serge 904 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Team has been announced. No Bouwmeesteer, Phaneuf, Regehr ...No Lecavalier or Jeff Carter..The team is stacked pretty good.http://www.ctvolympics.ca/hockey/news/news...html?cid=rsstsn Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Its always said, but especially now, I would love to put together Team Canada B, and see how they do. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 No Marty St. Louis...can the US team get his eligibility if you guys don't want him plskthx? Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted December 30, 2009 Author Share Posted December 30, 2009 I think the area where Canada dominates everyone is the depth obviously.For example the Russians may have a better top 6 forward unit. The Americans may(up for debate) have a better number one goalie. However overall the team is so much deeper, especially if we could have sent more players..Just look at the dman left off...Mike Green, Dion Phaneuf, Jay Bouwmeester, Robyn Regehr..Thats a pretty sick defense that didnt even make the team.Unfortunately you can only send 23 players and only play one goalie and 7dman...So they wont be dominating this tourney like the Jrs, IMO. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 My predictions:Nash - Crosby - IginlaHeatley - Thornton - MarleauStaal - Getzlaf - PerryToews - Richards - Bergeron/MorrowNiedermayer - ProngerKeith - SeabrookBoyle - Weber/DoughtyBrodeurFleury/Luongo Link to post Share on other sites
Speed Limit 0 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 I bet Bouwmeester is pretty pissed about this, I remember him talking about looking forward to playing for Canada, I think in his mind he was a lock. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Goddamn I love Marty Brodeur.One of the things I'm looking forward to in this tournament is seeing guys like Jagr, Palffy, Morozov, etc play. I don't really know why.I'm pissed about Bergeron. Guess they'll stick him on the bench until they need him to win faceoffs in the last 2 minutes. F that. He's the third best centre on his team.What bothers me is guys like Lecavalier, Savard, Cammalleri being left off the list. Not that they should be in there instead of anyone else necessary...but it seems like the main knock against those guys is that they need other good players to be good. Fine, that is a significant knock against a player. But few people (I think) would argue that, playing with good players, those guys can be among the most productive in the league. And...they'll be playing with good players.Like I said though, I wouldn't necessarily argue any of those guys in particular are more deserving than the selections...except maybe Lecavalier instead of Bergeron.Also, must've killed them to have to choose between loyal guys like Smyth, Morrow and Doan. I feel very badly for Smyth, and especially Doan. Link to post Share on other sites
WestcoastCanuck 0 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Goddamn I love Marty Brodeur.One of the things I'm looking forward to in this tournament is seeing guys like Jagr, Palffy, Morozov, etc play. I don't really know why.I'm pissed about Bergeron. Guess they'll stick him on the bench until they need him to win faceoffs in the last 2 minutes. F that. He's the third best centre on his team.What bothers me is guys like Lecavalier, Savard, Cammalleri being left off the list. Not that they should be in there instead of anyone else necessary...but it seems like the main knock against those guys is that they need other good players to be good. Fine, that is a significant knock against a player. But few people (I think) would argue that, playing with good players, those guys can be among the most productive in the league. And...they'll be playing with good players.Like I said though, I wouldn't necessarily argue any of those guys in particular are more deserving than the selections...except maybe Lecavalier instead of Bergeron.Also, must've killed them to have to choose between loyal guys like Smyth, Morrow and Doan. I feel very badly for Smyth, and especially Doan.Smyth's injury took him out of the tournament. With the start he had, he had to be making a good push for the team. I would probably do Doan over Morrow, but what do I know. Link to post Share on other sites
SBriand 4 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Screw CanadaGo Sweden:P Link to post Share on other sites
canadianyanke 0 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 i wish fisher made it over morrow/richards/bergeron. Link to post Share on other sites
Babying 613 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 I can't believe Mike Green did not make the team. I rather have Green than Boyle anyday. Link to post Share on other sites
PhilBluff 0 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 I can't believe Mike Green did not make the team. I rather have Green than Boyle anyday.I'd rather have someone who can score AND play D as well. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Boyle >>>>>>>>>>> Green. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted December 30, 2009 Author Share Posted December 30, 2009 Green gets a bad rep on his defensive play...He is a plus 15, which is the second best in the league..He is by far the best offensive dmen in the game.... Link to post Share on other sites
Fenxis 99 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 i wish fisher made it over morrow/richards/bergeron.As much as Fisher would make huge contributions on the PK + energy, you have to consider:- injury history- this is by far a career year for him- inconsistent synergy with linematesHigh risk / high reward (relatively speaking) Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Green gets a bad rep on his defensive play...He is a plus 15, which is the second best in the league..He is by far the best offensive dmen in the game....I don't disagree he is a phenomenal offensive force, but he does have sub-par defensive skills. Did you watch him in the playoffs last year? He was horrid. I hear he's gotten better, but he's still not on par, or even close with any of the guys who made the team. And I'm sure you know that +/- is a meaningless stat when taken out of context. He also plays on the best offensive team in the NHL (partly because of his play), but I would imagine (although this is pure guessing right now) that he isn't used as a shut down defenseman against the other team's best forwards. Stuff like that makes +/- very useless.Having said that, the Canadians will not miss his offense. They have 5 of the top 10 highest scoring defensemen in the NHL this season, apparently, it wasn't worth the risk defensively, to make their defensive offense only a bit better. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 As much as Fisher would make huge contributions on the PK + energy, you have to consider:- injury history- this is by far a career year for him- inconsistent synergy with linematesHigh risk / high reward (relatively speaking)There's just no way he could be better than anyone who was picked, as good as he's been this year.He's kinda in the same boat as a guy like Jordan Staal. He could have been a huge PK and shut down force, but really, every guy that got picked can play the defensive game if necessary, so they go with the guys who have the bigger offensive upside, as well as solid defensive consciousness. Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Two different conversations I overheard today:#1. "Why the hell would they make Crosby the captain? He's not a leader, too much of a hot dog" (hes not the C. Just an A)"Yeah, and I cant believe that Bouwmeester made the team. They should have picked Phaneuf instead" (Bouw didnt make it!)#2. "Russia's problem will be Varlamov, he's not that good, and so young" (yes, the 3rd gtd on the team in a 2week tourney will be their downfall!)yeah, I just love Joe "Average Hockey Fan" Blow.You just want to yell "Shut up and just f'in assume Yzerman+ crew know more than you do!!" Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 I love that Doughty made this team. VERY deserving. VERY underrated. Link to post Share on other sites
doox 15 Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Goddamn I love Marty Brodeur.One of the things I'm looking forward to in this tournament is seeing guys like Jagr, Palffy, Morozov, etc play. I don't really know why.3 former Penguins. **** Ziggy Palffy, though He irks me more than Jagr and Hossa combined. Link to post Share on other sites
doox 15 Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Pierre Lebrun did a Canadian "B Team"http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?...e=lebrun_pierre Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 3 former Penguins. **** Ziggy Palffy, though He irks me more than Jagr and Hossa combined.Could be worse...Irbe could still be playing. Link to post Share on other sites
leftygolfer 7 Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Seabrook - KeithWhat's the consensus on this pairing? I'm obv. biased.These guys could play together for Canada's Olympic team 2-3 times. Link to post Share on other sites
SBriand 4 Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Seabrook - KeithWhat's the consensus on this pairing? I'm obv. biased.These guys could play together for Canada's Olympic team 2-3 times.It's arguably the best D pairing in the NHL right now. Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Green gets a bad rep on his defensive play...He is a plus 15, which is the second best in the league..He is by far the best offensive dmen in the game....You certainly can't argue with his offensive output and I think his +/- rating is augmented by that, therefore, I'm thinking that having more defensive minded defencemen is a better option, as we have more than enough forwards to put the puck in the net. Hence, me is OK with no Green. Link to post Share on other sites
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