rdtedm 0 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Been a while since I played 1/2 live, but I went last night and here's a tricky spot.Hero's image is LAG. Shown one big bluff on a 4 flush board. Otherwise, when hands hero has reached showdown, he's won maybe 4/5.Villain is a TAG player. Most competent player at the table, picks spots well and reads players well. Capable of bluffing, but never shows.1/2 NL 7-handedhero ($400)villain ($420)PreflopHero is Button with :ksVillain is UTGSB, BB PostUTG raises to $7folds to MPMP1 calls $7Folds to heroHero raises to $25SB, BB foldUTG calls $25MP1 foldsFlop ($60) :9sVillain bets $35Hero raises to $90Villain calls $90Turn ($240) :D :4dVillain bets $200Hero...? Link to post Share on other sites
Metternich 0 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Think I go all in, nothing you can do if he shows a set of 9s. Link to post Share on other sites
Sheiky 0 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 I have no idea.Push?As i'm clueless and trying to use pokerstove more, have some random numbers-Board: Ah Kh 9sDead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 58.858% 51.40% 07.46% 6615 960.00 { AsKs }Hand 1: 41.142% 33.68% 07.46% 4335 960.00 { KK+, 99, AhKh, AhQh, AhJh, KhQh, AQo+ } Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Shove. I can't fold top 2 here. Like the above said, if it's 9-9 sigh deeply and hit your four outer. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 AK9 with a flush draw is NOT a dry board. Not even close.This is not a tricky spot. You have top 2 pair, which is pretty much the nuts on this board. If he's got 99, too bad for you because all of your chips are going into the middle. Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 I have no idea.Push?As i'm clueless and trying to use pokerstove more, have some random numbers-Board: Ah Kh 9sDead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 58.858% 51.40% 07.46% 6615 960.00 { AsKs }Hand 1: 41.142% 33.68% 07.46% 4335 960.00 { KK+, 99, AhKh, AhQh, AhJh, KhQh, AQo+ }By the way, this range is so wrong, he can't have any of these: AhKh, AhQh, AhJh, KhQh Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 AK9 with a flush draw is NOT a dry board. Not even close.This is not a tricky spot. You have top 2 pair, which is pretty much the nuts on this board. If he's got 99, too bad for you because all of your chips are going into the middle.Absolutely. Link to post Share on other sites
Sheiky 0 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 By the way, this range is so wrong, he can't have any of these: AhKh, AhQh, AhJh, KhQhBleh Link to post Share on other sites
rainbowbrite 0 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 I find that board very scarythat said I don't think this is a spot where I am folding top 2as acid said. if he has a set of 9s that just sucks Link to post Share on other sites
Trillske 0 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Instapush.Actually, no mather what he has here, he doesnt seem all that competent. Unless youre an extreme NIT or something and he is drawing heavy. Link to post Share on other sites
AimHigher 0 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 By the way, this range is so wrong, he can't have any of these: AhKh, AhQh, AhJh, KhQhFor the less enlightened of us, Why? Link to post Share on other sites
Trillske 0 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 For the less enlightened of us, Why?Becuase AhKh is in the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
AimHigher 0 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Becuase AhKh is in the flop. So what happened to the Ad, Ac, Kd and Kc? Link to post Share on other sites
Trillske 0 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 So what happened to the Ad, Ac, Kd and Kc? Those are legit, but AhKh is not, and I think Sheiky was after FD-only in his range. Link to post Share on other sites
pt special 0 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 ya thats a shove...you are occasionally gonna get the super cooler but nothing you are going to do about it Link to post Share on other sites
Moneyball16 0 Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 AK9 with a flush draw is NOT a dry board. Not even close.Against a TAG UTG raiser who then called a reraise this is a very dry flop in terms of draws. He almost never has a fd or straight draw here. In absolute terms it isnt a dry board but against his range of hands it is. If we are ahead he at most probably has 2 outs. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Against a TAG UTG raiser who then called a reraise this is a very dry flop in terms of draws. He almost never has a fd or straight draw here. In absolute terms it isnt a dry board but against his range of hands it is. If we are ahead he at most probably has 2 outs.In terms of his range, you're correct. I'm just trying to beat into people's heads that this isn't a dry board.Also, there's not much to discuss here other than the speed with which we Hellmuth our chips into the pot. Link to post Share on other sites
rdtedm 0 Posted January 3, 2008 Author Share Posted January 3, 2008 I simply posted this hand because what can we put villain on that I beat? I didn't think he'd play AJ/AQ this way, so I had his range on A9, AK, KK, AA, or 99, or a complete bluff. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 I simply posted this hand because what can we put villain on that I beat? I didn't think he'd play AJ/AQ this way, so I had his range on A9, AK, KK, AA, or 99, or a complete bluff.JT hearts ... some shit like that. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 I simply posted this hand because what can we put villain on that I beat? I didn't think he'd play AJ/AQ this way, so I had his range on A9, AK, KK, AA, or 99, or a complete bluff.If you're gonna give him A9, you might as well give him A4 too.1 combo of AA1 combo of KK3 combos of 99--------------------------4 combos of AK--------------------------6 combos of A96 combos of A4Any bluffs/semibluffs/overplayed AQ/AJ type handsEasy shove. Seriously. If you're folding here, or even considering it, well, it's really bad. Link to post Share on other sites
NoBBiR 0 Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 AK9 with a flush draw is NOT a dry board. Not even close.This is not a tricky spot. You have top 2 pair, which is pretty much the nuts on this board. If he's got 99, too bad for you because all of your chips are going into the middle.I would literally have to be dead not to shove this hand on the turn. Like, someone shot me execution style at the table and yet for some reason the other players are still waiting for me to act.Hope the idiot roles over A9, AQ, 9hXh, JhTh, whatever. I don't even care if you think all you can put him on is a set of 9's, you're losing all of your money just based on the fact that he might occasionally bluff here. Link to post Share on other sites
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