theabyss 0 Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 Without talking about position in the technical sense of the word, I think that where people are at a live game has a large impact on how certain hands play out.Basically what i mean is that if you engage in conversation with players by virtue of them sitting closer to you (rather than across the table, ie. further away and less conducive to chitchat) it ultimately could impact the way you bet against that player should the situation arise.If you are having friendly convo with someone at a live game or tourny you may not be as aggressive against them later because of the intangible "friendly atmosphere" that has been created.i think this is part of why i prefer to listen to music when i play at live games. I dont mean to be rude but this way i have no remorse about check raising someone or slow playing when i have the nuts. Maybe im too empathetic to begin with but i generally would feel worse busting up someone who was earlier being extra nice to me. If they are Dbags on the other hand, .....whole nuther story.cliffnotes - i think i should be meaner Link to post Share on other sites
Veener Schnitz 0 Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 I recently went to a new doctor and noticed he was located in something called the Professional Building. I felt better right away. Link to post Share on other sites
chgocubs99 0 Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 Yea I just don't say anything pretty much ever. Link to post Share on other sites
Jariso13 1 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Its always poker...whether your friends or not. Link to post Share on other sites
Cappy37 0 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 It works two ways: you're also going to get bet at lighter and check-raises against you hold more weight. I know a certain tomato who gets a level of respect and leeway on micro turbo tables, where people aren't even supposed to be paying attention in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites
Jam-Fly 8 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I recently went to a new doctor and noticed he was located in something called the Professional Building. I felt better right away. I ****ING LOVE COLOURING!!!!!!!!!!Also, I'm too lazy to reply, but I think the topic is actually good and should be discussed, not just flames to the OP. Basically, I support the OP and encourage others not to flame him.Now I'm tired, so good night. Link to post Share on other sites
chgocubs99 0 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I'll let you know when I see the first flame, then. Link to post Share on other sites
travisg2 0 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I recently went to a new doctor and noticed he was located in something called the Professional Building. I felt better right away. blatantly imitating fluffdog Link to post Share on other sites
copernicus 0 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 couldnt disagree more with the OP. If you sit down and engage in those conversations with a "predatory attitude" (internally) , ie focusing on establishing a baseline of behavior to compare to and take advantage of later on, then you will not subconciously soft play later, you will persist in seeing him as your victim. Listening to music and not talking doesnt allow you to pick up on verbal cues if villain is willing to talk during a hand, and also creates an isolation that I dont think is conducive to focusing on everything going on. Link to post Share on other sites
Veener Schnitz 0 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 blatantly imitating fluffdog oh yeah i forgot, the bold function was created by and for fluffdog.... Link to post Share on other sites
Merby 3 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Don't sit next to stinky people.There's my $0.02 Link to post Share on other sites
ROBBBIGG 0 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 if i can get the good players to softplay vs me, that helps me Link to post Share on other sites
A_Bullets_A 0 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I've noticed that people who are talking a lot more and joking around with the table can get a lot more action than someone who sits silently. I'm usually pretty quiet too, but I've been trying to work on that lately. Even if you're playing pretty tight they don't seem to notice as much because you don't have the image of being a serious player. Also, what you said about playing soft against people that have been nice can sort of work another way too. You can take those people off the best hand a lot more. They don't seem to expect the guy that was being so friendly towards them earlier would be trying to bluff them now. Then just tell them you had a set or something and they'll still like you so it can work again later, LOL. Link to post Share on other sites
fighter 4 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I've noticed that people who are talking a lot more and joking around with the table can get a lot more action than someone who sits silently. I'm usually pretty quiet too, but I've been trying to work on that lately. Even if you're playing pretty tight they don't seem to notice as much because you don't have the image of being a serious player. Also, what you said about playing soft against people that have been nice can sort of work another way too. You can take those people off the best hand a lot more. They don't seem to expect the guy that was being so friendly towards them earlier would be trying to bluff them now. Then just tell them you had a set or something and they'll still like you so it can work again later, LOL.is that what you did against stormer13 ? Link to post Share on other sites
fleung22 1 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 hmm...OP, I think you could make a generalization about nicer people being treated nicer.Myself...I'm pretty much always a nice guy at the table. There are some benefits but I think there are benefits to being a prick too. I see my poker game and coffee housing as mutually exclusive. It's a game and I'm still going to play it right.Hell, I'll check-raise my own grandma! Link to post Share on other sites
rivergirl 2 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 at our casino, headphones are not allowed at the table, so i guess that rules that out of the question. I am typically the nice person at the table and i'm always very talkative. I've tried to learn to stay in the conversation even during a hand, i hope the consistency of this doesn't give off anything. I also NEVER soft play anyone at the table, i have on occasion bought a beer for the guy i felted, but i've never felt bad doing it, i'm there to make money. Link to post Share on other sites
Flushgarden 0 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 When you're at the table you should be as friendly and as talkative as you can. If people are having a good time they wont feel as bad about losing money. They'll stay longer. They might rebuy one extra time. They might come back again. Being good at table conversation is just another aspect of the game that one needs to learn how to do well in order to maximize profit. Link to post Share on other sites
Potsie P 0 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I'm with copernicus that keeping a killer mindset internally is key. But if you can put on a jovial external face while you're doing that, to me that's the key. I prefer live play because coffeehousing is fun, but coffeehousing while fleecing opponents is the nuts. And I've found that it helps me conceal tells. Basically, if I'm having a good time (bullsh*tting, telling jokes, talking sports, etc), it's easy to keep a genuine smile on my face even as I'm sh*tting bricks about my hand.I also agree with flushgarden. Make it a good time, and they'll always come back. Link to post Share on other sites
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