how you made the move to 25-50nl and higher

[Timdog1010 0]

online. i don't have an issue with these limits playing live. i am the cards are going to have to be real good to beat the online players.

I can't be sure what this means. I've read it 4 times.

Me too...I don't know wtf to make of it. I am now very curious as to what he meant to say.

He meant he is the cards are going to have to be real good to beat the online players.Can you friggin' read?

I AM, SMELLIN LIKE A ROSE THAT SOMEBODY GAVE ME ON MY BIRTHDAY DEATH BED.

Amen, brother, amen.

[pokerloser 0]

Alright, I will try to give you a relatively serious answer based on my experience. (for whatever that is worth)When the game is running at the Bike I play the 200/400 or 400/600 mix game with Yosh, Tuan le, Jerry Buss etc. It's a pretty juicy game, money flies. That is one of the most important things you need to remember. The other players at the limit you are going to, probably have no limit to the their bankroll. If you go in short, or play with "scared money". We will smell you out very quickly, and exploit that all nightWhen I sit at that game I sit with a minimum of 300k, usually more.The last time I sat at a 50/100 game I sat with 100k. There were a couple guys who bought in for less, but I wouldn't recommend it, and a couple who bought in for more.I did not change my style of play when I first went to the game, but I changed it to adapt better after playing for awhile. You cannot play tight poker at these limits, you will get a good hand and never get paid off. Too obvious, you better be willing to throw your bankroll around.Last but not least, "Bluff" you need to be able to Bluff with lots of your $$, and call bluffs for lots of your money. If you can't do that, you will get killed. Don't play with scared money.And finally a story of an up and comer. We get a new players who step in and out of our game all the time. We had a young man sit with 25k, he sat with us and started by saying "I came here to double my bankroll baby", I wanted to play against Tuan le, "the champ".But then he said I only want to play the NL game so he waited for us to finish PLO, we switched to NL for him. First hand, Tuan throws in "1 chip" for 100k!! The kid asks if he even looked at his cards, Tuan's response "no, not yet", kid folds. Takes his 25k and leaves. LOLYou better have money, you better be willing to lose it.I wish you the best. If you live in CA, stop by the Bike.

[kers2 0]

Not the same thing. DN probably couldn't play 25/50 himself, he plays what, 4000/8000 live? His opinion on this game would be all-in, every hand.

Who is this DN that you speak of

[HoosierAlum 0]

Alright, I will try to give you a relatively serious answer based on my experience. (for whatever that is worth)When the game is running at the Bike I play the 200/400 or 400/600 mix game with Yosh, Tuan le, Jerry Buss etc. It's a pretty juicy game, money flies. That is one of the most important things you need to remember. The other players at the limit you are going to, probably have no limit to the their bankroll. If you go in short, or play with "scared money". We will smell you out very quickly, and exploit that all nightWhen I sit at that game I sit with a minimum of 300k, usually more.The last time I sat at a 50/100 game I sat with 100k. There were a couple guys who bought in for less, but I wouldn't recommend it, and a couple who bought in for more.I did not change my style of play when I first went to the game, but I changed it to adapt better after playing for awhile. You cannot play tight poker at these limits, you will get a good hand and never get paid off. Too obvious, you better be willing to throw your bankroll around.Last but not least, "Bluff" you need to be able to Bluff with lots of your $$, and call bluffs for lots of your money. If you can't do that, you will get killed. Don't play with scared money.And finally a story of an up and comer. We get a new players who step in and out of our game all the time. We had a young man sit with 25k, he sat with us and started by saying "I came here to double my bankroll baby", I wanted to play against Tuan le, "the champ".But then he said I only want to play the NL game so he waited for us to finish PLO, we switched to NL for him. First hand, Tuan throws in "1 chip" for 100k!! The kid asks if he even looked at his cards, Tuan's response "no, not yet", kid folds. Takes his 25k and leaves. LOLYou better have money, you better be willing to lose it.I wish you the best. If you live in CA, stop by the Bike.

That is a sick story. Would have been sweet if you picked up aces

[Royal_Tour 0]

Alright, I will try to give you a relatively serious answer based on my experience. (for whatever that is worth)When the game is running at the Bike I play the 200/400 or 400/600 mix game with Yosh, Tuan le, Jerry Buss etc. It's a pretty juicy game, money flies. That is one of the most important things you need to remember. The other players at the limit you are going to, probably have no limit to the their bankroll. If you go in short, or play with "scared money". We will smell you out very quickly, and exploit that all nightWhen I sit at that game I sit with a minimum of 300k, usually more.The last time I sat at a 50/100 game I sat with 100k. There were a couple guys who bought in for less, but I wouldn't recommend it, and a couple who bought in for more.I did not change my style of play when I first went to the game, but I changed it to adapt better after playing for awhile. You cannot play tight poker at these limits, you will get a good hand and never get paid off. Too obvious, you better be willing to throw your bankroll around.Last but not least, "Bluff" you need to be able to Bluff with lots of your $$, and call bluffs for lots of your money. If you can't do that, you will get killed. Don't play with scared money.And finally a story of an up and comer. We get a new players who step in and out of our game all the time. We had a young man sit with 25k, he sat with us and started by saying "I came here to double my bankroll baby", I wanted to play against Tuan le, "the champ".But then he said I only want to play the NL game so he waited for us to finish PLO, we switched to NL for him. First hand, Tuan throws in "1 chip" for 100k!! The kid asks if he even looked at his cards, Tuan's response "no, not yet", kid folds. Takes his 25k and leaves. LOLYou better have money, you better be willing to lose it.I wish you the best. If you live in CA, stop by the Bike.

i was waiting for you to post.I didnt expect a valid answer from you though, lol i expected a "if you cant figure that out, you arent going to do well"i forgot to put, no one but pokerloser, how can i forget these things, sorry teammate

[Suited_Up 2]

LOLGreat story about Tuan.

[proeliator 0]

rgweg

[proeliator 0]

Alright, I will try to give you a relatively serious answer based on my experience. (for whatever that is worth)When the game is running at the Bike I play the 200/400 or 400/600 mix game with Yosh, Tuan le, Jerry Buss etc. It's a pretty juicy game, money flies. That is one of the most important things you need to remember. The other players at the limit you are going to, probably have no limit to the their bankroll. If you go in short, or play with "scared money". We will smell you out very quickly, and exploit that all nightWhen I sit at that game I sit with a minimum of 300k, usually more.The last time I sat at a 50/100 game I sat with 100k. There were a couple guys who bought in for less, but I wouldn't recommend it, and a couple who bought in for more.I did not change my style of play when I first went to the game, but I changed it to adapt better after playing for awhile. You cannot play tight poker at these limits, you will get a good hand and never get paid off. Too obvious, you better be willing to throw your bankroll around.Last but not least, "Bluff" you need to be able to Bluff with lots of your $$, and call bluffs for lots of your money. If you can't do that, you will get killed. Don't play with scared money.And finally a story of an up and comer. We get a new players who step in and out of our game all the time. We had a young man sit with 25k, he sat with us and started by saying "I came here to double my bankroll baby", I wanted to play against Tuan le, "the champ".But then he said I only want to play the NL game so he waited for us to finish PLO, we switched to NL for him. First hand, Tuan throws in "1 chip" for 100k!! The kid asks if he even looked at his cards, Tuan's response "no, not yet", kid folds. Takes his 25k and leaves. LOLYou better have money, you better be willing to lose it.I wish you the best. If you live in CA, stop by the Bike.

Thanks. However I am talking about making the move online not live. I play live now but making this move online where your attention needs to be on the game all the time or you could end up losing a large chunk of your roll. Live it's easy to socialize and in some ways relax yet still pick up tells and be focused on the game. Great story about Tuan.

[Royal_Tour 0]

Thank You for your long and interesting response. What you are speaking of is live play if I am not mistaken. I am talking about online play. I love the play by Tuan. ClassicNo offenec "prioritymail" but i think you have zero idea what you are talking about.You cant honestly be serious about playing 25-50nl online after being at UB for a month.what limits were you playing live? and why is it so difficult to judge when to jump limits if you have already done it live?Its all about your BR and your confidence. there is no set rule, you should know this playing at your level.

[alf13 0]

When I sit at that game I sit with a minimum of 300k, usually more.The last time I sat at a 50/100 game I sat with 100k. .

You sat in that game with 1000 BB?Isn't the 50-100 NL game at the Bike a restricted buyin game?hey...not for nothing...But I have seen Ivey SIT at 4k/8k with 500k...and you are buying in for 300k in those mixed games at the Bike?BTW....a 100k chip at the Bike? It doesn't exist.[/img]

[Royal_Tour 0]

I play live now but making this move online where your attention needs to be on the game all the time or you could end up losing a large chunk of your roll. Live it's easy to socialize and in some ways relax yet still pick up tells and be focused on the game.again, not sure if you know what you're talking about.the opposite of what you just said is why multi-tabling is possible.

[Dratj 0]

Alright, I will try to give you a relatively serious answer based on my experience. (for whatever that is worth)When the game is running at the Bike I play the 200/400 or 400/600 mix game with Yosh, Tuan le, Jerry Buss etc. It's a pretty juicy game, money flies. That is one of the most important things you need to remember. The other players at the limit you are going to, probably have no limit to the their bankroll. If you go in short, or play with "scared money". We will smell you out very quickly, and exploit that all nightWhen I sit at that game I sit with a minimum of 300k, usually more.The last time I sat at a 50/100 game I sat with 100k. There were a couple guys who bought in for less, but I wouldn't recommend it, and a couple who bought in for more.I did not change my style of play when I first went to the game, but I changed it to adapt better after playing for awhile. You cannot play tight poker at these limits, you will get a good hand and never get paid off. Too obvious, you better be willing to throw your bankroll around.Last but not least, "Bluff" you need to be able to Bluff with lots of your $$, and call bluffs for lots of your money. If you can't do that, you will get killed. Don't play with scared money.And finally a story of an up and comer. We get a new players who step in and out of our game all the time. We had a young man sit with 25k, he sat with us and started by saying "I came here to double my bankroll baby", I wanted to play against Tuan le, "the champ".But then he said I only want to play the NL game so he waited for us to finish PLO, we switched to NL for him. First hand, Tuan throws in "1 chip" for 100k!! The kid asks if he even looked at his cards, Tuan's response "no, not yet", kid folds. Takes his 25k and leaves. LOLYou better have money, you better be willing to lose it.I wish you the best. If you live in CA, stop by the Bike.

This is an awesome story. Who are you?

[justblaze 0]

<troll food>there, i just saved 20 minutes.

[jlgosse 0]

No, I wasn't being sarcastic. I think DN would be "too used to" the higher limits to play 25/50. Alot of people would agree based on his style a few months ago in the casino game where he was pushing every hand.So, no SW.

[pokerloser 0]

OK, my online advice for higher limits will have to be restricted to PartyPoker as I don't really play much anywhere else for big money.Party, I play 4 tables of 1000NL at a time. I don't play the 2000 because it is too tight, nobody really willing to toss money in the pot. Let's face it even at the 1000 you can check at any given time and the avg pot is no more than 150-200. I sit at each table with the max. There is ussually only a couple tables open for 2k and they are all the same players. The limit 100/200, (I hate Limit) only has a couple tables running at any given point, and again mostly the same players every day. And amazingly, lot's of money at those tables, 10-20k per.Most of the information I gave still applies.Don't play with scared money.Be willing to Bluff, ALOT, and call what you think are Bluffs.If you have 10k. Go try the 1k and see how your game holds up.The biggest diference as far as your question to changing your game as you go up. It get's looser, because money matters less. If you play a tight/agressive style now. It won't work up there, you just won't get any callers to your bigger raises, unless you get called by Aces then your in trouble anyway.You have to open up your gap, raise alot, don't be a calling station. AND be willing to LET GO when you know your beat.I wish you the best, PM me if you are serious about going up and have anymore spcific questions. I would be happy to help.

[proeliator 0]

Thank You for your long and interesting response. What you are speaking of is live play if I am not mistaken. I am talking about online play. I love the play by Tuan. ClassicNo offenec "prioritymail" but i think you have zero idea what you are talking about.You cant honestly be serious about playing 25-50nl online after being at UB for a month.what limits were you playing live? and why is it so difficult to judge when to jump limits if you have already done it live?Its all about your BR and your confidence. there is no set rule, you should know this playing at your level.

if you read my last post i explain how playing live is a slower pace. i have been playing at ultimate bet for a month now getting used to the fast action. i find myself sitting out every 20 hands or so because i find it hard to keep up with the pace. as far as the play i have no problem except that i need to concentrate on different player actions online compared to live.

[DrawingDeadInDM 0]

No, I wasn't being sarcastic. I think DN would be "too used to" the higher limits to play 25/50. Alot of people would agree based on his style a few months ago in the casino game where he was pushing every hand.So, no SW.

Ohhh..I see.You think his style at at 25/50 NL game would be push, push, push because he bought in for 100k, during what boiled down to a publicity stunt, in a 2/5 game.I find that theory, highly, highly flawed.

[Royal_Tour 0]

This is an awesome story. Who are you?he is my team mate!

[proeliator 0]

I play live now but making this move online where your attention needs to be on the game all the time or you could end up losing a large chunk of your roll. Live it's easy to socialize and in some ways relax yet still pick up tells and be focused on the game.again, not sure if you know what you're talking about.the opposite of what you just said is why multi-tabling is possible.

I give credit to anyone who can play 2 or more tables with different opponents and have at least 5k at each table. I don't think or actually I know this would not be possible for me. I play poker strictly for the money and I don't like to give an edge to anyone I am playing against. So thanks for the advice royal but i think we are on different pages.

[alf13 0]

This thread deserves it's own logo......

[Suited_Up 2]

I play live now but making this move online where your attention needs to be on the game all the time or you could end up losing a large chunk of your roll. Live it's easy to socialize and in some ways relax yet still pick up tells and be focused on the game.again, not sure if you know what you're talking about.the opposite of what you just said is why multi-tabling is possible.

I give credit to anyone who can play 2 or more tables with different opponents and have at least 5k at each table. I don't think or actually I know this would not be possible for me. I play poker strictly for the money and I don't like to give an edge to anyone I am playing against. So thanks for the advice royal but i think we are on different pages.

Are you like 60? Did you just learn how to use a computer?I'm not sure if you're cut out for this game.

[RhinestoneCowboy 2]

This is an awesome story. Who are you?he is my team mate!

So you've got a teammate who plays with the big boys... big deal, let's see how he handles one of FCP's finest $5 sit'n'go donks! Bring it!

[pokerloser 0]

When I sit at that game I sit with a minimum of 300k, usually more.The last time I sat at a 50/100 game I sat with 100k. .

You sat in that game with 1000 BB?Isn't the 50-100 NL game at the Bike a restricted buyin game?hey...not for nothing...But I have seen Ivey SIT at 4k/8k with 500k...and you are buying in for 300k in those mixed games at the Bike?BTW....a 100k chip at the Bike? It doesn't exist.

LOL Ohhh Alf.Your still stuck in the relation to "BB" in relation to "buy-in" It happens with micro limit players. I bought in with an amount that made me even or competitive with the other players. relation to "BB" means squat once you have lost your first pot of 30k. now what's my relation to BB?Again, I buy-in for an amount that is ussually avg. to those of the other players. And I am no Ivey, I need more to get through my ups and downs.The game I am speaking of is Yosh Nakano's Host Table. The rules are different in that there is no restricted buy-in, we can change the game when we want (everyone agrees). And again this is the 400/800 (my mistake in the other post I put 4/600, it is 4/800). I haven't played 50/100 in over a year.And YES there is a 100k cash chip at the Bike. So Alf, anything constructive to say or would you like to play 1000/2000 Omaha H/L on Fulltilt, I got about 80k there. Come on let's go. Alfy!

[alf13 0]

LOL Ohhh Alf.Your still stuck in the relation to "BB" in relation to "buy-in" It happens with micro limit players. I bought in with an amount that made me even or competitive with the other players. relation to "BB" means squat once you have lost your first pot of 30k. now what's my relation to BB?Again, I buy-in for an amount that is ussually avg. to those of the other players. And I am no Ivey, I need more to get through my ups and downs.The game I am speaking of is Yosh Nakano's Host Table. The rules are different in that there is no restricted buy-in, we can change the game when we want (everyone agrees). And again this is the 400/800 (my mistake in the other post I put 4/600, it is 4/800). I haven't played 50/100 in over a year.And YES there is a 100k cash chip at the Bike. So Alf, anything constructive to say or would you like to play 1000/2000 Omaha H/L on Fulltilt, I got about 80k there. Come on let's go. Alfy!

Micro Limit?No...I am just calling out somebody that is talking out of his azz. A 100k chip at the Bike? What color is it?This should be fun.... :wink: Not for nothing pokerloser....but I smell serious bullshat in your post.

[scottyno 0]

Players at NWP are bigger idiots than the players here. But, some of them do play above 25/50, such as neverwin and some other cats.http://www.neverwinpoker.com

nwp actually has a lot of high limit online players (if i had to guess, probably even more than fcp, at least in terms of those that actually post) though most of them are limit players (30-60 or 100-200)