Jennings7 0 Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Wow, Ivey just donked off 20K in 2 hands. Unbelievable.ya, that was nasty. Cant believe he pushed like that.Yeah, well thats a good lesson that anybody, no matter how good they are percieved to be, make big mistakes. Link to post Share on other sites
spt24 0 Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 could someone please post the two hands, thanks Link to post Share on other sites
duvie55 0 Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 DD hadn't reraised Phil the whole time until the big hand. I don't know how alarm bells weren't going off. Link to post Share on other sites
duvie55 0 Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 The big hand Ivey raised 1500 from the small blind. DD reraised 3000 from the BB. Ivey pushes like 15000 and DD calls right away. DD had aces and Phil had 77. All blanks on the board. Mistake by Ivey so I guess he isn't a machine. Link to post Share on other sites
Kantian 0 Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 so ivey raised in the SB, and the reraise from the BB MIGHT have just looked like a steal attempt to push ivey off of his play. so ivey pushes all in thinking to be the better man in a game of blinds chicken. And he happened to run into a hand.That's what i'd think? Sure I'm no expert.. but maybe he thought if nothing else he's up against 2 overcards.Just offering that as a highly possible excuse for what i just saw asomeone refer to as "donking" away money.Because lets face it, 77 is a bad assed hand to 'fall back on' when you are fairly sure you can steal some guys raise. Worst case he calls with a medium pocket pair against WHATEVER the guy was holding. Great play by ivey I think... sometimes you run into aces and no matter how good your play is you're fukkt. Link to post Share on other sites
CBurgHoyaSaxa 0 Posted November 18, 2005 Author Share Posted November 18, 2005 Easy for him to lose focus at such low stakes I assume Link to post Share on other sites
Huge Pair 0 Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Easy for him to lose focus at such low stakes I assumeExactly him playing these stakes is like a 2/4 NL player playing .05/.10 NL. It is hard to take it seriously, that is such a small portion of his bankroll. Link to post Share on other sites
CrackofmyACE 1 Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 so ivey raised in the SB, and the reraise from the BB MIGHT have just looked like a steal attempt to push ivey off of his play. so ivey pushes all in thinking to be the better man in a game of blinds chicken. And he happened to run into a hand.That's what i'd think? Sure I'm no expert.. but maybe he thought if nothing else he's up against 2 overcards.Just offering that as a highly possible excuse for what i just saw asomeone refer to as "donking" away money.Because lets face it, 77 is a bad assed hand to 'fall back on' when you are fairly sure you can steal some guys raise. Worst case he calls with a medium pocket pair against WHATEVER the guy was holding. Great play by ivey I think... sometimes you run into aces and no matter how good your play is you're fukkt.If some newbie posted the exact same hand only at the .50/1 level and played 77 exactly the same way Ivey did you would flame him until he was a smoldering pile of ash and you know it. Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 dirksen is sitting with 90K at 50/100.impressive. Link to post Share on other sites
spt24 0 Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 he just sat out with 113KHe said it is time to party... got to goIvey said, "I don't blame you" and then left Link to post Share on other sites
ajs1281 0 Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 back on againedited for the idiot who didnt think things through Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 they're back at it Link to post Share on other sites
EyeofDeath 0 Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 Dustin played perfect against Phil. However, if Phil had 100k vs. his 100k, DD would get absolutely annihilated. He was raising, Phil was re rasing and Dirksen was moving in. He definitely plays a very good NLH game, that is for sure. No one that I see gets to 100k in a 10k buy in game multiple times a week. We'll have to see how he deals w/ bad runs and if he can keep up his pace. Anyways, I give him a lot of credit as anyone should. It seems as though he won 34k in the 200k guarantee and then he starts showing up and mutilating the 25/50 and 50/100 within days...? Link to post Share on other sites
navybuttons 15 Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 there was an earlier post today. jennicide and DN were playing DD earlier today. then i saw DD with 100k at doyle's room in the 150/300 limit game. the guy is a multi-tabling machine. Link to post Share on other sites
Arkanoid 0 Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 Dirksen is the real deal. I've played a bunch of sessions with him at 5/10NL and he was very stiff competition. He is smart in that the higher he plays, the more bold and aggressive he becomes.For those who say he's a lottery ticket...put up your money and take his. It's tougher than you think. Link to post Share on other sites
HoosierAlum 0 Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 Dirksen is the real deal. I've played a bunch of sessions with him at 5/10NL and he was very stiff competition. He is smart in that the higher he plays, the more bold and aggressive he becomes.For those who say he's a lottery ticket...put up your money and take his. It's tougher than you think.That is smart? Please don't speak about things you have no idea about. Link to post Share on other sites
guinevar 0 Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 Dirksen is the real deal. I've played a bunch of sessions with him at 5/10NL and he was very stiff competition. He is smart in that the higher he plays, the more bold and aggressive he becomes.For those who say he's a lottery ticket...put up your money and take his. It's tougher than you think.That is smart? Please don't speak about things you have no idea about.Hoosier, that was a mean and senseless post. The guy said he plays 5/10NL, do you have experience playing that level or higher? Link to post Share on other sites
HoosierAlum 0 Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 Dirksen is the real deal. I've played a bunch of sessions with him at 5/10NL and he was very stiff competition. He is smart in that the higher he plays, the more bold and aggressive he becomes.For those who say he's a lottery ticket...put up your money and take his. It's tougher than you think.That is smart? Please don't speak about things you have no idea about.Hoosier, that was a mean and senseless post. The guy said he plays 5/10NL, do you have experience playing that level or higher?I don't play NL cash games. Online I play 3/6 and 5/10 6 max. Live I play 10/20 or 20/40 HE and have taken shots at 30/60 Mixed.Sorry about being mean and senseless. But the key to winning at higher limits isn't being more bold and aggressive. Link to post Share on other sites
Kantian 0 Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 so ivey raised in the SB, and the reraise from the BB MIGHT have just looked like a steal attempt to push ivey off of his play. so ivey pushes all in thinking to be the better man in a game of blinds chicken. And he happened to run into a hand.That's what i'd think? Sure I'm no expert.. but maybe he thought if nothing else he's up against 2 overcards.Just offering that as a highly possible excuse for what i just saw asomeone refer to as "donking" away money.Because lets face it, 77 is a bad assed hand to 'fall back on' when you are fairly sure you can steal some guys raise. Worst case he calls with a medium pocket pair against WHATEVER the guy was holding. Great play by ivey I think... sometimes you run into aces and no matter how good your play is you're fukkt.If some newbie posted the exact same hand only at the .50/1 level and played 77 exactly the same way Ivey did you would flame him until he was a smoldering pile of ash and you know it.Probably so... because the REASONS the newb raised (he thought it was a great hand regardless) and the reason Ivey raised (he probably understood why the guy would raise in that situation) changes things. In other words, there are several amateurish-looking plays that pros use that has NOTHING to do with the cards... sometimes they're purely based on situations.Am i a pro? Hell no.. but I listen to and read enough of their stuff to know that often times the cards in your hand matter not. NOW if a "newb" explained all that to me.. i wouldn't flame him.K. Link to post Share on other sites
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