Belanger25 3 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I guess the first 4 years he gets 13 mil signing and 1 mil season salary. So basically if Nashville matches they owe Weber 27 million dollars before they have the chance to trade him. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I don't know... in terms of marketplace viability I think the Preds have to sign him and then pray for a lockout.I disagree. Shea Weber isn't LeBron James, he isn't making Nashville a viable hockey market or not. The way to build a viable sports franchise in a difficult environment is not to overpay a star player (unless we're talking about a Crosby/Ovechkin MVP-candidate), but to build a consistent winner. I don't think paying Weber $8M/year for 14 years and giving up 4 1sts to do so is the Preds best way to build a winning team. Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 This is turning into baseball numbers Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 All I know is I'm going to be a very happy Ryan Ellis owner if Suter and Weber both ship out of town. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 All I know is I'm going to be a very happy Ryan Ellis owner if Suter and Weber both ship out of town.I think that will make Roman Josi their number 1 d-man Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I think that will make Roman Josi their number 1 d-manHe can't hold back the offensive juggernaut that is Ryan Ellis. All 5' 9" of him. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Kevin Klein. Plus they'll sign Carlo Colaiacovo or something. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 http://deadspin.com/5927775/scott-gomez-hits-hole+in+one-to-win-a-car-at-his-own-charity-golf-tournament Link to post Share on other sites
Dubey 1,035 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Back off folks, the 1-2 slots are going to John Blum and mattias Ekholm Link to post Share on other sites
Dubey 1,035 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 http://deadspin.com/...golf-tournamentfrom the comments:"Good for Scott, I don't know what kind of car he received but maybe the built-in GPS can show him how to drive to the net."I chuckled. Link to post Share on other sites
LongLiveYorke 38 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Helllloooooo, Mr. Nash Link to post Share on other sites
Fubar The Sperm 1 Posted July 24, 2012 Author Share Posted July 24, 2012 I wonder if Ryan goes soon now. I could see Pittsburgh go after him. Link to post Share on other sites
LongLiveYorke 38 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I wonder if Ryan goes soon now. I could see Pittsburgh go after him.I still don't see why the Ducks would ever trade Ryan? What would they have to (realistically) get back for that to make sense? How often does a team get a young, relatively cheap and super talented forward? Isn't that what you rebuild FOR? Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I still don't see why the Ducks would ever trade Ryan? What would they have to (realistically) get back for that to make sense? How often does a team get a young, relatively cheap and super talented forward? Isn't that what you rebuild FOR?He's not really that cheap at a $5.1 cap hit, he tied his lowest production season last year, and he wants to be traded so he can start fresh somewhere that isn't constantly shopping him. Link to post Share on other sites
dEv~ 19 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 From what I read the Ducks would be looking for forwards in return for Ryan. The Pens have Dmen coming out of their ears but no extra forwards to give away. Unless something changes I have a hard time believing this will happen. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 From what I read the Ducks would be looking for forwards in return for Ryan. The Pens have Dmen coming out of their ears but no extra forwards to give away. Unless something changes I have a hard time believing this will happen.Buffalo can make a forwards-based trade work, but I doubt it will happen because Darcy doesn't lose trades and Anaheim isn't giving Ryan up for anything less than overpayment.I'd be happy to see something like this happen:GerbeLeinoLuke Adam2nd Round 2013Gerbe and Leino make Ryan's salary a wash for both sides, Adam is a former 49-goal scoring Q center and an AHL rookie of the year who is basically redundant in Buffalo's system now (with the addition of Grigorenko and Girgensons who both bump him down the chart, plus Hodgson's addition and the emergence of Ennis as a solid center). Two NHL-ready top six forwards, a very good prospect and a decent pick. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I still don't see why the Ducks would ever trade Ryan? What would they have to (realistically) get back for that to make sense? How often does a team get a young, relatively cheap and super talented forward? Isn't that what you rebuild FOR?James Neal tho Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 James Neal thoI've gotta believe the Stars didn't think Neal would be Neal without Richards. Probably would have been right...if it wasn't for that meddling Malkin. <grin> Link to post Share on other sites
dEv~ 19 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 thankfully Weber signs with Nashville. Gotta love a flyer's failure in the middle of July.*obviously not devastating for the flyers and could prove to be a blessing in disguise but I still enjoy it currently. Link to post Share on other sites
InternetExplorer 2,609 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 the preds should have let him walk. that contract was idiotic. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 the preds should have let him walk. that contract was idiotic.I agree. I guess if there's a guy who's worth the contract it would have to be Weber, but I don't think there's a player you lock up for 14 years when he's about to be 27 years old. . 14 years at 82 games per is 1148 total games. Only the top 125 players in league history have played that many games or more...and that's not taking into account that Weber is already on career game #480. Add them up and that gives you 1628 career games at the end of the contract (admittedly, that's "possible" games...we all know he isn't playing them all) which would put him at #8 on the all time list behind Stevens, Andreychuk, Chelios, Recchi, Francis, Messier and Howe. So yeah, it's an ambitious contract term to say the absolute least. Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Lots of disagreements to come... :)Adam, that possible trade should not only make you happy, it should make you eternally grateful. Leino no one wants at that contract, and I don't know if many teams would want a Gerbe. I also really disagree with you guys on Nashville matching. It was the right move in my opinion, not sure how you overpay for possibly the best D in the league. Four picks are not worth it, and nearly every team in the NHL will ask for him next year in a trade. That, and the organization can't afford to let him go. Also, the RFA process makes me laugh. I wish so called NHL fans would stop wondering why more teams don't sign players to offer sheets. And, Philly didn't lose a thing, they just tried, didn't work. Link to post Share on other sites
dEv~ 19 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Philly didn't lose a thing but they failed. And I enjoyed it.Agree that Nashville didn't really have a choice. Hopefully the fans do their part by attending and hopefully they continue to compete. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Lots of disagreements to come... :)Adam, that possible trade should not only make you happy, it should make you eternally grateful. Leino no one wants at that contract, and I don't know if many teams would want a Gerbe.I also really disagree with you guys on Nashville matching. It was the right move in my opinion, not sure how you overpay for possibly the best D in the league. Four picks are not worth it, and nearly every team in the NHL will ask for him next year in a trade. That, and the organization can't afford to let him go.Also, the RFA process makes me laugh. I wish so called NHL fans would stop wondering why more teams don't sign players to offer sheets.And, Philly didn't lose a thing, they just tried, didn't work.Like, people seem to think it's easy to sign players to offer sheets. Randoms are like, why are we not throwing an offer sheet at player x??????????? He has to want to sign it, and he has to be prepared for the possibility that it's matched and he gets that contract in the same city, blah blah blah. I hate the off-season, so many idiots out on the boards. Link to post Share on other sites
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