hblask 1 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 House passes bill to relax Internet gambling restrictionsBy Jacqui Cheng | Published: September 18, 2008 - 11:54AM CTInternet gambling may be making a comeback here in the US, at least as financial services are concerned. The House Committee on Financial Services has approved a new bill—HR 6870, or the Payments System Protection Act—that seeks to offer relief to financial institutions that are currently barred from processing payments made to online gambling sites. If approved by the Senate, Americans will find one of the biggest online gambling restrictions removed.The new bill would put off implementation of the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006. The 2006 legislation attempted to address online gambling by prohibiting wire transfers, "payment system instruments," and credit cards from being used as payment methods for everything online but a small selection of wagers (horse races, mostly). This forced some online ventures, like the ever-popular Texas Hold 'Em poker sites, to take a major hit as banks and financial institutions were barred from letting users pay to play. The legislation also targeted offshore gambling sites that were aimed at American users.Opponents of the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act long argued that attempting to ban online gambling would be futile because of the sheer number offshore sites that are happy to accept American money, and it's near impossible to try and strong arm other countries into complying with US law. In fact, the World Trade Organization made it clear that it wasn't happy with the US stance against online gambling, saying that the US discriminates against WTO member countries by treating US-based horse racing differently than offshore gambling sites. According to the WTO, the US doesn't have the right under the General Agreement on Trade Services to limit such services from other countries.More recently, the Remote Gambling Association has also taken issue with US enforcement against Europe-based sites. The gambling industry in Europe had first petitioned the European Commission earlier this year to begin an investigation into whether the US was targeting EU companies for enforcement of the 2006 law while allowing US continue operations, and now the case may soon move onto the WTO. "It looks very much as if this matter will... be sent to the WTO at the end of the commission's investigation," Remote Gambling Association counsel Lode Van Den Hende told Reuters.The House Committee is attempting to stave off further WTO action with the newly-proposed legislation, in addition to giving citizens a little more of their online freedom back. Americans will once again be able to easily play online poker with real money, although gambling on sports (with the exception of jai-alai, horse, and dog racing) will still remain illegal. "Adults are entitled to do with their money what they want to do," Committee Chairman Representative Barney Frank (D-MA) said when explaining the introduction of the bill, according to InformationWeek. The full House of Representatives may vote on the bill as early as next week. Link to post Share on other sites
Jam-Fly 8 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 1, 2, 3..COOL CATS! Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 I think that article is wrong? As far as I know it just made it to committee and hasn't been passed? Link to post Share on other sites
The Lobster 0 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 House passes bill to relax Internet gambling restrictionsBy Jacqui Cheng | Published: September 18, 2008 - 11:54AM CTInternet gambling may be making a comeback here in the US, at least as financial services are concerned. The House Committee on Financial Services has approved a new bill—HR 6870, ..... I think that article is wrong? As far as I know it just made it to committee and hasn't been passed?Article is right, title of article is misleading. Might go to the House for a vote next week. Link to post Share on other sites
Sheiky 0 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 What does it mean when it says 'The new bill would put off implementation of the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006.' ?Has the UIGEA not already been in force for two years? Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 What does it mean when it says 'The new bill would put off implementation of the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006.' ?Has the UIGEA not already been in force for two years?They haven't really forced implementation though. As far as I understand it would put it off so they could conduct studies part of which could find a niche for poker to not be included. Link to post Share on other sites
nutzbuster 7 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 rigged.obv.ftw Link to post Share on other sites
dms26 3 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Anyone know if this would put Neteller back in business in the US? Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 at least things are coming!gooo Barney Frank! Link to post Share on other sites
psujohn 0 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Has the UIGEA not already been in force for two years?UIGEA wasn't a regulation. It was instructions to the executive branch to draft regulations. They haven't done so yet.Basically all the fallout from UIGEA has been from banks anticipating what was to come and from the Feds enforcing laws which existed prior to UIGEA.There have been other attempts to halt the UIGEA regulations in part because the laws are so vague and in part because the regulations could be quite expensive for banks to follow. Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted September 18, 2008 Author Share Posted September 18, 2008 So who is the pro that Barry is talking about? Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted September 18, 2008 Author Share Posted September 18, 2008 lol, wrong thread.... Link to post Share on other sites
Veener Schnitz 0 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 partypoker.com is going to be shaking the poker world in 5 days. WORLD! that includes the US! :D :qh :icon_clap:/end wishful thinking Link to post Share on other sites
Steamed Rice 0 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 OOOOOOOOOHHHHH PARTY POKAH Link to post Share on other sites
Suited_Up 2 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 PLEASE BE PASSED!PLEASE BE PASSED!PLEASE BE PASSED!PLEASE BE PASSED!PLEASE BE PASSED! Link to post Share on other sites
Stretchy 0 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Do you think PartyPoker is going to take over again if the Bill is passed? Will Pstars and FT take a back seat to partypoker? Also what would be the major reason why people would flock back to Party Poker? ( I just started playing online poker for real money after the bill was passed) Also if Netteller comes back that would be much more convenient. Link to post Share on other sites
LongLiveYorke 38 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Can't we get ZeeJustin to go to the House and vote like 50 times on this? Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtydutch 8 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Can't we get ZeeJustin to go to the House and vote like 50 times on this?I laughed, but partially because this thread has me in such a good mood. Link to post Share on other sites
chgocubs99 0 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Do you think PartyPoker is going to take over again if the Bill is passed? Will Pstars and FT take a back seat to partypoker? Also what would be the major reason why people would flock back to Party Poker? ( I just started playing online poker for real money after the bill was passed) Also if Netteller comes back that would be much more convenient.Party Poker used to have really soft games. If it comes back now the games probably wouldn't be as soft anymore anyway...I agree with you that the most important thing needed to get fish back in the game is to have convienent and easy ways to deposit. If that isn't there it won't really matter if Party or any other site comes back. Link to post Share on other sites
wsox8 10 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 I really want neteller back. Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Barneeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy FRANK! ONETIMEMOTHERFUCKERS! Link to post Share on other sites
navybuttons 15 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Party Poker used to have really soft games. If it comes back now the games probably wouldn't be as soft anymore anywaythey'll never be as soft as they used to be. but party poker was dropping millions in advertising which was bringing all the softest players to their site. if party was to re-enter the market at full force hopefully they'd bring tons of advertising dollars to reach a much larger population.also, there's probably tons of soft euro sites that are such because they aren't open to american players, but they'd have generally softer games too. Link to post Share on other sites
wsox8 10 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 they'll never be as soft as they used to be. but party poker was dropping millions in advertising which was bringing all the softest players to their site. if party was to re-enter the market at full force hopefully they'd bring tons of advertising dollars to reach a much larger population.also, there's probably tons of soft euro sites that are such because they aren't open to american players, but they'd have generally softer games too.HELLO Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtydutch 8 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Often times when someone has a signature-image of a titillating-but-anonymous nature, I "save as" to see if the file name gives away the subject's identity. NavyButtons' has thwarted this motive, but repaid me with the hysteria of the comical concision of the result. Enjoy. Link to post Share on other sites
navybuttons 15 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 hysteria of the comical concision of the result.i thought i was going to be way more okay with it than i am. i expect it to last another day or so. it's really tough for me to take. Link to post Share on other sites
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