DJ Vu 176 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 ^^^^^ Nailed it. Link to post Share on other sites
SilentSnow 1 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 The Heartland Institute might possibly be the most dishonest organization in the history of US think tanks. They only exist due to corruption and millions of people that really, really want to be fooled. Link to post Share on other sites
Roll the Bones 74 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Why the energy industry is so invested in climate change denialThe world most's profitable companies are valued by their carbon reserves – never mind the resulting ruin to the planethttp://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/ci...nail?CMP=twt_fd Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted February 23, 2012 Author Share Posted February 23, 2012 Fur hater hires hit man to randomly kill people wearing fur to make a point Link to post Share on other sites
SCYUKON 0 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Well it seems the tables have been turned. Someone released a whole bunch of private documents from the Heartland Institute, one the major anti-climate-change organizations. Story here:http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastro...te-change-spin/Great quote from one of the documents: Principals and teachers are heavily biased toward the alarmist perspective. To counter this we are considering launching an effort to develop alternative materials for K-12 classrooms. We are pursuing a proposal from Dr. David Wojick to produce a global warming curriculum for K-12 schools. Dr. Wojick is a consultant with the office of Scientific and Technical Information at the U.S. Department of Energy in the area of information and communication science. His effort effort will focus on providing curriculum that shows that the topic of climate change is controversial and uncertain – two key points that are effective at dissuading teachers from teaching science.Nice.I think you mean "nice forgery". Paul Harvey time....http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/eth...qjTR_story.html Link to post Share on other sites
SCYUKON 0 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Can't blame the GW crowd though. Some of their bretheren are actually starting to look at the data and verify what us "deniers" have long known to be true.http://www.edmontonjournal.com/business/Im...3092/story.htmlAmen. Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Two recent reports on the climate change front, that I'm too lazy to find links for.First, scientists think that the reason there has been no warming for the last ten years is because China is burning so much sulfur with their greenhouse gases. Sulfur tends to suppress the effects of warming, so China basically offset their own warming effect and then some. China has recently adopted stricter standards on sulfur emissions, so this study predicted that as those laws take effect warming will resume.The second story was that scientists found that cloud cover has gone lower over the decade. This causes the Earth to cool faster. There is a possibility that this is a natural feedback loop in the Earth's atmosphere that could offset any greenhouse warming for a long time. This was the early stages of this study, and has not been incorporated into models, so there is quite a bit of uncertainty, but it appears to hold up for as long as they have accurate data. Link to post Share on other sites
SCYUKON 0 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 And a link to a video explaining "Fakegate", for those not wanting to put out the effort to read the Washington Post article on the faked Heartland Institute documents:http://www.kusi.com/video?clipId=6777499&autostart=trueLawsuits may follow. Pass the popcorn! Link to post Share on other sites
akoff 0 Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 And a link to a video explaining "Fakegate", for those not wanting to put out the effort to read the Washington Post article on the faked Heartland Institute documents:http://www.kusi.com/video?clipId=6777499&autostart=trueLawsuits may follow. Pass the popcorn!not a big suprise, just another lefty wingnut...hard to believe a scientist from California would be a crazy tree hugger. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted February 28, 2012 Author Share Posted February 28, 2012 Finally the Obama administration is doing something to save the Spotted Owl.They're shooting the Barred Owl.I so love lefties when they try to save things... Link to post Share on other sites
LongLiveYorke 38 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Finally the Obama administration is doing something to save the Spotted Owl.They're shooting the Barred Owl.I so love lefties when they try to save things...Gotta shoot something... Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 Gotta shoot something...You are slowly morphing into a republican. Welcome. Link to post Share on other sites
SCYUKON 0 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 You are slowly morphing into a republican. Welcome.I turned my 14 year old into a conservative just the other day (she had been starting to have some troubling left wing leanings based on what they were telling her in school). All I had to do was show her my T4 slip for the year and explain where the income tax deduction was going, and how the more you made, the more you paid. She was horrified. Mission accomplished! Link to post Share on other sites
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vbnautilus 48 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I turned my 14 year old into a conservative just the other day (she had been starting to have some troubling left wing leanings based on what they were telling her in school). All I had to do was show her my T4 slip for the year and explain where the income tax deduction was going, and how the more you made, the more you paid. She was horrified. Mission accomplished! Was that the school that your taxes paid for? Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Was that the school that your taxes paid for?Yeah, it's amazing the inferior things the govt makes us pay for. Link to post Share on other sites
vbnautilus 48 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Yeah, it's amazing the inferior things the govt makes us pay for.Just seems like a missing piece of the kid's lesson to not tell him what the money is being spent on, regardless of whether you want to insult his school in the process.Anyways, you don't have to try too hard to turn your kids into conservatives, it's genetic. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 Just seems like a missing piece of the kid's lesson to not tell him what the money is being spent on, regardless of whether you want to insult his school in the process.Anyways, you don't have to try too hard to turn your kids into conservatives, it's genetic.You're just trying to sway my opinion on abortion by suggesting we can kill liberals before they spread their disease by abortions based on genetic presupposition.It won't work, I even support liberals right to be born.Now, if they would just grow up. Link to post Share on other sites
The Ocho 970 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 You're just trying to sway my opinion on abortion by suggesting we can kill liberals before they spread their disease by abortions based on genetic presupposition.It won't work, I even support liberals right to be born.Now, if they would just grow up.You've been saving that one, haven't you? Link to post Share on other sites
SCYUKON 0 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Was that the school that your taxes paid for?Unfortunately, yes, I am sure some portion of the gross (disgusting gross, not accounting gross) amount of income tax I pay goes toward that, in addition to all the other school fees I get to pay over and above that amount.I am glad I straightened her out before I had to go hunting around for a private school which does not blindly shill all the GW propaganda. Hopefully some do exist if she relapses.I guess maybe I should not deny her the liberal experience, as someone once told me that if you were not a liberal when young, you had no heart, whereas if you were not a conservative when old, you had no brain.I already know she has a good heart and a good brain, so I think I will just skip the nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted September 21, 2012 Author Share Posted September 21, 2012 Looks like we're going to need to break out those "The earth is entering a new ice age" books again. Link to post Share on other sites
SilentSnow 1 Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Looks like we're going to need to break out those "The earth is entering a new ice age" books again. Lol. I like how you conveniently forget to mention that the Arctic ice got completely annihilated this year and that Antarctica is far less important than the Arctic when assessing the impact of Global warming. http://www.skeptical...gaining-ice.htm You also forgot to mention that we've had record heat waves, droughts and flooding in the last few years and it seems that scientists have actually underestimated how sensitive the planet is to warming. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted September 21, 2012 Author Share Posted September 21, 2012 So its not GLOBAL WARMING...it's LOCALIZED warming that we are fighting? Got it. Link to post Share on other sites
colonel Feathers 5 Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Lol. I like how you conveniently forget to mention that the Arctic ice got completely annihilated this year and that Antarctica is far less important than the Arctic when assessing the impact of Global warming. http://www.skeptical...gaining-ice.htm The You also forgot to mention that we've had record heat waves, droughts and flooding in the last few years and it seems that scientists have actually underestimated how sensitive the planet is to warming. The last few years!!!! So you are extrapolating a few year trend on a time line of a few billion years. By the way, the 1500s were the warmest as far as we can tell. Wat did humans do to cause that, or wat measures were taking by the people of the day to reverse the trend which occured in the 1600s Link to post Share on other sites
SilentSnow 1 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 The last few years!!!! So you are extrapolating a few year trend on a time line of a few billion years. By the way, the 1500s were the warmest as far as we can tell. Wat did humans do to cause that, or wat measures were taking by the people of the day to reverse the trend which occured in the 1600s I'm not extrapolating. I'm pointing out that the last few years confirm that the several century long warming trend is greatly accelerating, as predicted by climate models. And by the way, the "medieval warming period was warmer" is a myth. http://www.skeptical...warm-period.htm However, the models are likely to be wrong in some ways. They actually seem to have underestimated how sensitive the earth is to warming. They did not predict all of these extreme climate events this early. The models have also been wildly wrong about arctic ice melt. The Arctic is melting 100 years ahead of schedule. Many of the models do not include feedback effects because they can be difficult to model. Some of the better models are showing that climate destruction will be far worse than predicted by the IPCC. http://web.mit.edu/n...lette-0519.html This book probably overstates things, but read it if you want to get an idea of how bad things can get. The tens of billions of dollars in damage caused by global warming in the last couple years is just the tip of the iceburg. http://www.wundergro...vere/severe.asp http://www.amazon.co...words=6 degrees Link to post Share on other sites
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