Palin Plays The Bill Ayers Card

[Zealous Donkey 0]

And you enjoy yours dear. Good thing for you that God is non-partisan .

Don't you know that God is a Republican? but Santa Claus is a democrat.Why God is a Republican and Santa Claus is a DemocratParliament of Whores: A Lone Humorist Attempts To Explain The Entire U. S. Government | 1991 | P. J. O'Rourke Posted on Saturday, December 08, 2001 3:22:36 PM by EveningStarI have only one firm belief about the American political system, and that is this: God is a Republican and Santa Claus is a Democrat. God is an elderly or, at any rate, middle aged male, a stern fellow, patriarchal rather than paternal and a great believer in rules and regulations. He holds men accountable for their actions. He has little apparent concern for the material well being of the disadvantaged. He is politically connected, socially powerful and holds the mortgage on literally everything in the world. God is difficult. God is unsentimental. It is very hard to get into God's heavenly country club. Santa Claus is another matter. He's cute. He's nonthreatening. He's always cheerful. And he loves animals. He may know who's been naughty and who's been nice, but he never does anything about it. He gives everyone everything they want without the thought of quid pro quo. He works hard for charities, and he's famously generous to the poor. Santa Claus is preferable to God in every way but one: There is no such thing as Santa Claus.

[CaneBrain 95]

With just a minor couple of changes, I find this to fit perfectly with another politician running in this election.

Barack Obama, like Sarah Palin, is a very good politician. No argument from me on that.

[85suited 0]

Anyone have an issue with ACORN?

[copernicus 0]

Anyone have an issue with ACORN?

Nahh....felons convicted of idenity theft hired to manage their Nv locations, homeless siging up 73 times, newly registered being shuttled to vote the same day by workers campaigning for Obama, promising every other year that theyll clean up their act, clst aiming that it isnt "voter fraud" because their recruits are just registering not actually voted....Who could have an issue with them. They are helping the poor become part of the process.<choke>

[85suited 0]

Cop,How much did John McCain give to ACORN or ACORN FRONT Companies?

[copernicus 0]

Cop,How much did John McCain give to ACORN or ACORN FRONT Companies?

$1.50 for bus fare?

[LongLiveYorke 38]

You guys are still harping on this crap? Ayers? Troopergate? Let them go. This is slowly getting worse than Fox News.

[CaneBrain 95]

You guys are still harping on this crap? Ayers? Troopergate? Let them go. This is slowly getting worse than Fox News.

no, no we are onto to ACORN now. I am crossing my fingers Swift Boat comes up soon.

[Nimue1995 1]

no, no we are onto to ACORN now. I am crossing my fingers Swift Boat comes up soon.

Saw the lady that heads ACORN (might be one of their chapters, not sure about that) but she basically said that "yes we did pass on cards with names like Mickey Mouse on them but we flagged them so that those workers who turned them in to us got fired." That's their story anyway. Not sure what the heck is going on unless people are getting paid for the number of cards they turn in and decided to pad their paycheck. Happened here in Montana when people were paid for each signature on an initiative petition they were peddling.

[flyingdonkey 0]

Anyone have an issue with ACORN?

Yes, I can't believe McCain is associated with them! http://www.jedreport.com/2008/10/mccain-to...are-what-m.html

[Vandees 0]

Yes, I can't believe McCain is associated with them! http://www.jedreport.com/2008/10/mccain-to...are-what-m.html

Yeah, that's pretty similar to Obama's relationship. Good one. ACORN needs to be shut down. Yesterday. Who knows how many elections they have affected. This has happened in every election since 2002, it is now obvious it is not "rogue" members of the group, but an agencywide directive: fix the elections.

[Loismustdie 0]

Yeah, that's pretty similar to Obama's relationship. Good one. ACORN needs to be shut down. Yesterday. Who knows how many elections they have affected. This has happened in every election since 2002, it is now obvious it is not "rogue" members of the group, but an agencywide directive: fix the elections.

This isn't really an issue, though. Obama said so so it must be true, no?

[copernicus 0]

This isn't really an issue, though. Obama said so so it must be true, no?

ACORN issued a statement basically saying "Obama, wtf did you say last night. You taught two of our leadership conferences"

[Balloon guy 158]

ACORN issued a statement basically saying "Obama, wtf did you say last night. You taught two of our leadership conferences"

He was 8 years old when voting fraud started in Chicago, how is he responsible for that?

[copernicus 0]

He was -28 years old when voting fraud started in Chicago, how is he responsible for that?

Time machine.

[irishguy 14]

NEW YORK - John McCain told David Letterman that "I screwed up" by canceling a "Late Show" appearance three weeks ago, then faced a sharp round of questioning about Sarah Palin and his campaign tactics. Not willing to risk the wrath of Letterman again, the Republican presidential candidate rented a helicopter to fly to New York after a weather delay grounded his campaign airplane in Philadelphia. He had canceled a Sept. 24 appearance during the brief suspension of his campaign because of the economic crisis, and Letterman has been hammering him ever since.The band played the Who's "I Can't Explain" as McCain walked onstage at the Ed Sullivan Theater. After he sat down, Letterman asked, "Can you stay?""Depends on how bad it gets," McCain answered.Letterman had replaced McCain with the GOP hopeful's persistent critic, MSNBC's Keith Olbermann, on Sept. 24. Olbermann was waiting in the wings Thursday — and McCain had a pained expression when he noticed that.Although Letterman said he was "willing to put this behind us," he came after McCain hard with questions. He asked whether Palin was his first choice as vice president."Absolutely," McCain answered.He said he didn't know her well before choosing her, but that he was impressed by her reputation as a reformer.Letterman repeatedly pressed McCain on her qualifications, asking if he was confident she could lead the country in a time of crisis."In all due respect, one of the people I admired most was an obscure governor of a southern state called Arkansas and he turned out to be a fairly successful president," McCain said, complimenting Bill Clinton. "Ronald Reagan was a cowboy, no experience in international affairs. I think she has shown leadership."As Letterman pressed on, McCain asked, "Have we pretty well exhausted this?""No, no," Letterman said. "I'm just getting started."Letterman questioned him about Palin's claim that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama "palled around with terrorists," and McCain backed her up, saying his opponent need to better explain his relationship with former Weather Underground activist William Ayers."Did you not have a relationship with Gordon Liddy?" Letterman asked about Watergate burglar G. Gordon Liddy.McCain said he knew him. Then, after a commercial break, McCain said, "I know Gordon Liddy. He paid his debt, he went to prison ... I'm not in any was embarrassed to know Gordon Liddy.""You understand the same case could be made of your relationship with him as is being made with William Ayers?" Letterman said.McCain said he has been completely open about his relationship with Liddy.Letterman appeared to ridicule McCain about the implication that Obama and Ayers had a relationship. "Are they double-dating, are they going to dinner, what are they doing?" Letterman asked. "Are they driving across country?" "Maybe going to Denny's," McCain said. Letterman said that Obama was 8 when Ayers was 29, and McCain appeared exasperated. "There's millions of words said in a campaign. C'mon, Dave," he said. McCain said he thought Palin would appear on NBC's "Saturday Night Live," where Tina Fey has been doing a dead-on impersonation of her. "Probably get more of an audience than our debate did," he said. Although Letterman had said he felt like an "ugly date" after McCain's initial cancellation, representatives for the two men never stopped talking about a return date. While McCain risked a rough appearance — "I haven't had so much fun since my last interrogation," he said — it gave him the chance to show courage in the face of fire. Letterman reaches about 4 million people a night, a number sure to increase with McCain as guest. With clips on the Internet and Friday morning news, countless more people will undoubtedly learn about their encounter. McCain did offer one campaign promise that he was probably more likely to keep after he left the stage. "It's not the time to raise anybody's taxes — except yours," he said to Letterman. "I guarantee you if I become president, I'll do it. First executive order."

[85suited 0]

it depends on the association. If Obama and Ayers were actually close, it might worry me slightly. By most accounts, they merely are both active in helping the Chicago community which has made them be in contact a few times.

there is still no proof that Obama and Ayers are anything other than two people who have met a few times at charitable or political functions.

As far as I am concerned, none of that is proof they are anything more than what I have said. I think you are the one with blinders. This is a story that was already investigated thoroughly and amounted to nothing because nothing is there. If there was something, one of the respected conservative publications would have made it in an issue before now. (Although I am sure, the NY Post will have a field day)

More than just some "guy in my neighborhood"by Curt MercadanteWell, it seems Chicago's most famous domestic terrorist, Bill Ayers, has written a memoir. And guess who he writes about in the afterward of his new book? You got it. President-Elect Obama.If you recall, during the campaign Obama referred to Ayers as just "a guy who lives in my neighborhood." During the third and final Presidential debate, Obama also denied having one of the initial campaign fundraisers of his political career in Ayers' home. It appears Mr. Ayers doesn't see it quite the same way. From his memoir:In 2008 there was a lot of chatter on the blogosphere about my relationship with Barack Obama: we had served together on the board of a foundation, knew one another as neighbors and family friends, held an initial fundraiser at my house, where I'd made a small donation to his earliest political campaign.Family friends. Initial fundraiser at his house. Political donor.Change we can believe in? Or a Chicago politician we simply can't believe.

[vbnautilus 48]

More than just some "guy in my neighborhood"by Curt MercadanteWell, it seems Chicago's most famous domestic terrorist, Bill Ayers, has written a memoir. And guess who he writes about in the afterward of his new book? You got it. President-Elect Obama.If you recall, during the campaign Obama referred to Ayers as just "a guy who lives in my neighborhood." During the third and final Presidential debate, Obama also denied having one of the initial campaign fundraisers of his political career in Ayers' home. It appears Mr. Ayers doesn't see it quite the same way. From his memoir:In 2008 there was a lot of chatter on the blogosphere about my relationship with Barack Obama: we had served together on the board of a foundation, knew one another as neighbors and family friends, held an initial fundraiser at my house, where I'd made a small donation to his earliest political campaign.Family friends. Initial fundraiser at his house. Political donor.Change we can believe in? Or a Chicago politician we simply can't believe.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/14/aye...view/index.html"I became an issue unwittingly and unwillingly in the campaign, and I decided that I didn't want to answer any of it at that moment because it was such a profoundly dishonest narrative," Ayers said."We had him in our home, and I think he was probably in 20 homes that day," Ayers said, also refusing to back down from his previous comments. "This idea that we need to know more, like there's a dark hidden secret, a secret link, is just a myth," Ayers said. "And it's a myth thrown up by people who kind of wanted to exploit the politics of fear, and I think it's a great credit to the American people that those politics were rejected."

[85suited 0]

Is he just some guy in the neighborhood or are they family friends?just some more politicians bs...

[irishguy 14]

Is he just some guy in the neighborhood or are they family friends?just some more politicians bs...

Some people consider people that live in their neighbourhoods and serve on the same boards as them to be "family friends" it doesn't mean that the two spent a ton of time together, took family vacations together or were each others secret Santa's and it also doesn't mean that they sat around and planned world domination together but this is another one of those issues that you will continue to dredge up and make more then what it is. Let it go, Obama won.

[CaneBrain 95]

More than just some "guy in my neighborhood"by Curt MercadanteWell, it seems Chicago's most famous domestic terrorist, Bill Ayers, has written a memoir. And guess who he writes about in the afterward of his new book? You got it. President-Elect Obama.If you recall, during the campaign Obama referred to Ayers as just "a guy who lives in my neighborhood." During the third and final Presidential debate, Obama also denied having one of the initial campaign fundraisers of his political career in Ayers' home. It appears Mr. Ayers doesn't see it quite the same way. From his memoir:In 2008 there was a lot of chatter on the blogosphere about my relationship with Barack Obama: we had served together on the board of a foundation, knew one another as neighbors and family friends, held an initial fundraiser at my house, where I'd made a small donation to his earliest political campaign.Family friends. Initial fundraiser at his house. Political donor.Change we can believe in? Or a Chicago politician we simply can't believe.

this is getting sad. I should not even respond but I will say that it would make perfect sense that someone would trump up their relationship with the president elect in their memoir. I also find it funny that you think Ayers is a despicable terrorist and yet you trust anything he writes implicitly. Do you also believe everything Ahminajihad says?

[Nimue1995 1]

85's approach to politics is to decide what he wants to be the truth first and then go find anything that backs up that belief. He will discount anything that doesn't as being either a lie or a coverup. When it's finally proven to anyone else's standard that it's false, he'll either attack the source or ignore it completely and move on to something else to support his vision of the truth. I've seen it before in many people in the far right wing of the Republican Party.

[85suited 0]

85's approach to politics is to decide what he wants to be the truth first and then go find anything that backs up that belief. He will discount anything that doesn't as being either a lie or a coverup. When it's finally proven to anyone else's standard that it's false, he'll either attack the source or ignore it completely and move on to something else to support his vision of the truth. I've seen it before in many people in the far right wing of the Republican Party.

Far right wing.LOL.. obviously you haven't paid attention... I started a third party thread... I have said many times I would vote for a moderate democrat...I love how this is my version of the truth.. The truth is they have a far greater relationship than he ever admitted Why?? because it would effect him politically to admit it...

[85suited 0]

Some people consider people that live in their neighbourhoods and serve on the same boards as them to be "family friends" it doesn't mean that the two spent a ton of time together, took family vacations together or were each others secret Santa's and it also doesn't mean that they sat around and planned world domination together but this is another one of those issues that you will continue to dredge up and make more then what it is. Let it go, Obama won.

Drink the Cool Aide...

[irishguy 14]

Drink the Cool Aide...

Yep anyone smart enough to articulate a different point of view then you is brainwashed. I'm sure you are as right here as you were about the birth certificate. Ayers and Obama likely do take family vacations together and talk on the phone every morning to plot their wardrobes or then again maybe your just brainwashed by the right to believe this is more of an issue then it is.