0 Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Funny you should talk about the 3/6 limit game. I do manage to win at that. When I win a decent bankroll there. I always find myself at the 10/20 or 15/30 then lose it. Sometimes i get my roll up to $3000 or $4000 but then I seem to bleed it all back. I played tight, loose aggressive, tight aggressive. etc.. The hourly rate at 3/6 is $50?... are you serious about that, I didn't notice.Yeah, mine was at least. It's not really that hard (plays like 10/20 or 15/30 live I'd say, sometimes harder.) I'd rather not talk about it here though, but I added you to my MSN list so if you want you can hit me up there.Show me some stat that says you're winning over 8 bb per hr at 3/6. Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 It's no secret that B&M players are far worse. The majority of online players dont use poker tracker, so you cannot attribute your losses to that. It's just a much more competitive atmosphere. If a great player has a choice between 10/20 live and 10/20 online and you're capable of beating 10/20 online for 2bb/100, the choice is clear. They'll be playing online, where they can get in 8 times as many hands an hour. No realistic live hourly rate could come close to approaching what the online hourly rate would be for a big winner online. For people who can't beat online games (or if they do, it's for small amounts), live is obviously better despite the handicap of the slow pace the game is played at.If you're having success playing live, continue to do so. I think it's funny that you regard the players for whom you have respect as 'rocks'. Against strong, observant opponents; you most certainly dont want to be a rock - though obviously i can see the benefits when you're playing lags and calling stations. Link to post Share on other sites
ricker 0 Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 i crush B&M games and suck at online poker. i was up almost 14k last year and that included an online loss of 2k. to me, it is more satisfying winning live than online. i just don't have the mentality to want to kill the games online. i feel like i'm playing a video game which i don't do in my regular life. kudos to those who do.I completely agree with you here. I think another part of it for me anyway, is that online money means NOTHING to me. It's like I took a few hundred, burned it. No matter if I ran it up to 3300 or so, I still have NEVER cashed out any of my winnings from online poker. I've won around $7000 online and haven't cashed a dime out of it....the big problem there is, it becomes like monopoly money to me. When I'm at a B&M it's a lot easier to view chips as actual monetary units of money...whereas online, I see it only as a number on the screen...an ever dwindling number unfortunately... :oops: Link to post Share on other sites
Marchione 0 Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 when playing 15-30 online ~ i would say just about 95% of all players have trackers running ~ thats why they are playing 15-30 Link to post Share on other sites
justblaze 0 Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 this thread is filled with some horrible information. ive played the 15 game at halifax, it plays like 3-6 online, and thats generous. the 15 games on many online sites play like 40-80 live. Link to post Share on other sites
Cheppa 0 Posted January 4, 2006 Author Share Posted January 4, 2006 this thread is filled with some horrible information. ive played the 15 game at halifax, it plays like 3-6 online, and thats generous. the 15 games on many online sites play like 40-80 live.You're right about the 15/30 game. Sometimes it is like a bad 2/4 limit game. lol That happens when a select group of people show up. Somedays its better to play 5/10 because you have 9 good player show up. That used to happen most of the time.But apparently its gotten real juicy lately. [/code] Link to post Share on other sites
PAYforUSC 0 Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 i crush B&M games and suck at online poker. i was up almost 14k last year and that included an online loss of 2k. to me, it is more satisfying winning live than online. i just don't have the mentality to want to kill the games online. i feel like i'm playing a video game which i don't do in my regular life. kudos to those who do.I completely agree with you here. I think another part of it for me anyway, is that online money means NOTHING to me. It's like I took a few hundred, burned it. No matter if I ran it up to 3300 or so, I still have NEVER cashed out any of my winnings from online poker. I've won around $7000 online and haven't cashed a dime out of it....the big problem there is, it becomes like monopoly money to me. When I'm at a B&M it's a lot easier to view chips as actual monetary units of money...whereas online, I see it only as a number on the screen...an ever dwindling number unfortunately... :oops:there is definately a disconnect with me and internet poker :oops: Link to post Share on other sites
chopper88 0 Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Funny you should talk about the 3/6 limit game. I do manage to win at that. When I win a decent bankroll there. I always find myself at the 10/20 or 15/30 then lose it. Sometimes i get my roll up to $3000 or $4000 but then I seem to bleed it all back. I played tight, loose aggressive, tight aggressive. etc.. The hourly rate at 3/6 is $50?... are you serious about that, I didn't notice.Yeah, mine was at least. It's not really that hard (plays like 10/20 or 15/30 live I'd say, sometimes harder.) I'd rather not talk about it here though, but I added you to my MSN list so if you want you can hit me up there.Show me some stat that says you're winning over 8 bb per hr at 3/6.Are you retarded? This is so easy it's not even funny. Here's how:play 8 tables x 65 hands / hr (I'm making this up, that seems about right, I don't have my DB in front of me.) This is 520 hands / hr.Make 1.5 bb / 100. This isn't that hard if you aren't retarded. Mine is higher. If you are good it will be. Hourly rate therefore = $9 x 5.2, huzzah $46.8 / hr. If your winrate is 2 bb / 100 (this is tougher especially if you are 8 tabling, but it can be done) you're making $62 / hr in winnings. This is not including rakeback. Rakeback if you are playing 520 hands / hr at 3/6 full at 25% will be around another $20 / hr. So all of a sudden you're making between $66 and $82 / hr.Not bad for playing a game in your pjs.If you didn't know this was possible, you're a dumbshit. Have fun in the kiddie pool. Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 when playing 15-30 online ~ i would say just about 95% of all players have trackers running ~ thats why they are playing 15-30What would you be basing that on though?I can't say that i have any way of knowing that they dont, but i cant imagine "most" players having it.There must be some way of getting that stat. Link to post Share on other sites
justblaze 0 Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 this thread is filled with some horrible information. ive played the 15 game at halifax, it plays like 3-6 online, and thats generous. the 15 games on many online sites play like 40-80 live.You're right about the 15/30 game. Sometimes it is like a bad 2/4 limit game. lol That happens when a select group of people show up. Somedays its better to play 5/10 because you have 9 good player show up. That used to happen most of the time.But apparently its gotten real juicy lately. [/code]no, ive played with the regulars. they arent very good. i would imagine almost all of them would get crushed in a party 15 game, which would correspond with the results you are reporting. Link to post Share on other sites
justblaze 0 Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 when playing 15-30 online ~ i would say just about 95% of all players have trackers running ~ thats why they are playing 15-30What would you be basing that on though?I can't say that i have any way of knowing that they dont, but i cant imagine "most" players having it.There must be some way of getting that stat.impossible to know. but the information pokertracker provides requires a skilled player behind it or its useless. Link to post Share on other sites
Cheppa 0 Posted January 4, 2006 Author Share Posted January 4, 2006 this thread is filled with some horrible information. ive played the 15 game at halifax, it plays like 3-6 online, and thats generous. the 15 games on many online sites play like 40-80 live.You're right about the 15/30 game. Sometimes it is like a bad 2/4 limit game. lol That happens when a select group of people show up. Somedays its better to play 5/10 because you have 9 good player show up. That used to happen most of the time.But apparently its gotten real juicy lately. [/code]no, ive played with the regulars. they arent very good. i would imagine almost all of them would get crushed in a party 15 game, which would correspond with the results you are reporting.Maybe that is true. In my travels over the last 3 years to Louisianna, Mirage, Belagio, and the Commerce casino. I have winning record at 10/20, 20/40 and only two sessions of 40/80 limit gamesat the mirage. I have a very good winning record, I actually have a better hourly rate than I do in halifax. My 2/4 and 5/10 NL play is spot on anywhere I play. Though I must say that I have actually had some succes at the 6 seated 2/4 and 4/8 NL at party. I always find myself losing my profits to the 10/20 and 15/30 limit games. I can't help myself, so much more action. That's another reason I have stopped playing online. Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 impossible to know. but the information pokertracker provides requires a skilled player behind it or its useless.I agree. But a winning player doesnt necessarily need poker tracker. Link to post Share on other sites
Cheppa 0 Posted January 4, 2006 Author Share Posted January 4, 2006 I download poker tracker, how long does it take to get familiar with it? Link to post Share on other sites
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